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[JabberJaww]

For lack of a better term, because i dont really consider the choices being evil per se, but which orgin is more condusive for being bitter and playing angry.

I have not played the Dwarf Commoner or the Elf Dalish yet.

I guess im looking at for RPG reasons. Human Noble is certainly bitter, but his/her motivation is revenge for his parents, and that is more or less directed at Arl Howe.

the Dwarf Noble's anger would be directed at his idiot brother

The city Elf would have a reason to hate all of humanity.. so possibly he could be bitter and evil.

I like looking for a reason to play evil rather than blindly selecting the unpopular responses just to have a different playthrough... i am looking for motivation for being a jerk.

[Original182]

Dwarf commoner would be a good candidate. You lived a life of crime for so long, that old habits die hard.

[izmirtheastarach]

City elf, though not really evil, is the most bitter and angry, imo. What with the rape and all.

[OneBadAssMother]

City elf, hate all humans - which is the majority of the populace xD

[JabberJaww]

Of the Origins i have played, the City Elf certainly seems like he could hate everything.

[Bali_of_Terenas]

I would say that the casteless dwarf or city elf have the most reason to hate the world. That said any of the origins could fit the bill. The human noble could be power hungry, the Dalish could want to destroy human society, etc.



The origin scenario should influence your character but they aren't defined by it. Going back to the human noble, sure you might want to kill Howe now, but nothing says you weren't planning on poisoning your brother prior.

[Litchenstein]

City Elf can certainly be vindictive, blunt, cruel to humans, and a criminal. But for an evil charecter i would make a mage. You can be out for power and have a distinct hate of the chantry , and non magical beings, and most magical ones. Go go Maleificarum and demonic pact makers.

Modifié par Litchenstein, 08 décembre 2009 - 05:22 .

[Jacks-Up]

Mage.    The game stresses on just how bad blood magic is from the start, every other specialization aside from the Rever can go either way but blood magic is considered a no no.

[Original182]

JabberJaww wrote...

Of the Origins i have played, the City Elf certainly seems like he could hate everything.

Dude I seriously ask you to consider casteless dwarf. The City Elf to me seem like oppressed people, but at least they have a family. It's more like they just want to be left alone.
But the casteless dwarf lives a life of crime. Mugging, killing, anything to earn favor with the Cartel boss. You have no choice but to bloody your hands just to have food to eat.

Modifié par Original182, 08 décembre 2009 - 05:30 .

[izmirtheastarach]

Mage is certainly the one most likely to abuse his power.

[Original182]

Mage could work. You could always roleplay as a neutral mage. Then once you got the option to unlock blood magic, you become corrupted and evil.

[izmirtheastarach]

Original182 wrote...

JabberJaww wrote...

Of the Origins i have played, the City Elf certainly seems like he could hate everything.

Dude I seriously ask you to consider casteless dwarf. The City Elf to me seem like oppressed people, but at least they have a family. It's more like they just want to be left alone.
But the casteless dwarf lives a life of crime. Mugging, killing, anything to earn favor with the Cartel boss. You have no choice but to bloody your hands just to have food to eat.

The city elf has his cousin raped, if female has her bethrothed killed. We are talking about the whole origin story, not just the social situation of the race in question.

[izmirtheastarach]

Original182 wrote...

Mage could work. You could always roleplay as a neutral mage. Then once you got the option to unlock blood magic, you become corrupted and evil.

You've been curious about magic since Jowan used it to escape, and you can easily arrive at Redcliffe and unlock blood magic right about level 7. Would be a sold RP option.

[JabberJaww]

Original182 wrote...

JabberJaww wrote...

Of the Origins i have played, the City Elf certainly seems like he could hate everything.

Dude I seriously ask you to consider casteless dwarf. The City Elf to me seem like oppressed people, but at least they have a family. It's more like they just want to be left alone.
But the casteless dwarf lives a life of crime. Mugging, killing, anything to earn favor with the Cartel boss. You have no choice but to bloody your hands just to have food to eat.

I am going to make one tonight. Thats kind of what I am looking for.

