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[Malkeor]

You don't go create multiple topics, literally about the same thing, especially if you're already partaking in multiple discussions about it already!
It's an admins job to keep the forum clean and less cluttered for more room about other topics, and to minimize topics into the same thread.


Anyway on topic...the credit glitch. Yeah, they are looking into the problem.

People like making analogies on this forum so i'll have at it. For everyone who somehow defends the use of this because it's "in the game!"
Just because you can do something, because it presents the possibility that you can but you really shouldn't, doesn't mean you should....oh the analogy? Use your imagination, there are tons of scenarios. I mean this is basic law.

Modifié par Malkeor, 05 mai 2012 - 05:28 .

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Malkeor wrote...

You don't go create multiple topics, literally about the same thing, especially if you're already partaking in multiple discussions about it already!
It's an admins job to keep the forum clean and less cluttered for more room about other topics, and to minimize topics into the same thread.


Anyway on topic...the credit glitch. Yeah, they are looking into the problem.

People like making analogies on this forum so i'll have at it. For everyone who somehow defends the use of this because it's "in the game!"
Just because you can do something, because it presents the possibility that you can but you really shouldn't, doesn't mean you should....oh the analogy? Use your imagination, there are tons of scenarios. I mean this is basic law.

There are currently zero petitions on the forum to change fix this glitch.  MANY topics about the glitch and all that surrounds it, but no petitions.  So NO, it IS NOT A REPEAT POST.  Silly to classify it as such only to dismiss it.  

[Malkeor]

The wide discontent for it has already been established.

They are already acknowledging and fixing the problem. You don't need another thread about a petition to get it fixed.

[joshynoob]

Malkeor wrote...

The wide discontent for it has already been established.

They are already acknowledging and fixing the problem. You don't need another thread about a petition to get it fixed.

Malekor, we dont need anyone else joining a topic to say its irrelevent, contribute to the topic or dont post...

[exelius_]

Sacrificial Bias wrote...

Da hell? Who the hell plays Gold, even FBWGG with anything less than level 20? The only POSSIBLE merit to gaining xp would be if Bioware awarded credits for promoting. And I think they should, as grinding a character from 1 to 20 is quite a chore.

You can honestly start with FBWGG at lv 5 really easily if you use equipment and have a level X plasma shotgun or a black widow. You can even do it with an AA at lv 1; just team with a Justicar and spam throw at her reaves.

[NotABot19]

joshynoob wrote...

Malkeor wrote...

The wide discontent for it has already been established.

They are already acknowledging and fixing the problem. You don't need another thread about a petition to get it fixed.

Malekor, we dont need anyone else joining a topic to say its irrelevent, contribute to the topic or dont post...

Yet isn't your post irrelevant with respect to the topic? Fairly hypocritical of you to tell someone else to contribute to the topic or don't post, and then you post something which contributes nothing to the topic.

And to the OP, if you took a poll of all the ME3 players and asked them what they cared about more, their N7 rating or their weapon/character unlocks, I guarantee you the vast majority of them will answer their weapon/character unlocks. Regardless of the math you have done comparing the XP gains, the reason why this exploit is considered cheating by the vast majority of the community (and Bioware employees) is because it allows players to gain credits more quickly than intended by the developers.

Extra credits means more chances for weapon/character unlocks, and it's fairly obvious that a lot of enjoyment in this game comes from the prestige of having rare weapon/character unlocks. It's very justifiable to be angry and upset over the fact that other players can have easier access to unlocks by exploiting the game in a way that the developers didn't intend. There's no way to justify the credit glitch, given that this is a online multiplayer game which is created and maintained by Bioware/EA, their word is final, and if they call the exploit cheating then it is.

[GGW KillerTiger]

 Original poster you need to go back to grad school if you get 2 gold matches an hour and about 70k credits ... how does this equal 300k - 400k? .... It would be 140k an hour ......

70000 x 2 = 300000 now? My math teachers were really bad then. 

Modifié par GGW KillerTiger, 05 mai 2012 - 06:01 .

[Malkeor]

Even that post had more relevance to your post joshynoob. If it makes you feel better I did take the discussion to PM.

