MidnightRaith wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
1. The ending we have right now made a bigger backlash that holding and ending....
2. The fact they are making EC.
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Your not really agients IT...Your ageinst BW doing addon dlc endings...A thing other companies have done before with little back lash. I understand you point but it's clearthe back lash already happened. How can it get worse then a horde of your fans theating to not buy your product over the ending?
You missed the part where I said that IT is completely different than a retcon or "clarification." EC falls under "clarification."
But first:
1. Yes, we have a backlash, however in its present state, ME3 does not spell the end for Bioware and it is not setting the precedent of End Game DLC. The only people threatening to not by future Bioware products are Mass Effect fans. However, Mass effect fans do not make up the entirety of the Dragon Age fans, or the TOR fans, or the Warhammer fans or fans for furture IPs. Mass Effect fans are angry right now and only Mass Effect fans. Yes, these fanbases intertwine. I myself am a fan of DA, ME and TOR. However that does not mean I'm willing to abandon TOR or DA just because ME3 sucked. However, if Bioware does IT, then my trust in them will effectively be shattered. I'd drop them in a second and I imagine that many people feel the same way.
2. You apparently don't understand what EC is designed to do. I do not think that BW is planning to do IT at all, considering that they themselves have stated that EC is going to provide "clarification" and "closure." IT would introduce entirely new information to the game. Your theory may be based on data present in the game itself, but you've put it together in a way that does not build upon what Bioware gave us. The "clarification" part is going to merely add on to what we've already been shown. I.E. Joker's abandonment. Things like that. Not, Shepard wakes up all of a sudden in London and somehow finishes the fight in someway. Perhaps with the Crucible or maybe through actual warfare. Another problem I have with IT. You guys don't have an actual ending. Just a protest of the one given, which is why it is a coping mechanism instead of a viable ending.
1. I imagine the opposite is also true. That without IT. there are bioware consumers who would lose faith in Bioware and refuse to buy future products. I certainly wouldn't preorder another bioware game.
2. We don't have the exact details of the EC, because bioware hasn't given them to us, and they have refused to do so. They've deliberately not told us what exactly is in the EC. Something that makes it clear that the indoctrination was taking place is clarification. Showing us/or allowing us how the reaper threat actually ends, and what happens next is closure. IT doesn't conflict with clarification and closure.
MidnightRaith wrote...
I am not against the EC as it stands. I'm against games not giving us an ending as advertised. ME3 ends. It has credits and we can speculate what happened, even if those speculations are awful and depressing. However, IT is a continuation of ME3. Not an ending. Apparently, you didn't read the paragraph I gave which already outlined how the backlash would get worse. What you see here is just ME fans. IT would be the boulder thrown into the BW Fanbase Lake that would ripple across all the IPs. It would get worse. Considering you didn't really address my points, I have to come to the conclusion that you're in denial about the whole thing. IT provides a way out, just like fanfiction for many other fans. The difference here is that you are actually suggesting that Bioware takes your idea and puts it in game. The idea that suggests that essentially the ending was a bad dream where you wake up to continue the fight. Do you not see how.... silly that sounds? What many IT supporters do not consider is how they would react if this is what Bioware gave us in the first place. How many of you would support it if so?
As I said, a coping mechanism that has exploded to the level of obsession. Following this, I'm not going to try to further dissuade you from believing in IT. It's supporters are too into it.....
ME1 had ending credits, as did ME2. The story still carried on in playable DLC and sequels. Why can't ME3 do the same? YOU believe the backlash would be worse, and i disagree. All I want is a story that's good and makes sense. With IT being confirmed, I would probably have that. Yes, some will hate it, but some will love it. What basis do you have for saying that one of those categories is certainly going to be greater than the other?
I also, at first suspected it was just wishful thinking, but after looking at the content in ME3 and the games before it, and the comics, i'm convinced that Bioware were planning indoctrination. Yes, I have different opinions on some aspects (I think the Earthchild was real, and that that image was used later on to explolit Shepard's emotional vulnerabilities), but to me it seems as if they've been hinting quite strongly at Shepard becoming indoctrinated.
As for my reaction, had IT and it's predicted DLC been contained within the version of ME3 i downloaded from Origin? As i said, i care about the story primarily. I would have loved it provided what came after the indoctrination reveal made sense.