I really like the idea of a background and character starting out evil, the story driving you to play that way. Most of the times the orgin or background in RPG's veer towards being good.

it was easy and fun playing Dark Side in KOTOR because, well, he was friggin' Revan.. and thats the way he was.

[tmp7704]

Would think a mage works nicely for this -- you're considered a scary freak of nature who needs to be kept on short leash and locked up because you might do something Bad™ On top of that enough mades seem to focus only on gaining even more power they already have rest of the population be damned, Uldred being just one example.

[JabberJaww]

I beat the game as a Mage, my one problem with playing evil is there are positive influences. 1st Enchanter Irwin is a good and influential presence. The entire background is to avoid Demons and be righteous. Even Jowan was regretful, and did it all for love. I couldnt find a reason to play him bad. All of Fereldon is terrified of a mage, and it would be expected they would go bad. So since is like to RP in these games, the motivation would be to prove them wrong about the Mage

[Original182]

JabberJaww wrote...
I am going to make one tonight. Thats kind of what I am looking for.

I really like the idea of a background and character starting out evil, the story driving you to play that way. Most of the times the orgin or background in RPG's veer towards being good.

it was easy and fun playing Dark Side in KOTOR because, well, he was friggin' Revan.. and thats the way he was.

Ok cool. At least try him out before you make your final decision.

[supersweetjay]

Any of them work. Evil isn't defined by your past, but rather by the actions you take in the present.

[KalosCast]

Any of them work except for Human Noble



City Elf - Life in the alienage has hardened your character into a human-hating bringer of death without pity

Dalish Elf - Life of constant migration, made more difficult by frequent scuffles with humans that hate you merely for being an elf has hardened your character into a human-hating bringer of death without pity

Dwarven Commoner - Already mentioned, old habits die hard.

Dwarven Noble - You were the favored candidate to take the throne, despite your older brother technically being heir. You were then outmaneuvered by your lil' bro and lost everything. By lucky circumstances, you were able to survive to regain power wherever you can by any means needed.

Mage - Being inducted into the Grey Wardens have given you a free sanctioned pass to use your powers to the very height of your abilities, and the oppressive Chantry and their Templars can't touch you.

[Kalcalan]

Dwarf Commoner seems like the best pick to me. Your character is after all a hardened criminal.

Modifié par Kalcalan, 08 décembre 2009 - 06:15 .

[tmp7704]

JabberJaww wrote...

I couldnt find a reason to play him bad. All of Fereldon is terrified of a mage, and it would be expected they would go bad. So since is like to RP in these games, the motivation would be to prove them wrong about the Mage

People have different ways to cope with negative expectations. Some will strive to prove the nay-sayers wrong as you say, but others can go "you (don't even know me but still) think i'm bad just because of what i am? Well f*ck you, i'll show you just how bad i can be". It can really go both ways as far as RP goes.

(you were asking about reasons to play bitter and angry and mages have these in spades, imo. Not all of them turn out this way but it's unrealistic to expect them all to turn out saints always willing to turn the other cheek, either)

Modifié par tmp7704, 08 décembre 2009 - 06:20 .

[supersweetjay]

Human Noble: The Arl's treachery and your parents' death spurned an intense hatred and created a nihilist beyond reproach. Or: You never cared for your family anyway, and were glad to finally be free of all their sniveling do-goodery. Now, to kill the Arl who had the audacity to kill them before you could...



Human noble also works.

[noretus]

I think they all work but I'm also partial to saying Mage.



City Elves may be bitter but just downright evil... I don't really see it.



Also, I think First Enchanter Irving is evil :x Don't let the droopy eyes and grandfatherly tone lull you into false sense of security.

[Jwade86]

To be completely evil with the city elf you would have to let the Arl rape Shianni. Me personally no matter if its in a RP universe I just couldn't let that happen. But its your call.

[The Angry One]

Jacks-Up wrote...

Mage.    The game stresses on just how bad blood magic is from the start, every other specialization aside from the Rever can go either way but blood magic is considered a no no.

Oh don't start this again, you lost all credibility in that other topic.
Suffice to say a blood mage by definition is not evil.