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[mauro2222]

Han Shot First wrote...

Neither did I, that rear is far from perfect.

It probably boils down to personal prefence. While Miranda does have a hot body, I think her backside is a little too ample. But if Kim Kardashian or Jennifer Lopez is your idea of a woman with the perfect body, you'll probably think the same about Miranda.
 
I personally think both Liara and Ashley have better bodies than Miranda, but I also think Elisabetta Canalis has a hotter body than Kim Kardashian or Jennifer Lopez. I'd say Liara & Ashley are the same body type as Elisabetta Canalis.

Is just that her ass is... a fat ass, nothing less, it's the ass of someone who doesn't do nothing. A big ass with skinny legs. That's why Tali's ass looks better, she has a nice ass with shape and strong legs.

Modifié par mauro2222, 05 mai 2012 - 11:57 .

[darthnick427]

I'm all for more Miranda content but I really don't think Bioware can make her a squadmate with the route the took for her character arc. She is very much "unavailable" most of the game and is only free to go with you after Sanctuary and that is in the last 5 hours of the game. They can't make her a squadmate unless they invent a way for her to serve on an Alliance ship which I sadly don't see happening. To be brutally honest the easiest person of the ME2 squad to make a DLC squadmate is Grunt. Since his whole Krogan Company can die and he has no reason not to join you after that

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

ENorman94 wrote...


They shouldve structured the Cerberus arc the same way as the Rannoch and Tuchanka one: 2 side missions and the main mission with 2 characters representing oppoaing sides .
 
Miranda's role couldve been like Tali or Mordin's...but this is pointless because that didnt happen and never will lol.

If you leave jacob and samara's missions until after rannoch you kind of get an asari/cerberus story arc (Cerberus Escapees, Asari Monastary, Thessia, Sanctuary, Chronos Station.  These five missions kind of lead into eachother with cerberus amping up, asari being turned into husks, kai leng stealing the data, tracking him to sanctuary, then the assault on cerberus hq.  Also these are the missions where you fight Banshee's, Kai Leng, and deal with cerberus head on.  Its sort of the "ME2 resolution" arc)

Though I'd rather just get to take Miranda with me for at least half of the game
It would have also been neat to have more romantic conflict focus (as far as i can tell the only problem that occurs to romancing too many times is miranda can end up auto-killed...oh no!) 

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I read somewhere that Jacob actually has the highest survival rating.

He is easier to kill than Miranda, and can be killed at multiple points during the Suicide Mission. He can be killed quite easily by the Reaper swarm if he is paired with a weak or unloyal biotic, or if brought along for the final battle while unloyal. He can also be killed by taking a rocket to the face, and IIRC he can die in the vents as well.

Miranda can only be killed if she is unloyal and brought along for the final battle with the Human Reaper.

Jacob is one of the lower-priority characters to die in the "Not the bees!" scenario (I've consulted a chart with relevant info), and was likely sent in the vents by almost nobody, as you're explicitly told it's a bad choice.

Miranda can also die in the "Hold the Line" segment if unloyal, and, unlike Jacob, actually has a sizable chance of being unloyal due to her conflict with Jack.

Anyway, it's just a chart I saw one time; not sure if it's 100% accurate. Miranda was second-highest either way.

http://img203.images...ssionfinal8.jpg

Jacob's actually smack dab in the middle of both lists, though if you pair him up with mordin or miranda he'll end up getting the bees (Which are both common pairings for him squadwise)



Heres the survival charts.  tali is actually dead in 1/4th of the games they took data from.  Jacob probably got off so safe because most people send him as a crew escort (since he's boring, i know i sent him off for this reason in my game)  Geoff of RvB said he sent Jacob because "hey man, jacob, i let him take a break at the end"

weird that they dont list dlc characters.  yeah kasumi came pretty late but zaeed was in there day 1 and most people kept him alive, though if he was killable before the suicide mission i wonder how many people would have left him there for various reasons.  (he's crazy, or didn't like him, or just curiosity)

I imagine legion is super low on the survival charts too because you can sell him to cerberus.

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 06 mai 2012 - 02:01 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

darthnick427 wrote...

I'm all for more Miranda content but I really don't think Bioware can make her a squadmate with the route the took for her character arc. She is very much "unavailable" most of the game and is only free to go with you after Sanctuary and that is in the last 5 hours of the game. They can't make her a squadmate unless they invent a way for her to serve on an Alliance ship which I sadly don't see happening. To be brutally honest the easiest person of the ME2 squad to make a DLC squadmate is Grunt. Since his whole Krogan Company can die and he has no reason not to join you after that

Well the idea would be that there'd be some conversation trees patched to add in a line of, "Miranda, why dont you come with me on the Normandy and help us fight Cerberus?"  The lack of any version of this in the game when other major characters get responses where they turn you down calls this lack of recruitment into question.  Was miranda going to join and they cut it?  