But the glitch itself is just wearing out the game even further in my opinion. It also kind of ruins the fun at earning your weapons fairly by playing a complete match.
I'm kind of glad it's getting fixed. No matter how slight the advantage, it shouldn't be allowed.

[NotABot19]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

 Original poster you need to go back to grad school if you get 2 gold matches an hour and about 70k credits ... how does this equal 300k - 400k? .... It would be 140k an hour ......

70000 x 2 = 300000 now? My math teachers were really bad then. 

Your math teachers were fine but apparently your English teachers weren't very good.

Quote from OP:
"For the sake of time, we will say that a gold match takes about half
hour, including lobby and load time. That's 2 per hour. 300-400k xp and
75k credits per round.
That's about 150,000 credits per hour and about 700kxp. "

Let's see, 30 minutes per gold match so 2 per hour. Seems right.
75k credits per round, so 150k credits per hour. Where's the problem?
Learn to read please.

[indyracing]

OP is using Star Child logic to make a point no one really cares about.

Like nearly everyone else, I play multiplayer for fun, but also to buy some packs.  The items *I* want from packs are specific gold weapons, and also consumables.  XP cards are NOT what I'm after - though I'd love a Geth Infiltrator or Asari Justicar card - but really only ONE of each.

500k credits an hour?  Very intersted in that (not that I actually know how this "glitch" works at this point).

100 billion xp per hour?  Don't care.  I've played the single player, had over 7k war assets, and haven't promoted a MP class in a week, and don't plan to again.  Even the classes I don't play (Vanguard and Infiltrator) are levels 15 and up.

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

 Original poster you need to go back to grad school if you get 2 gold matches an hour and about 70k credits ... how does this equal 300k - 400k? .... It would be 140k an hour ......

70000 x 2 = 300000 now? My math teachers were really bad then. 

LOL at your poor reading comprehension.  Read again young one.

[Mozts]

I voted five stars. This is the funniest threat, my reaction was:
http://www.youtube.c...IiVgTb8LTY#t=4s

But yeah, its full of bull****.

[AldarionnEB]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

AldarionnEB wrote...

@ Random - EA/BioWare views this as cheating because while the only thing that is rated is XP, the only thing that is MONETIZED in the game is credits. People can spend real money in place of credits, which means a way to get fast, easy credits has a DIRECT impact on the amount of MONEY that can be made from the system by EA/BioWare. That is, in their eyes, exploitative play.

There can be no further argument to this point. EA/BioWare says it is an exploit, and that using it is cheating. Done.

Except they are not losing any profit as a direct impact.

exactly.  the only guaranteed profit is what the consumer has already spent to buy the game.  Profit is not guaranteed simply because you put the mechanism in place.

Guaranteed profit doesn't matter. Clearly you don't understand what my point is.

EA put in place a system by which players can spend less time grinding credits and buy packs with actual money.

If there is even one person who looks at that system and says "that would be worth my money" and buys packs for cash instead of credits, then EA has made a profit. It cost them almost nothing to make that an option, and any money they make from it goes 100% to the bottom line.

Similarly, if there is even one person that would pay money for packs, who instead sees an in-game means to make all the credits he needs quickly and easily, and decides it's better to use that exploit than give EA their money, then EA has lost a potential sale.

Pure and simple, the credit glitch de-values a product that EA sells. It doesn't matter if that isn't guaranteed profit. It's potential profit, and anything that devalues it is something EA would want to prevent.

They said it's cheating. You agreed to the Terms of Service when you played the game, and this is a violation of those terms. There is no more need to discuss this, because legally speaking it is 100% cut and dried. EA has every right to ban anyone that uses something they deem an exploit, and this fits that criteria.

[Azrever XVII]

Cool story bro

[AldarionnEB]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Here's the real math behind the credit glitchers.

0 = IQ

Glitching for profit in an EA game is about the dumbest thing one can do. Especially when it regards literally HUNDREDS of videos about it on YouTube and even more complaints to BioWare/EA. When a glitch gets that much attention you ought to know that bans are incoming as well as a fix/patch for said glitch.

