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[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

Don't get ahead of yourself and assume I belong to a certain category. I liked and believed IT at first. But I played the game again and found some inconsistencies.

I criticise the parts of IT that I don't believe in. These are that the last scene wasn't real, the child wasn't real and that Shepard is on London and not the Citadel.

[KevShep]

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

For those who believe it to be bad writing, wouldn't the end product actually be the proof of it?

No. if they were working on a way to make shepard indoctrinated at the end part throughout the development time why then did we see the leaked scriped as it is now in ME3 with not much change? And where was the parts of the scriped talking about shepard being indoctrinated if they said that they were working on a way to do that?

What Iam saying is, They may have known that they were not going to make the dead line and needed a way to finish it without the ending being forgetable (which Casey Hudson said they were aiming for). They may have planned for this since October or November (or sooner than that). 

[KevShep]

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

Don't get ahead of yourself and assume I belong to a certain category. I liked and believed IT at first. But I played the game again and found some inconsistencies.

I criticise the parts of IT that I don't believe in. These are that the last scene wasn't real, the child wasn't real and that Shepard is on London and not the Citadel.

 Do you kown that you can hear Shepards voice inside the catalysts voice?....Its shepard that is the one playing this out in his head by as the catalyst himself/herself through reaper "suggestive" control. 

Also you can hear the voices of anderson and TIM's voice as an odd eco...like a dream eco not to mention that shepard and the catalyst  can hear there voices as the same odd eco. Note...In shepard other dreams we hear our squadmates with the same odd eco.

[jijeebo]

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

For those who believe it to be bad writing, wouldn't the end product actually be the proof of it?

No. if they were working on a way to make shepard indoctrinated at the end part throughout the development time why then did we see the leaked scriped as it is now in ME3 with not much change? And where was the parts of the scriped talking about shepard being indoctrinated if they said that they were working on a way to do that?

What Iam saying is, They may have known that they were not going to make the dead line and needed a way to finish it without the ending being forgetable (which Casey Hudson said they were aiming for). They may have planned for this since October or November (or sooner than that). 

EC is the only piece of DLC that could possibly give IT any merit...  And they've said that it wasn't planned and is separate from their pre-existing plans to expand the ME universe.

[FatalX7.0]

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

[KevShep]

jijeebo wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

For those who believe it to be bad writing, wouldn't the end product actually be the proof of it?

No. if they were working on a way to make shepard indoctrinated at the end part throughout the development time why then did we see the leaked scriped as it is now in ME3 with not much change? And where was the parts of the scriped talking about shepard being indoctrinated if they said that they were working on a way to do that?

What Iam saying is, They may have known that they were not going to make the dead line and needed a way to finish it without the ending being forgetable (which Casey Hudson said they were aiming for). They may have planned for this since October or November (or sooner than that). 

EC is the only piece of DLC that could possibly give IT any merit...  And they've said that it wasn't planned and is separate from their pre-existing plans to expand the ME universe.

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

Don't get ahead of yourself and assume I belong to a certain category. I liked and believed IT at first. But I played the game again and found some inconsistencies.

I criticise the parts of IT that I don't believe in. These are that the last scene wasn't real, the child wasn't real and that Shepard is on London and not the Citadel.

 Do you kown that you can hear Shepards voice inside the catalysts voice?....Its shepard that is the one playing this out in his head by as the catalyst himself/herself through reaper "suggestive" control. 

Also you can hear the voices of anderson and TIM's voice as an odd eco...like a dream eco not to mention that shepard and the catalyst  can hear there voices as the same odd eco. Note...In shepard other dreams we hear our squadmates with the same odd eco.

Yes I do. In fact I made a video confirming it.



As for Anderson and TIM's voice, that's new to me.

[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

That's just pure speculation.

[KevShep]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

[jijeebo]

KevShep wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

For those who believe it to be bad writing, wouldn't the end product actually be the proof of it?

No. if they were working on a way to make shepard indoctrinated at the end part throughout the development time why then did we see the leaked scriped as it is now in ME3 with not much change? And where was the parts of the scriped talking about shepard being indoctrinated if they said that they were working on a way to do that?

What Iam saying is, They may have known that they were not going to make the dead line and needed a way to finish it without the ending being forgetable (which Casey Hudson said they were aiming for). They may have planned for this since October or November (or sooner than that). 

EC is the only piece of DLC that could possibly give IT any merit...  And they've said that it wasn't planned and is separate from their pre-existing plans to expand the ME universe.

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

So whilst a massive chunk of their fanbase is FUMING because they'd been lied to regarding the endings and all the choices mattering... Bioware is then going to lie to them AGAIN, all to keep IT a secret?

If they didn't want to be obvious they wouldn't mention it at all.

[KevShep]

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

That's just pure speculation.

"Speculations from everyone"  Thats what Bioware wanted.

[FatalX7.0]

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

Because you're an idiot who continually tries to shove your imagination down the throats of others and will never see the views of other people.


