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[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Besides Garrus Miranda was the character with the highest survival rating according to ME3 final hours, iirc, and not only that but she was THE most important character in ME2 (followed by garrus, mordin, tali, and legion, who all got major roles and rides on the normandy in 3.  tali and mordin dont even have good survival ratings, and plenty of people sold legion without realising he was a squadmate)

Beyond that Miranda has upwards of 4 critical moments in the game where recruitment dialogue feels like it could be inserted.  When you meet her on the citadel shepard doesnt even ask her to come with, every time after that shepard doesnt bother to bring up recruitment at all (even jack and thane get the ability to say "nah shep my normandy days are over, sorry")  And the way her story wraps up after Sanctuary feels like a perfect moment to ask her to join again, but theres no way to find her and bring it up.  it just feels like there were plans to have her join at one point but they got pushed back for budget reasons, it'd be great to see her back, and we really need at least one ME2 only squaddie to return. 

For being such a pivotal character she really doesnt have much focus in ME3, it almost feels like theres stuff that was "stripped away" from her potential inclusion into this game.  I remember hearing PW say something about how the decision between ME3 crew and budgeting ME2 crew was a devisive one internally at bioware, and Miranda seems like the perfect subject for this.  Theres so many cerberus operations throughout the game that feel like they could really benefit from her perspective, and theres probably room for her somewhere on the ship (Since liara took the XO spot she could hang out in life support; I'd say batarian would fit nicely down in jack's old spot if I were to start sectioning off places on the ship, but this isnt a batarian topic, or vigilante topic)

But yeah, Miranda should totally be a DLC squaddie, maybe as part of take back omega (Since it would probably be a mission involving cerberus forces, they could arrange it so after speaking with aria miranda is flagged to stop you on your way out)  It would also be great to see her alternate apperance outfit make a return (with cerberus markings removed)  We could use another female suit of armor design (Since ashley and liara share one)  Theres so many spots where bringing her would really change things, and it'd be awesome to see her interact with ashley or liara, especially if they introduce romantic conflict dialogue between miranda and your old love interest.  I'm fine with jacob, jack, grunt, zaeed, and samara being relegated to leading troops in the final battle in extended cut, but miranda just feels like she belongs on the squad more than anyone at this point.

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 05 mai 2012 - 09:25 .

[video game freak]

Yeah, I never understood why she couldn't join you. Maybe we'll get dlc for this?

[mitthrawuodo]

seeing as though she can't be with you for Horizon and can die it is unlikely we'll get her. I think after we have been given some closure on all our old squadies adding one for DLC would be too difficult/unfair as for some people they will have died or will die in ME3 for some reason. I can only think that new DLC will either have temperory squadmates for the missions or new squadmate for another part of the ME universe (I'm hoping for a space pirate)

Modifié par mitthrawuodo, 05 mai 2012 - 10:09 .

[Micksterz]

Bioware can make some mad money if they make DLCs to recruit old ME2 squadmembers, maybe have like 2-3 characters per DLC, I know i'd pay for it. If its 10$ per character then Miranda would be the 1 I pick.

[Lawrence0294]

Her not coming after sanctuary really is frustrating and illogical. She is a bit wounded, hey guess what we have a medbay. She should've joined right after and you should've had a choice between bringing edi or miranda to cronos. It baffles me she isn't coming along, she has the opportunity to confront TIM, who she admired and almost was her icon, but doesn't come. Hell her relevance to cerberus troughout the game is shafted. She only mentions him once. She was the second in command for god sakes, she should've had so much more involvment in the arc. And don't get me started on her romance. I really felt frustated at all the amazing potential that was waisted on her. And i would have given anything for a miranda ashley confrontation. Really hope there will be a shadow broker style mission for her.

[Kingfurykiller]

It would be fun to have miranda. I used her alot in ME2 cuz the warp/overload combo was really good. but yeah im not sure it would work out storywise either.

I really wish Zaeed got more to his story...he was awesome!

[yesikareyes]

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[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Miranda is the only person other than kai leng we've seen speak with the illusive man in person, theres so much there that could add to this games' story, it really seems like something that was planned then pulled, hope it gets developed eventually


Obviously the dlc would need some content for people who dont have her alive or lose her in 3, but seeing how tali's recruitment went (tali doesnt have as much squad dialogue as anyone else, shows up late, same can be said for kaiden and ashley.  I bet developing both of them sunk into resources and its why the options to kill them or make them war assets were coded into the game)  the way that screen zooms out when you have 7 characters really leaves the implication that there's plans for at least 2 more.  (Miranda and Batarian would really round things out, also we could use another biotic on the squad, she'd probably need her abilities changed, since javik already has slam, it'd be nice if she had throw since no one in your squad learns that move)

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 05 mai 2012 - 10:34 .

[kookie28]

I approve this idea.

[Caihn]

Yeah, she should have been a squadmate ..

[SNascimento]

Yes, especially considering her connection to Cerberus...
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Although I think I prefer if she took Kai Leng's place.

[BatmanPWNS]

Bioware has a rule and that rule is that you can only have one sexy catsuit wearing human in a Mass Effect game.In this game, that's Ash.