That's the cold hard math. 0

As in;

It takes 0 skill to earn those credits.
It takes 0 IQ for you to think you will get away with it.
It takes 0 amounts of bellyaching and whining about bans once you do get caught for them to immediately dismiss you.
There are 0 valid arguments you cheaters can make that make it not cheating.
We have 0 patience for your bull****.

Cold. Hard. Math.

Quoted for truth.

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

AldarionnEB wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Here's the real math behind the credit glitchers.

0 = IQ

Glitching for profit in an EA game is about the dumbest thing one can do. Especially when it regards literally HUNDREDS of videos about it on YouTube and even more complaints to BioWare/EA. When a glitch gets that much attention you ought to know that bans are incoming as well as a fix/patch for said glitch.

That's the cold hard math. 0

As in;

It takes 0 skill to earn those credits.
It takes 0 IQ for you to think you will get away with it.
It takes 0 amounts of bellyaching and whining about bans once you do get caught for them to immediately dismiss you.
There are 0 valid arguments you cheaters can make that make it not cheating.
We have 0 patience for your bull****.

Cold. Hard. Math.

Quoted for truth.

They guy who has been credit glitching since day 1 that quits playing yesterday or today IS GETTING AWAY WITH IT.  People are getting away with it and they will continue to do so until it is fixed.  Ban threats will not stop people as most don't READ THE FORUMS.   

[Repojam]

I like how he does the "i am for fixing this exploit!" in an extremely defensive and incindiary fashion in the other thread while he is trying to justify credit exploiting in this one. It honestly doesn't matter who thinks what about it. We can all agree with you 100% and if they decide to enforce it, you still get banned.

Hopefully they either see the logic of your argument or don't take any sort of punishment against you, but you're justifying something they see as cheating. Best of luck.

Modifié par Repojam, 05 mai 2012 - 06:44 .

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Repojam wrote...

I like how he does the "i am for fixing this exploit!" in an extremely defensive and incindiary fashion in the other thread while he is trying to justify credit exploiting in this one. It honestly doesn't matter who thinks what about it. We can all agree with you 100% and if they decide to enforce it, you still get banned.

Hopefully they either see the logic of your argument or don't take any sort of punishment against you, but you're justifying something they see as cheating. Best of luck.

I don't cheat so I'm not worried.  I'm sure by now my account has been audited and passed with flying colors.  As far as getting banned from a forum, don't be ridiculous.  It says clearly right in my post that I do NOT ENCOURAGE THIS ACTION.   Read.

[OblivionDawn]

LOL, this thread is still going on.

And, as I predicted, it is now a joke thread.

[InfamousResult]

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[ZombieGambit]

People aren't complaining about XP, they're crying because of the amount of credits earned, but the whole argument seems like, "Derp derp that guy just jaywalked and I'm here waiting at the crosswalk. I'm going to get mad and call the cops."

It's an exploit, sure, but it in no way effects you or your enjoyment of the game. If you want to play legitimately all the more power to you, but why report those players that feel like cheating the flawed system? Is it because you're jealous?

[InfamousResult]

ZombieGambit wrote...

Is it because you're jealous?

[AldarionnEB]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

They guy who has been credit glitching since day 1 that quits playing yesterday or today IS GETTING AWAY WITH IT.  People are getting away with it and they will continue to do so until it is fixed.  Ban threats will not stop people as most don't READ THE FORUMS.   

Just because someone CAN get away with it does not mean they SHOULD get away with it. EA announced that it is cheating to use this glitch, and that they are investigating offenders. Ignorance of the law is not a defense for breaking it (though it might have an impact on punishment), so the fact that someone doesn't read the forums before performing an action that manipulates an obvious glitch is irrelevant to whether or not they should be punished.

My point is, it's cheating. If you cheat, expect to be punished. If you get away with it, then fine, but you take that risk the moment you perform the glitch and you have NO RIGHT to complain if they take disciplenary action. You also have NO RIGHT to tell others that what you are doing is justified because it is AGAINST THE EULA.

This is the last post I will make in any of these threads. If you use this glitch, you are cheating, and there is not one single valid argument that can change that fact. End of discussion.