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[vixvicco]

Where's the evidence for the IT? Nitpicking at every shadow, every little noise, every sentence and everything you can pull out of nothing. Where's the evidence for the ending being literal? You don't have to try so hard, do you?
I think you get your answers there.

[balance5050]

 This handily expesses I.T.



 

[Gorkan86]

Shepard have artificial eyes, so what?

Modifié par Gorkan86, 08 mai 2012 - 10:28 .

[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard have artificial eyes, so what?

They are red...Not Blue.

[dreman9999]

vixvicco wrote...

Where's the evidence for the IT? Nitpicking at every shadow, every little noise, every sentence and everything you can pull out of nothing. Where's the evidence for the ending being literal? You don't have to try so hard, do you?
I think you get your answers there.

http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

[dreman9999]

CavScout wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. But this is howit was setup from ME1...the foundation of the series. Thismeans that everything that has been stated for the nature of indoctrination has to be used to illustrate indoctriantion. If it's unditectible and subtle till it's too late, it has to be write and shown as unditectible and subtle if it's happentit Shepard/the player.

2.No there isno proof that the kid is real. I made topics on this...If there is proof ...Link it to me.

3.Shark attacks are diffent because Sharks don't have the nature of attacking humans.Also, it more of a case of swiming with sharks thaen going into the water. It's not going into the water gets me attack by Sharks that IT is simular to, is swiming with sharks. Basicly, Shepard going near reaper tech that indoctrinatesis swiming with sharks. That only that would be simular is jelly fish attacks during mating season. There still is the poin that Shepard is near alot of indoctination device from ME1 TO me3, which nature is to in doctrinate organics.

4. No, it deductive. It would only be circlar if my only point is that reaper and reaper tech indocrinated. I'm using multiple fact to caluculate a conclution.
Basicly,
years of being near reapers and reaper  tech that indoctrinates


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People who are indoctrinated have strang dreamd and hear whisper

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Shepard has weird dreams with whipers  after yearsof being near reaper....

Is a deductive progress..
http://en.wikipedia....ctive_reasoning 

It's true Shep has been near no and off reaper tech that indoctinate for years.
It's true people who are indoctrinated havestrang dreams and hear whispers.
And It's true Shepard , after years of being near reaper tech that inctrinates, has weird dream with whispers.

That pretty much point to that their is a chance of indoctrination.

LOL sharks don't attack humans... LOL...

Anyways:
1)I love how you set it up that there will be no proof/evidence of indoctrination because you don't know it's happening. Nothing like saying "A is happening but you can't see A happening because you can't know A is happening until A has happened!"

2)Dreams are dreams. There is proof the kid is real. Shep sees him, Shep talks to him, Shep sees him die.

3)What's your point? Surfers spend alot of time in the water. Sharks attacks happen in the water. Surfing alot doens't mean you've been attack by sharks.

4)It's not deduction. It's supposition.

Sharks don't natually attack human. Look it up.
1. I'm just using thefact given from the lore. The lore stated their no sign till it's too late. IT is just bring the point that it soon will be that point but not yet.

2. What proof? Their is no proof the kid is real. Post it, please.

3. If you bring yourself  to be exposed into a danger or contague area, their chances a negative effect will happen. I'm also just bring up the point that has a lot of flaws. By your logic, swiming in a pool will  mean I would get eatten by Sharks or swim in the part of theocean with no sharks will indanger me of getting eat by sharks. It not the same case of you "water" referance being that bring in water doen't mean I'm putting my self in danger. I wouldn't get eaten by sharks by bathing would I? Point being, Everytime Shepard is near a reaper device...He puts himself indanger of being indoctrination. My point is that it's acase of swimingwith sharks becasue being in indoctrination wave is alway dangerous, while being in water, based on the chance of being eaten by sharks by being in it , is not. We arenot using that leep of logic here...You are.
4. It's deductive because is calcualitive of sound facts.

[Gorkan86]

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard have artificial eyes, so what?

They are red...Not Blue.

And Red eyes means?  
Eye color affects what?

[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard have artificial eyes, so what?

They are red...Not Blue.

And Red eyes means?  
Eye color affects what?

 
 
 
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I the eye and the technical shape is a sign of indoctrination....

[Gorkan86]

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Gorkan86 wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard have artificial eyes, so what?[/quote]They are red...Not Blue.
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And Red eyes means?  
Eye color affects what?

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I the eye and the technical shape is a sign of indoctrination....
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So?


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And Red eyes means?  
Eye color affects what?

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[DarkSeraphym]

dreman9999 wrote...
I the eye and the technical shape is a sign of indoctrination....

