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[Kingston Atticus]

Psycho Pisces wrote...

daytona123 wrote...

Are you the type of player where the other members of the group decide to stay in a certain area and you run down to an area closest to the spawns so they end up with 0 kills and you have 2000? If so then your just a dick and not a kill stealer.

Sure the game's main mission is to survive to the end but if your taking all the kills you might as well do solo missions.

Also I haven't played in a couple weeks but im pretty sure your exp isnt the same at the end, it depends on your contributions.

Also If your story is true you likely just got into a group with some dbags.

Your "Score" is the only difference between players at the end screen.. You all get the same amount of exp, the same amount of credits.

I run a 4 man group on the weekends, our exp, and credits are the same no matter where we rank in the list.   The sole concept of this game is to MAKE THINGS DEAD.   If you want, go cower in the corner an wait for them overrun your position an kill you by sheer numbers..

Or take a pro-active view point, keep killing on the move an stay alive longer.    It is just a game.. People who rage, and trashtalk after the game bewilder me..  What is the point of playing, if you die repeatedly in the same place.. The tactic isn't working, adjust an try something new.  

Communication is the key, so rather than start cursing on xbox-live  that someone scored more.. Buy a mic, talk about the game plan an bring everyone into the loop.  

 I agree communication is good but those that are barking orders at you can be annoying as well.So I agree with the last part of what Psycho Pisces said the most. "Talk about the game plan and bring everyone into the loop." Either that or go in with no plan and like some others said, Just make everything D-E-A-D, and try not to care who killed what. You know how you helped and if you play with friends they know. But you can never have enough gaming friends, so there are always people in forums like these who have no problem with you adding them or with how our enemy dies for the most part. I've seen plenty of people agree on that last point of mine. I do suggest you message them on whatever system it is, so they know how you know them or atleast their gamertag though so they will be more willing to add you.

Modifié par Kingston Atticus, 05 mai 2012 - 11:13 .

[blaidfiste]

Nickle wrote...

Ryan80537 wrote...
My golden rule for kill stealing: Don't shoot the target that the Batarian is about to Falcon Punch.

Come on dude, Falcon Punch takes like an hour to charge up, and like 45mins for the animation to complete.

Batarians are cool and all but submission net -> run 20m to target -> heavy melee is a horrible tactic.  I refuse to sit and wait while a batarian pulls that crap.  Same goes for Krogan RRRRAAAAWWWWHAAHAAW,
RRRRAAAAWWWWHAAHAWWW, 
RRRRAAAAWWWWHAAHAWWW running after husks when there's a brute on the field.

[Epique Phael767]

Mendelevosa wrote...

Oodle12 wrote...

U wouldn't happen to be playing on xbox would u....?

Yeah. I play on the Xbox.

This. The vast majority of Xbox players I have run into have been selfish leetists. I wish my pc could handle ME3.

[HellbirdIV]

Kill stealing has two major downsides in this game;

1. Infiltrators think that finishing off enemies with their overpowered sniper rifles makes them good by default - it doesn't, because half the time you're killing an enemy that a biotic or tech class has prepared for a combo explosion, thereby hampering overall team progress. Seriously people, stop sniping targets with Warp or Lift on them.

2. As a result of this stupid behaviour, plus the terrible way in which points are calculated, Infiltrators (or snipers in general, in particular using a Widow or Black Widow) can get around four times the points that other players get, but only doing half the work. This isn't a big deal in and of itself, but it certainly doesn't motivate people who like to play competetively to play anything else than Facerolltrators.

[Kingston Atticus]

Epique Phael767 wrote...

This. The vast majority of Xbox players I have run into have been selfish leetists. I wish my pc could handle ME3.

Thank you for saying majority and not all of us. I love playing the game for fun and prefer to enjoy the company of the ones I am playing with.

[Maria Caliban]

I'm surprised at the number of people who believe the original post.

[SGhost]

Kingston Atticus wrote...

Epique Phael767 wrote...

This. The vast majority of Xbox players I have run into have been selfish leetists. I wish my pc could handle ME3.

Thank you for saying majority and not all of us. I love playing the game for fun and prefer to enjoy the company of the ones I am playing with.

See...this is the problem with the one shot kill.

I sit in my happy sniper perch and a target comes around the corner.  I line up the headshot and...

He starts floating in the air.

So I don't shoot him now?

How about 'stop hitting my targets with biotics.'

Just as stupid a suggestion.

I'm not going to waste time locating another target while you finish off the one I was aiming at only to have you turn the next one blue or have the Vanguard teleport into the middle of him and knock him aside.

If it's in my sights, I shoot it.  I don't specifically seek out your targets, but odds are, you aren't paying attention to where your sniper is sitting with his narrow field of fire and you're jumping in his way to melee/blow up/lift targets.

It goes both ways.  I promise not to shoot your targets if you promise not to run in front of me and take mine 

[InHarmsWay]

Oddly enough, I have been accused of being a CoD player when I was devastating the enemy.

[Silvair]

OblivionDawn wrote...

There is a difference between focusing fire and deliberately stealing kills.

OP, it seems like you were doing the former, and had to suffer the company of some pathetic teammates, it happens, unfortunately.

Anyway:

Focusing Fire = You and one or more teammates start shooting at the enemy when they're roughly at full health. With so many bullets flying around, it's likely that the person who started shooting first will not get the kill. This is just a circumstance of teamwork.

Kill Stealing = You (and possibly others) are attacking a target alone, and shoot/biotic/tech damage him within an inch of his life. Suddenly, another teammate swoops in from nowhere and and deals enough damage to kill the enemy, even though he contributed nothing to whittling down the enemy in the first place. This is rude as hell and only scrubs try to justify it.

This.