You think you know the inner workings of Bioware and their entire plan, based on what? Based on how you see the game? Go get a job at Bioware and work on Mass Effect and then shove your crap in people's faces.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 07 mai 2012 - 01:23 .

[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

Don't get ahead of yourself and assume I belong to a certain category. I liked and believed IT at first. But I played the game again and found some inconsistencies.

I criticise the parts of IT that I don't believe in. These are that the last scene wasn't real, the child wasn't real and that Shepard is on London and not the Citadel.

 Do you kown that you can hear Shepards voice inside the catalysts voice?....Its shepard that is the one playing this out in his head by as the catalyst himself/herself through reaper "suggestive" control. 

Also you can hear the voices of anderson and TIM's voice as an odd eco...like a dream eco not to mention that shepard and the catalyst  can hear there voices as the same odd eco. Note...In shepard other dreams we hear our squadmates with the same odd eco.

Also about the voices thing. If your character is BroShep, how in the world would you know what FemShep even sounds like? She doesn't exist.

Did you know that Shepard's voice actor is the same as the Vorcha?

[KevShep]

jijeebo wrote...

KevShep wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

For those who believe it to be bad writing, wouldn't the end product actually be the proof of it?

No. if they were working on a way to make shepard indoctrinated at the end part throughout the development time why then did we see the leaked scriped as it is now in ME3 with not much change? And where was the parts of the scriped talking about shepard being indoctrinated if they said that they were working on a way to do that?

What Iam saying is, They may have known that they were not going to make the dead line and needed a way to finish it without the ending being forgetable (which Casey Hudson said they were aiming for). They may have planned for this since October or November (or sooner than that). 

EC is the only piece of DLC that could possibly give IT any merit...  And they've said that it wasn't planned and is separate from their pre-existing plans to expand the ME universe.

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

So whilst a massive chunk of their fanbase is FUMING because they'd been lied to regarding the endings and all the choices mattering... Bioware is then going to lie to them AGAIN, all to keep IT a secret?

If they didn't want to be obvious they wouldn't mention it at all.

Your saying it like the EC will suck so bad that it will make it worse...Bioware promised us that it will be worth everything, We will have to wait and see!

[KevShep]

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

Don't get ahead of yourself and assume I belong to a certain category. I liked and believed IT at first. But I played the game again and found some inconsistencies.

I criticise the parts of IT that I don't believe in. These are that the last scene wasn't real, the child wasn't real and that Shepard is on London and not the Citadel.

 Do you kown that you can hear Shepards voice inside the catalysts voice?....Its shepard that is the one playing this out in his head by as the catalyst himself/herself through reaper "suggestive" control. 

Also you can hear the voices of anderson and TIM's voice as an odd eco...like a dream eco not to mention that shepard and the catalyst  can hear there voices as the same odd eco. Note...In shepard other dreams we hear our squadmates with the same odd eco.

Also about the voices thing. If your character is BroShep, how in the world would you know what FemShep even sounds like? She doesn't exist.

Did you know that Shepard's voice actor is the same as the Vorcha?

This is a clear clue that something is up with the endings other wise they would not include femshep.

[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

That's just pure speculation.

"Speculations from everyone"  Thats what Bioware wanted.

On the game yes, but not on their development cycles. You're suggesting that Bioware is lying to us a covering up that they planned EC. This is a conspiracy.

[KevShep]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

Because you're an idiot who continually tries to shove your imagination down the throats of others and will never see the views of other people.


You think you know the inner workings of Bioware and their entire plan, based on what? Based on how you see the game? Go get a job at Bioware and work on Mass Effect and then shove your crap in people's faces.

Its my opinion..If you dont like it then leave or other wise dont give me YOUR crap attitude.

[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

Don't get ahead of yourself and assume I belong to a certain category. I liked and believed IT at first. But I played the game again and found some inconsistencies.

I criticise the parts of IT that I don't believe in. These are that the last scene wasn't real, the child wasn't real and that Shepard is on London and not the Citadel.

 Do you kown that you can hear Shepards voice inside the catalysts voice?....Its shepard that is the one playing this out in his head by as the catalyst himself/herself through reaper "suggestive" control. 

Also you can hear the voices of anderson and TIM's voice as an odd eco...like a dream eco not to mention that shepard and the catalyst  can hear there voices as the same odd eco. Note...In shepard other dreams we hear our squadmates with the same odd eco.

Also about the voices thing. If your character is BroShep, how in the world would you know what FemShep even sounds like? She doesn't exist.

Did you know that Shepard's voice actor is the same as the Vorcha?

This is a clear clue that something is up with the endings other wise they would not include femshep.

If you don't agree with my explanation then sure go ahead. Doesn't make IT true though.

[FatalX7.0]

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

Because you're an idiot who continually tries to shove your imagination down the throats of others and will never see the views of other people.


You think you know the inner workings of Bioware and their entire plan, based on what? Based on how you see the game? Go get a job at Bioware and work on Mass Effect and then shove your crap in people's faces.

Its my opinion..If you dont like it then leave or other wise dont give me YOUR crap attitude.

