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Mass Effect 3 moments that fell flat on their face (Please don't bring up the ending)


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darthoptimus003

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The whole game NOW damnit

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Everything mentioned in the above posts. And

Shepards renegade speech final mission, it was just embarassing I should have just picked the no speech option. Hacketts speech on the normandy, ditto.

Mars, the whole unshielded robot scene after the shuttle crash.

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The "Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve"
I was just like, WTF?


Rofl.  

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I'm not the nit-picky type over love interest stuff, but every conversation that leads to your relationship progressing further with Liara felt very rigid.  Their outer, flirtatious interactions were well-written enough, but the points where you make the choice to go further were somewhat forced and hollow.

Paraphrase: "It's been a long time, Shepard -- are you still interested?" and "Oh, well it's a good thing I feel that way too".

<_<

Modifié par dreamgazer, 05 mai 2012 - 04:49 .


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Kyle Dei

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Intro - Honestly, I played the demo and was hoping they'd missed a bit out, but nope. I wanted a trial! A recap! Maybe handing the Normandy over? Some Admiral comes out to shake Sheps' hand but Two marines come out and cuff them and cart them off. So much potential >.>

Mars - I mean, really? "We've had it for 30 years and just found these super duper plans." Yeah ok, I can understand there's a load of information in those archives but the super plans? Here are my thoughts "Oh here we go... uber plans, wooo yay /sarcasm. Should I go into more detail? Ok. Why are the plans on Mars when Vendetta the VI is on Thessia?
And the VS getting their head banged in? Shep, you have a gun. Don't just watch!

Palaven - Whoohoo, we get to go to... ah just no. A moon? Aw come on!

There's more, but I'm actually getting a bit depressed here.

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the dreams/kid: why is it that my avatar is dreaming? shep is meant to be me right? so why am i dreaming about this kid? why do i give a rats ass after seeing WAAAAAAY worse or the last two games let alone what my have come before that? it was just forced and poor writing that put up a wall between me and shep, that's not my hep there that's someone ells is all a felt.

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iorveth1271 wrote...

The intro, I really expected Shepard to face a hearing or trial. Other than that, it wasn't all bad, I guess, but that might have been my character since he was Earthborn anyways.

Sidequests, they really bored me most of the time. I liked the ME2 character cameos on the Citadel, but all the Eavesdropping and fetching and then the Journal... tsk tsk tsk.

Tali's face. Bioware, I am disappoint. If you want your games to be art, at least act like you're serious about it.

Allers' voice acting. Sorry to be so harsh, but it just sucked. I hope Bioware learns from it and keeps to trained, skilled VA's in the future.

The Rachni, I actually looked forward to them playing a role... only to be utterly disappointed. Why this had to be, I will never understand. No justification for this, seriously.

The lack of 3 Dialogue options. One of the major signs that this game was rushed.

The Crucible. No matter how many War assets you gather, it gets finished. No matter how much you suck through the course of the game, it just doesn't matter. Just seriously bad.

Anderson being born in London and Shepard being surprised/shocked TWICE. Seriously, it's a small flaw, you might think, but a careful, cautious writing team would not have made such a blatant mistake. Either they just really fell asleep and forgot that they already mentioned that small fact, or the writing team was not the same. I dunno which is worse.

The Earth-bias in ME3. No matter your Shepard's background, he gets railroaded into caring his ass off about Earth above all other things. I can see it with an Earthborn, but a Spacer Shep who wants to save everyone, not just humans? Seriously? I cared more about how things went on Sur'Kesh or Irune than about Earth.

London. It was rushed, no matter how you put it. Worst rushing I ever saw. I expected it to take 3-4 hours to get through it, it took little over an hour. Sorry, but that's unacceptable.

The Cerberus Coup. I liked the general setting, lots of action and pew pew, but what exactly was its purpose?



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a few character things can be picked at. but my biggest problem was that the Rachni still had a leader even if u killed the Queen (which in my original play through I didn't) I just thought the Rachni should of been created by some tank if you killed her.

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The awkward silences.

There are times where the camera is just looking at Shepard or someone just staring in a blank/generic/basic face-pose.

There are times where it seems to me that someone should really be saying/yelling/screaming something and nobody's saying anything during the action sequence.