[Edolix]

Yes, she should have. She had no reason not to. She clearly said she needed to hide, what better place then the Normandy?

The same goes for Zaeed. What the hell is he doing, sitting on his backside in the Citadel refugee camp? Get your arse on the Normandy, you big goddamn hero!

And Grunt, especially if all of Aralakh company is killed in the Rachni mission. On my first playthrough I actually went to the med bay on the Normandy to see if he was recovering =P Was kinda irked to find out that he just...vanished.

Also, Samara. I was pretty sure she swore an oath to me in ME2...so why can't she join me on the Normandy? And I certainatly don't buy her arguement about "fighting where it's most desperate" or w/e.

I guess the others have more legitimate reasons (Jack with her students, Jacob with Cerberus escapee's, etc) but the other's should have been recruitable. Imho.

[Han Shot First]

Considering how hard it is to kill Miranda in Mass Effect 2, I had assumed that she was guaranteed to be a squadmate in Mass Effect 3. She is actually harder to kill than Garrus and Tali, both of whom returned as squadmates.

With that in mind I wonder if money was the determining factor in Miranda not being on the squad. Yvonne Strahovski is a much bigger name than Brandon Keener or Liz (Ash?) Sroka, so perhaps she is also more expensive. I wonder if voice actor salaries was a determining factor in how large or small a role certain characters got.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 mai 2012 - 11:09 .

[mauro2222]

Let's see, Cerberus agent, wanted by the Alliance, then she left Cerberus and now is wanted by Cerberus...

You guys want her dead.

[Drake_Hound]

Well not everybody is like Samuel Jackson who tells there agent get me a role on that project.
Even if I have to work for free...

So basically voa or actrices are dependable on there agents , the more famous they get .
The more it is up to the agent , not her own choice if she wants to do it or not .

[ENorman94]

They say its because she could be dead but thats bs because Tali, Legion, and Mordin could be dead yet they play pivotal roles.

They shouldve structured the Cerberus arc the same way as the Rannoch and Tuchanka one: 2 side missions and the main mission with 2 characters representing oppoaing sides .
 
Miranda's role couldve been like Tali or Mordin's...but this is pointless because that didnt happen and never will lol.

Modifié par ENorman94, 05 mai 2012 - 11:22 .

[mauro2222]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Miranda's perfect behind should be a squadmate tbh.

I actually never really saw the appeal in it. Call me crazy if you wish.

Neither did I, that rear is far from perfect.

[Han Shot First]

I think Garrus and Tali being squadmates in not just one, but two, previous games was a factor in them getting into the third. As well as popularity with fans (not saying Miranda doesn't have many fans, just not quite on the same level as Team Dextro).

I don't disagree, and am not complaining about either of them being in all three games. Garrus in particular is one of my favorite characters. I just pointing out that since Miranda is harder to kill than both of them, you'd think she'd be a shoe in for ME3 squadmate.

That she didn't end up on the squad is a little hard to explain considering how Bioware made her so difficult to kill in ME2, as if the intention was to carry her over to the next game. So I do wonder if salary ended up being an issue. If salary was an issue, I'd rather they'd replaced Yvonne with a lesser known Aussie actress who could do a passable impression. (pulled a Mordin)

If paying VAs was an issue, then I don't know what they were thinking putting Buzz Aldrin in there (actually, I don't know what they were thinking there regardless).

I doubt he was expensive. He only has a couple lines of dialogue, and isn't in an actor.

I loved the Buzz Aldrin cameo, personally. I hated the ending and didn't like the implications of the character he voiced, but I think the decision to have him voice a character in the finale was an epic one. It was a nice little tribute to the space program, and I loved the sentiments expressed by his character about space exploration. It's just a shame that he wasn't used in a better ending.

Neither did I, that rear is far from perfect.

It probably boils down to personal prefence. While Miranda does have a hot body, I think her backside is a little too ample. But if Kim Kardashian or Jennifer Lopez is your idea of a woman with the perfect body, you'll probably think the same about Miranda.
 
I personally think both Liara and Ashley have better bodies than Miranda, but I also think Elisabetta Canalis has a hotter body than Kim Kardashian or Jennifer Lopez. I'd say Liara & Ashley are the same body type as Elisabetta Canalis.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 mai 2012 - 11:34 .

[Han Shot First]

I read somewhere that Jacob actually has the highest survival rating.

He is easier to kill than Miranda, and can be killed at multiple points during the Suicide Mission. He can be killed quite easily by the Reaper swarm if he is paired with a weak or unloyal biotic, or if brought along for the final battle while unloyal. He can also be killed by taking a rocket to the face, and IIRC he can die in the vents as well.

Miranda can only be killed if she is unloyal and brought along for the final battle with the Human Reaper.

I think with that evidence, it goes without saying that survival frequency is a pretty poor thing to choose squadmates with.

If that were the only reason, I'd agree.

But in addition to being hard to eradicate in ME2, Miranda could have potentially played a large role in Mass Effect 3's plot, considering how central Cerberus was to it.