[spawn of apathy]

I cared about "kill stealing" until I realized that everyone got the same XP and Credits. Didn't matter if you were the guy getting 100k+ points on Gold, or the guy getting 40k+ on Gold. Everyone got the same. So in the end I don't care. If my build/character helps get kills faster and I in turn end up getting 80-90% assists, then I'm happy. As long as the team has an easier time getting through.

Though I still wish game medals were higher. I may not rack up 200+ kills myself, but I easily get more than that in assists with my Engineer. I'd like people to see that I wasn't just sitting out of the way letting everyone else do the work. I want them to know I played a part in many, if not most of their kills they got credit for.

[BERT AND ERNY]

a quick question. when it flashes up "kill" or "assist", is the number that accompanies it in relation to the "score" you get at the end or is it xp. tho i would like to reiterate that as long as you shooting at mobs you get a proportion of the score regardless, so the final act of the "kill" is inconsequential, there must be a personal xp score or at least it would appear so cos my chars don't always seem to level at the same speed. if i perform better it seem to make a diff. could be imagining that and i have kept level 20's since the promotion challenge so its a while since i have seen any actual levelling.

[Chaynsaw]

I have to red-flag these "Are these people crazy or what?" stories that I keep reading about on this forum. I find it much likelier you're leaving out crucial details or telling it differently than it went down. This person sounds like he's either 1) mentally ill or 2) fictional.

In all my inordinate time spent farming gold, the only time anyone has ever cared about kill-stealing is when they did it to the exclusion of anything else.

[Nellex]

Rayne01 wrote...

just be glad you did not have to play with them any longer. sadly idiots will be as long as humanity exists

Maybe the Reapers were right...

[DextroDNA]

This is exactly what I do. I get shouted out for kill-stealing.
One match, I was really being screamed at by some 10 year old. He didn't revive me even though he was stood next to me, so I had to use a medi-gel. When I asked him why, his response was;
"Go suck a dick!"
Later on, he fell down and I started to revive him. And just for teh lulz, before the revive finished - I cancelled, shot him and ran off.

[wicked_being]

blaidfiste wrote...

Nickle wrote...

Ryan80537 wrote...
My golden rule for kill stealing: Don't shoot the target that the Batarian is about to Falcon Punch.

Come on dude, Falcon Punch takes like an hour to charge up, and like 45mins for the animation to complete.

Batarians are cool and all but submission net -> run 20m to target -> heavy melee is a horrible tactic.

I really don't get why people insist on doing a heavy melee finish. Just shoot the damn thing and move on to the next.

[KentGoldings]

Being kicked by crappy players seems like a problem that just solved itself.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

I just don't give a ****. It's a team game, individual score doesn't matter. Whenever I get a message over Xbox insulting me and complaining about KSing, I simply respond "QQ moar plz" and leave it at that. :3

Edit: Thought I'd clarfiy, I'm not a jackass, so I don't intentionally go out of my way to steal people's kills.

Modifié par Xx_Belzak_xX, 06 mai 2012 - 11:39 .

[tvman099]

I only get annoyed when playing my batarian sentinel and some ass with a sniper rifle starts trying to kill the enemy I'm in the middle of a heavy melee attack on, and they can clearly see what I'm doing.

Your puny little gun is lame. My falcon punch is awesome. Go shoot something else.

[Torguemada]

Only time "kill helping" really bothers me is when i'm using Asari adept/vanguard with kishock or graal and some brain-dead idiot decides to shoot my stasished phantom with some ****ty pea shooter like Widow breaking the stasis and releasing the not dead phantom, where as if they had given me a second i would have instakilled that phantom.

[KentGoldings]

Torguemada wrote...

Only time "kill helping" really bothers me is when i'm using Asari adept/vanguard with kishock or graal and some brain-dead idiot decides to shoot my stasished phantom with some ****ty pea shooter like Widow breaking the stasis and releasing the not dead phantom, where as if they had given me a second i would have instakilled that phantom.

This frustrates me as well. If you're going to attack a target in stasis, please do enough damage to put it down.  That usually requires a head shot. 

[Totally_Mad_Rat]

There's no such thing as kill-"stealing" in any game. Not even in Gears of War.

Nevertheless, there're some scenarios that can make me pissed off. E.g., I pull a target setting up a biotic explosion that can hurt other enemies around. Instead, some idiot infiltrator one-shots the unshielded enemy with a Widow. He just lowers the team overall DPS by preventing the biotic explosion and not concentrating fire on tougher enemies.

[SGhost]

For you meleers, here's the thing from my sniping pov.

In that instant that I see something punching you, I do not go 'oh, well, he's a Batarian with full shields and full health who can easily kick it's ass.'

I think 'I don't know what his health/shields are or what his power recharge status is or if he's trying to reload a shotgun' and I shoot it.

Those same guys who **** about someone killstealing them while they're meleeing will turn around the next minute and **** that you didn't help them out when they were hurting.

I can't see what's on your screen. In that instant that I have that Geth Hunter in my sights, I don't know if you're about to boot stomp his head or if you're stunned and need help. I'd much rather shoot it and move on since we're all in this together.

[Ranor]

I don't care for kills, sure I like getting top score but we all get the same creds and XP and on top of that there are cases where it's better to make it to the end than die over and over.

[jazzking2001]

rly now?
does your own score affect the XP you get that much?

- personally, i care for about credits than XP

+ also if i am about to die and someone saves me THANK GOD YOU SAVED ME

Modifié par jazzking2001, 06 mai 2012 - 02:58 .

[The_Shootist]

The Protheans wrote...

Don't steal kills.

It's that simple.

You can't steal kills in a co-op game. I see an enemy. I shoot enemy. Enemy dies. Life is good.