Between the beginning of the game and Sanctuary Miranda is doing one thing: Trying to find her sister.  This can be accomplished on the normandy as well, they can even throw in a scene where Miranda sneaks into Liara's room and checks her computer or confronts her about helping her find Oriana.  (I imagine her regular quarters would end up being Life Support since its the only room where nothing happens in)  having her go with you through Sanctuary, it could still go the same way but they could write it so miranda auto accompanies you as a "third" squadmate, then you get split up as she looks for Oriana and she rejoins you after the mission if she doesn't die, or just rewrite some of the scenes so that it works with miranda showing up alongside shepard.

Obviously if you dont ask her to go with you her scenes would play out like they do now.

[darthnick427]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

I'm all for more Miranda content but I really don't think Bioware can make her a squadmate with the route the took for her character arc. She is very much "unavailable" most of the game and is only free to go with you after Sanctuary and that is in the last 5 hours of the game. They can't make her a squadmate unless they invent a way for her to serve on an Alliance ship which I sadly don't see happening. To be brutally honest the easiest person of the ME2 squad to make a DLC squadmate is Grunt. Since his whole Krogan Company can die and he has no reason not to join you after that

Well the idea would be that there'd be some conversation trees patched to add in a line of, "Miranda, why dont you come with me on the Normandy and help us fight Cerberus?"  The lack of any version of this in the game when other major characters get responses where they turn you down calls this lack of recruitment into question.  Was miranda going to join and they cut it?  

Between the beginning of the game and Sanctuary Miranda is doing one thing: Trying to find her sister.  This can be accomplished on the normandy as well, they can even throw in a scene where Miranda sneaks into Liara's room and checks her computer or confronts her about helping her find Oriana.  (I imagine her regular quarters would end up being Life Support since its the only room where nothing happens in)  having her go with you through Sanctuary, it could still go the same way but they could write it so miranda auto accompanies you as a "third" squadmate, then you get split up as she looks for Oriana and she rejoins you after the mission if she doesn't die, or just rewrite some of the scenes so that it works with miranda showing up alongside shepard.

Obviously if you dont ask her to go with you her scenes would play out like they do now.

hmm interesting. I'd be all for the option but I still think it would be easier to bring Grunt back.

[Virginian]

My femshep wants recruit Miranda to bed.

[potatoman22]

i totally agree with this, when i completed ME2 i thought there was no way she wasnt going to be in the game, she is so important storyline wise i hope she can be DLC and a full fleshed out character(DLC characters are not always fleshed out like non DLC characters)

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

darthnick427 wrote...


hmm interesting. I'd be all for the option but I still think it would be easier to bring Grunt back.

Yeah grunt would be great, but then again so would zaeed, kasumi, mordin, jacob, jack, and samara.  Miranda probably wins out of the "ME2 cast that become war assets" as far as usability and flexibility are concerned.  Most everyone else has decent potential in extended cut as troop commanders.

• Grunt and Arlahk Company (Whats left of them depending on your choice, or hell, have him fight alongside Wrex/Wreave/the rest of the Krogan ground troops)
• Jacob commanding Ex-Cerberus and Alliance Forces (N7 Special Ops)
• Jack and her Biotics division
• Samara and Asari Commandos
• Zaeed and Aria's Merc Groups
• Oh and dont forget the Geth Primes  (Mordin and Kasumi are on the Crucible so they dont count)

That just leaves Miranda, she isnt really affiliated with anyone and her story has a really weird beat to it.  The others all have a place in the war, Miranda is cast out of Cerberus, so she doesn't really.    (Her coms dialogue at the end kind of makes it curious what she's even doing to help out with in the war.  She just kind of talks vaguely about the battle but she doesnt really act like you'd think she should.)

Like Liara in ME2 before her DLC release, she feels stripped down.)

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 06 mai 2012 - 03:25 .

[cbutz]

I agree with the OP, she should have been more involved and I would love to have her back on the squad. I would pay for that DLC with her alone (if they add two more from the ME 2 squad in the DLC I would be even happier!)
Yea, Miranda in ME 3 can be summed up with two words "Wasted Potential." She had so much going, especially with the Cerberus arc. Pre-Santcuary, she is only focusing on her sister, then post-sanct...nothing. After Sanctuary she should have gone up to the Normandy and taken part in the take down of Cronus, including a proper romance scene. She needs to deal with her Cerberus arc...it is unfinished. DLC adding her to Cronus and Normandy, a squadmember, or just DLC that includes more Miranda content would be greatly appreciated.

A LoTSB style DLC would eb pretty cool.Of course  DLC that gopes beyond that would just be awesome, I hope you are listening and reading to this Bioware 

Modifié par cbutz, 06 mai 2012 - 04:11 .

[omgodzilla]

I would be willing to pay a hefty sum for an LOTSB style dlc involving Miranda. They could put Jack in it as well. I was really hoping for some banter between those two =/

[CARL_DF90]

Only if she gets her ME2 DLC armor OP. Can't fathom how Bioware didn't catch the hint the first time: those cat suits are ridiculous and stupid! Jacob getting shot in the mid section should have demonstrated that perfectly. Oy.