The "extra" Mass Effect.

I enjoyed the minigames: the drunk rhino, the tissue paper tank, decrypting, bypassing, hacking, car-chasing and even a bit of the scanning. They were filler, sure. But I enjoyed them.

This time, we got the main game with the occasional turret minigame. You don't even get a reward like a temporary varren pet for the turret minigames.



(I would mention Steeeeeve [if you don't have Vega with you] and the Hammer massacre with Krogans support no matter what, but I consider those to be part of the ending.)

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 05 mai 2012 - 05:07 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

I'm not the nit-picky type over love interest stuff, but every conversation that leads to your relationship progressing further with Liara felt very rigid.  Their outer, flirtatious interactions were well-written enough, but the points where you make the choice to go further were somewhat forced and hollow.

Paraphrase: "It's been a long time, Shepard -- are you still interested?" and "Oh, well it's a good thing I feel that way too".

<_<


Same if you don't have an LI in ME3 .
In one of my FemShep runs, Liara asked Shepard to meet her on the Citadel (post Citadel Attack).
Liara says it's nice to be able spend time together as friends.
If Shepard were to trigger the love interest - saying she'd like to be more than friends (which I did)
Liara will appear all flustered and 'hadn't thought about it' etc. but does end that scene with saying 'yes' and then kisses Shepard with a fade out.

That was quite forced reponse as Shepard had given NO indication to Liara that she liked her 'that' way.

I must say that I did prefer the initial meeting on Mars - and the 'I missed you Liara'  if you already had her as a LI in prior games. and later on when Liara sits on your lap - nice touch.

But then in stark contrast there was no physical emotion from Shepard when Liara is sitting on the bed with tears streaming down her face. after her ordeal on Thessia and subsequent run in with Javik.
I would have hoped for Shepard to take Liara and hold her close and just comfort her -- saying sweet nothings and what have you.

But it wasn't meant to be I guess :(

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dreamgazer wrote...

I'm not the nit-picky type over love interest stuff, but every conversation that leads to your relationship progressing further with Liara felt very rigid.  Their outer, flirtatious interactions were well-written enough, but the points where you make the choice to go further were somewhat forced and hollow.

Paraphrase: "It's been a long time, Shepard -- are you still interested?" and "Oh, well it's a good thing I feel that way too".

<_<


Yup, I love the romance but these points have always annoyed me.

Not to mention being friendzoned after being loyal to her for 2 games, telling her I'm interested and doing LotSB!! Argh!

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Liara stating they found plans in the prothean archives on mars for a device that could defeat the reapers. LAME!!!

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Threads like this make me realize what a joke this entire game was.

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Anderson: Harbinger is coming!
Me: About goddamn time. Now to shut him up once and for all!
Harbinger: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! *flys away*
Me: WTF?!

The whole Cerberus arc as well. Rather than the great ideological conflict they seemed to be building up between Shepard and TIM, TIM just becomes Generic Evil Overlord #968 who does pointlessly idiotic things for the sake of enemy variety.

Modifié par grey_wind, 05 mai 2012 - 05:15 .


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If I forget about ending ? ... hmmm ... I really hated the whole beginning on Earth, I did not know who Vega is and the whole Shepard under lockdown stuff really seemed far fetched

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Grimwick wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I'm not the nit-picky type over love interest stuff, but every conversation that leads to your relationship progressing further with Liara felt very rigid.  Their outer, flirtatious interactions were well-written enough, but the points where you make the choice to go further were somewhat forced and hollow.

Paraphrase: "It's been a long time, Shepard -- are you still interested?" and "Oh, well it's a good thing I feel that way too".

<_<


Yup, I love the romance but these points have always annoyed me.

Not to mention being friendzoned after being loyal to her for 2 games, telling her I'm interested and doing LotSB!! Argh!


Yes, that is problematic too ... beyond the beginning (and yes, ending). And that kind of stuff comes only from laziness of game developers.