All that I see from those pictures is evidence that synthetics in the Mass Effect universe tend to have blue eyes. The Geth also have a similar bluish-white color to their eyes as the Cannibals and the Marauders. Of course, we know that Shepard is partially synthetic from the Lazarus Project as the Catalyst comes out and openly says that much (the extent of that doesn't appear to be known entirely). We also know that all husks are partially synthetic to varying degrees based upon the level of indoctrination. I'm not so much seeing evidence from those photos, in connection with the above one of Shepard in the Synthesis and Control ending, of indoctrination as I am just seeing confirmation that Shepard has synthetic parts in his body, which we already know. Seems to me like it is the "all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares" problem where "all husks are synethic, but not all synthetics are husks."

I'm not saying that it is not a possibility from these photos that Shepard is indoctrinated, only saying that I think the most logical conclusion that can be drawn from them, in collaboration with the lore, is that Shepard indeed has some level of synthetic platforms within his/her body and that was something we already knew. I think that evidence would be far more conclusive had we been dealing with someone like Ashley Williams or Admiral Hackett where that level of "synthesization" would not correspond with what we know from the lore.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 08 mai 2012 - 11:33 .

[Gorkan86]

And EDI have the same eyes, only not glowing.

[dreman9999]

[quote]Gorkan86 wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Gorkan86 wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard have artificial eyes, so what?[/quote]They are red...Not Blue.
[/quote]

And Red eyes means?  
Eye color affects what?

[/quote]
I the eye and the technical shape is a sign of indoctrination....
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So?


[/quote]

And Red eyes means?  
Eye color affects what?

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It means nothing. Only the color blueis conserened.  Just note that it changed color with no reason given to one that indicates indoctriantion.
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[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

And EDI have the same eyes, only not glowing.

Not the same color...
 
.....But Eva did have the same color of indoctrination...
 

[Gorkan86]

Red eyes means nothing? Do you even played ME?

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

 This handily expesses I.T.



 

This is one thing I can agree that goes with IT. Those eyes on Shepard seem out of place with the literal ending and more with IT. We could say that the eyes are implants but then that would mean that Shepard's red renagade eyes would have a different look. But they don't. They're alsways blue.

[dreman9999]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 This handily expesses I.T.



 

This is one thing I can agree that goes with IT. Those eyes on Shepard seem out of place with the literal ending and more with IT. We could say that the eyes are implants but then that would mean that Shepard's red renagade eyes would have a different look. But they don't. They're alsways blue.

Which IT?
Dream theory or hallucinations theory?

[EpyonX3]

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 This handily expesses I.T.



 

This is one thing I can agree that goes with IT. Those eyes on Shepard seem out of place with the literal ending and more with IT. We could say that the eyes are implants but then that would mean that Shepard's red renagade eyes would have a different look. But they don't. They're alsways blue.

Which IT?
Dream theory or hallucinations theory?

Holy crap there are two of them?

I'm talking about the one where Shep gets indoctrinated, so you tell me.

[savionen]

vixvicco wrote...

Where's the evidence for the IT? Nitpicking at every shadow, every little noise, every sentence and everything you can pull out of nothing. Where's the evidence for the ending being literal? You don't have to try so hard, do you?
I think you get your answers there.

The literal ending makes so little sense that IT was created.

[dreman9999]

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 This handily expesses I.T.



 

This is one thing I can agree that goes with IT. Those eyes on Shepard seem out of place with the literal ending and more with IT. We could say that the eyes are implants but then that would mean that Shepard's red renagade eyes would have a different look. But they don't. They're alsways blue.

Which IT?
Dream theory or hallucinations theory?

Holy crap there are two of them?

I'm talking about the one where Shep gets indoctrinated, so you tell me.

Yes. One is the theory that everything after Shep is cut down is a dream. The other is that Shepard did get up but everything he sees is warped by the reapers and is an illusion. They both are have Shep in the process of indoctrination.

[Rodia Driftwood]

"contridiction"

[Gorkan86]

What is the difference, it was a dream or a hallucination? He still on Earth, according to (any)IT.

[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

What is the difference, it was a dream or a hallucination? He still on Earth, according to (any)IT.

There is a difference....Hallucination theory has shep on the citadel. Dream has him on earth. 

Modifié par dreman9999, 08 mai 2012 - 04:32 .

[Gorkan86]

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

What is the difference, it was a dream or a hallucination? He still on Earth, according to (any)IT.

There is a difference....Hallucination theory has shep on the citadel. Dream has him on earth. 

Hmmm.... I probably missed something.

[Tom Lehrer]

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

What is the difference, it was a dream or a hallucination? He still on Earth, according to (any)IT.

There is a difference....Hallucination theory has shep on the citadel. Dream has him on earth. 

Does it matter? Both say its all just a bad dream like some halfassed thriller movie.

[EpyonX3]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

What is the difference, it was a dream or a hallucination? He still on Earth, according to (any)IT.

There is a difference....Hallucination theory has shep on the citadel. Dream has him on earth. 

Does it matter? Both say its all just a bad dream like some halfassed thriller movie.

And that he ends up being indoctrinated if he chooses anything but destroy.