Your opinion? See, you continue to contradict yourself and go around in circles.

If it's your opinion, stop trying to pass it off as fact.

[jijeebo]

KevShep wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

KevShep wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

KevShep wrote...

CavScout wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
Mass Effect is not a thinking game. To make the player think in the last 10 minutes of the game is another sign of bad writting. You completely change the mechanic of your story and don't even prepare your audience for it.

This is not a twist unless it is revealed to be. If we saw Shepard wake up in all three version where two of them he wakes up with husk eyes and one without, then That would have made players think and would have tipped people off.

I cant believe that "some" people are saying that its bad writing (and actually believing that with no evidence) when all the evidence points to it and the same "some" of people criticise the pro-I.T. people for believing it with evidence. 

For those who believe it to be bad writing, wouldn't the end product actually be the proof of it?

No. if they were working on a way to make shepard indoctrinated at the end part throughout the development time why then did we see the leaked scriped as it is now in ME3 with not much change? And where was the parts of the scriped talking about shepard being indoctrinated if they said that they were working on a way to do that?

What Iam saying is, They may have known that they were not going to make the dead line and needed a way to finish it without the ending being forgetable (which Casey Hudson said they were aiming for). They may have planned for this since October or November (or sooner than that). 

EC is the only piece of DLC that could possibly give IT any merit...  And they've said that it wasn't planned and is separate from their pre-existing plans to expand the ME universe.

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

So whilst a massive chunk of their fanbase is FUMING because they'd been lied to regarding the endings and all the choices mattering... Bioware is then going to lie to them AGAIN, all to keep IT a secret?

If they didn't want to be obvious they wouldn't mention it at all.

Your saying it like the EC will suck so bad that it will make it worse...Bioware promised us that it will be worth everything, We will have to wait and see!

I'm actually hopeful that the EC is going to mend some of the damage caused by the endings... I'm just saying that the comments made about it back in March really should be treated with more merit than shaky evidence involving teleporting trees.

[KevShep]

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

That's just pure speculation.

"Speculations from everyone"  Thats what Bioware wanted.

On the game yes, but not on their development cycles. You're suggesting that Bioware is lying to us a covering up that they planned EC. This is a conspiracy.

If the I.T. is true then that is the only thing that they can do.

[KevShep]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

Because you're an idiot who continually tries to shove your imagination down the throats of others and will never see the views of other people.


You think you know the inner workings of Bioware and their entire plan, based on what? Based on how you see the game? Go get a job at Bioware and work on Mass Effect and then shove your crap in people's faces.

Its my opinion..If you dont like it then leave or other wise dont give me YOUR crap attitude.

Your opinion? See, you continue to contradict yourself and go around in circles.

If it's your opinion, stop trying to pass it off as fact.

Iam not proving my opinion for the last time.....Iam showing you facts and THEN Iam telling you my opinions on thoes facts.

[EpyonX3]

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

There not going to say that its planned becauae that would be odvious to the I.T..

That's just pure speculation.

"Speculations from everyone"  Thats what Bioware wanted.

On the game yes, but not on their development cycles. You're suggesting that Bioware is lying to us a covering up that they planned EC. This is a conspiracy.

If the I.T. is true then that is the only thing that they can do.

If IT was true, then they have to answer to the many fans and ther lawyers waiting to file a suit against them. ANd they have to explain how the reapers are eventually defeated, and explain why they didn't include this in the original product.

[FatalX7.0]

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

Because you're an idiot who continually tries to shove your imagination down the throats of others and will never see the views of other people.


You think you know the inner workings of Bioware and their entire plan, based on what? Based on how you see the game? Go get a job at Bioware and work on Mass Effect and then shove your crap in people's faces.

Its my opinion..If you dont like it then leave or other wise dont give me YOUR crap attitude.

Your opinion? See, you continue to contradict yourself and go around in circles.

If it's your opinion, stop trying to pass it off as fact.

Iam not proving my opinion for the last time.....Iam showing you facts and THEN Iam telling you my opinions on thoes facts.

Hopeless.

Completely hopeless.

[KevShep]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

God dammit, KevShep, shut the **** up and give it a ****in' rest! You annoying, deluded piece of crap.

*raegface*

Watch you mouth or get out! Your not being nice at all!

Because you're an idiot who continually tries to shove your imagination down the throats of others and will never see the views of other people.


You think you know the inner workings of Bioware and their entire plan, based on what? Based on how you see the game? Go get a job at Bioware and work on Mass Effect and then shove your crap in people's faces.

Its my opinion..If you dont like it then leave or other wise dont give me YOUR crap attitude.

Your opinion? See, you continue to contradict yourself and go around in circles.

If it's your opinion, stop trying to pass it off as fact.

Iam not proving my opinion for the last time.....Iam showing you facts and THEN Iam telling you my opinions on thoes facts.

Hopeless.

Completely hopeless.

What then are YOU denying about my facts? you have not made that clear at all and then you just troll me by saying that I dont make any sense!