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The "Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve"
I was just like, WTF?


i was ok with "steeeeeeeeeeeeve" if you'd befriended him throughout the game. It was the subsequent "I'm ok"... "You sure".

and then his "anything for you" when my shep was straight just seemed weird.

as for falling on it's face, any moment where they spliced in basic character B in place of a dead squadmate. Legion dead/never activated fine we have a "geth AI' that looks EXACTLY like Legion and sounds just like him, has the same dialog (pretty much). Tali dead, no problem different Admiral will just step in and have basically the exact same dialog. Mordin dead, no problem, could have been someone else they wouldn't have gotten it wrong.

Pretty much the only one of those they got right was Wreave instead of Wrex. Some similar dialog but Wreaves approach is very very different from Wrex.

Modifié par Bantz, 05 mai 2012 - 05:27 .


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Jinx1720 wrote...

Liara stating they found plans in the prothean archives on mars for a device that could defeat the reapers. LAME!!!


but remember the writers said we wont be given a giant reaper off switch.


and to the guy that said this thread makes him realize what a joke the game was. I don't think it was a joke I just think threads like this point out how, while the game was incredibly fun and emotionally gripping at points, there was SOO much wasted potential.

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Velocithon wrote...

The dream sequences. Beginning of the game. Thessia. The coup. The Rachni.


I would also add any scene involving Kai Leng.

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Kai Leng 'fight' on Thessia. Should have just been a cutscene.

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So between ME2 and ME3 Shepard spent the whole time listlessly staring out of a window instead of preparing Earth and the galaxy for the imminent Reaper attack. Though many of the sidestories and subplots were pretty good the main storyline was a mess, the Shepard we'd gotten to know and love over the previous games seemed to have been replaced by this moping and apathetic replicant. The jarring shifts in tone and weird lack of continuity, were the writers not speaking to each other?

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the delatrass not ducking, i mean come on just get down and i'll blow lengs head off. i blame her for thanes death.
every scene with leng in it, on a side note i would like to know where he got his raiden costume from.
the lame excuses for squadmates not joining.
oh and vega.

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

The whole game NOW damnit


Pretty much, having read through this entire thread and agreeing with pretty much everything so far. :lol:

Modifié par Sohlito, 05 mai 2012 - 06:19 .


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The Intro - There really should've been more. Shep could've simply been shown sitting on the bed or a chair while flashback sequences or some audio flashbacks detailed his/her arrest, destruction of the Bahak system and subsequent trial.  

The Crucible
- Too convenient and too early. Having Hackett tell Quaid Shepard "Get yourself to Mars" was so... blah. While the mission itself was good, I think the cat was let out of the bag way, way too soon. The VS getting smashed was fine, grabbing Liara there was fine but it really would've been better if only some clues were uncovered during the Mars run.

Further evidence or the whereabouts of critical information about the Crucible would be uncovered by T'soni onboard the Normandy and then Shep would embark on several quests to find these pieces/clues. There could've been the opportunity to visit Junthor, Klencory and Armeni in order gather information, clues and evidence. Javik could've been more than a spear-chucking space douche and really had some input with these quests that never happened. The story of the Crucible should've also been the story of the Reapers.

Kai Leng -  Should've been cutscenes until the boss fight. While the hand-to-hand fight with Thane was cool, nothing but really thin plot armour was keeping him alive. Seriousy, the guy was a b!tch and it's too bad my Vanguard figured how to use his omniblade at the moment where he kills Leng as opposed to ramming a biotic fist through his face.

Udina/Coup - Why is he councillor again? Remember that time I picked Anderson? Yeah, I know what you did in the novels and comics but uh, don't let those pick up the slack for the writing when it comes to what you guys at Bioware do... MAKE VIDEOGAMES.

Cerberus sleeper agents and operatives simply infiltrating and taking over C-Sec would've been more plausible but perhaps too videogamey in comparision with the all out invasion of the Citadel. 

And as for the continued mistrust from the VS, maybe some more in game events/evidence that made Shepard look bad would've made this mistrust feel more justified. It was hard not to shoot the VS just out of pure frustration and annoyance at this point.

 

Modifié par bennyjammin79, 05 mai 2012 - 07:26 .


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The hoodie kid. Everything about that little bastard falls flat.

Kai Leng is so awesomely terrible, but since he was supposed to be badass, he falls very flat.

Palaven's stupid moon.

90% of Thessia.