[almondroy]

If they ever decide to recant and do post-ending DLC at some point (example: a rescue mission to pick up the Normandy survivors), they could always add her back in, either as a squad member OR as a temporary replacement for a Shepard that is still recovering from ending-related injuries.

[JamesT91]

miranda is too boring, she was only important in 2 because she was a cerberus lacky, in 3 she wouldn't be important the other female squad mates are smarter, tougher and have more history with shepard.


i do hope for some dlc with the 2 characters especialyl the romance ones but miranda as a squad mate in 3 would have been dumb because why would they choose her over the other interesting characters added in 2

[visionazzery]

I want Miranda so bad...if only for her curves well? though we all might wan personality and i for one strongly prefer that a guy or perhaps? even a girl on these forums cannot betray the beast in them can they? but damn Miranda is HOT and i don't get how some pple and friends i know of actually are reluctant to romance her just cos she with cerberus:P nothing wriong with being a badass does it really matter if she with cerberus? one can have a different view...right ands till be close in life true? Good timing to post on this topic..after all my current shepard actually...atm is bout to romance Miranda anyway!

[Oldbones2]

I really thought Miranda would be in ME 3 as a squadmate.

I mean she's the perfect resource to use against Cerberus. And you could have an awesome moral dilema at the end where she wants to take over Cerberus and return it to its original purpose, and you have to decide whether to allow her or kill her.

[Asch Lavigne]

Considering Miranda did diddly frickin' squat to help you about Cerberus anyways I don't think she'd add anything as a squadmate.

They're not going to go back into the game and give you ME2 squadmates. (That would require a lot of re-writing anyways).

Face it people, cameos is all you're getting. I'm all for the extended romance scenes since the ME2 cast got shafted there. Every day these "X character as squadmate!" threads pop up, I think it's time to let it go, it's not going to happen people. Besides, Miranda is after Oriana the whole game so she can't join you and what would be the point of her joining you after Horizon? Too late in the game. Again, she adds nothing to help you against Cerberus already as it is so what do you think she would add? And oh yeah, you have EDI for that.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 06 mai 2012 - 05:25 .

[tbb033]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I read somewhere that Jacob actually has the highest survival rating.

He is easier to kill than Miranda, and can be killed at multiple points during the Suicide Mission. He can be killed quite easily by the Reaper swarm if he is paired with a weak or unloyal biotic, or if brought along for the final battle while unloyal. He can also be killed by taking a rocket to the face, and IIRC he can die in the vents as well.

Miranda can only be killed if she is unloyal and brought along for the final battle with the Human Reaper.

Jacob is one of the lower-priority characters to die in the "Not the bees!" scenario (I've consulted a chart with relevant info), and was likely sent in the vents by almost nobody, as you're explicitly told it's a bad choice.

Miranda can also die in the "Hold the Line" segment if unloyal, and, unlike Jacob, actually has a sizable chance of being unloyal due to her conflict with Jack.

Anyway, it's just a chart I saw one time; not sure if it's 100% accurate. Miranda was second-highest either way.

http://img203.images...ssionfinal8.jpg

Jacob's actually smack dab in the middle of both lists, though if you pair him up with mordin or miranda he'll end up getting the bees (Which are both common pairings for him squadwise)



Heres the survival charts.  tali is actually dead in 1/4th of the games they took data from.  Jacob probably got off so safe because most people send him as a crew escort (since he's boring, i know i sent him off for this reason in my game)  Geoff of RvB said he sent Jacob because "hey man, jacob, i let him take a break at the end"

weird that they dont list dlc characters.  yeah kasumi came pretty late but zaeed was in there day 1 and most people kept him alive, though if he was killable before the suicide mission i wonder how many people would have left him there for various reasons.  (he's crazy, or didn't like him, or just curiosity)

I imagine legion is super low on the survival charts too because you can sell him to cerberus.

Interesting that part about putting certain characters so low because they die on the Normandy if you don't properly upgrade it. But if you don't have some of them recruited (on one play I didn't recruit Thane, and sold Legion), Garrus dies instead, so he should really be lower than he is taking that into account.

[potatoman22]

Oldbones2 wrote...

I really thought Miranda would be in ME 3 as a squadmate.

I mean she's the perfect resource to use against Cerberus. And you could have an awesome moral dilema at the end where she wants to take over Cerberus and return it to its original purpose, and you have to decide whether to allow her or kill her.

would be an epic choice you have to make

[Whole Particle]

Would we get more Romance Dialogue with her?

For those that have issue with Miranda's ex-Cerberus status on an Alliance ship, she could be allowed back on similar to how Ken and Gabby were, just pull the Spectre Status card.

JamesT91 wrote...

miranda is too boring, she was only important in 2 because she was a cerberus lacky, in 3 she wouldn't be important the other female squad mates are smarter, tougher and have more history with shepard.

Miranda has a ton of history w/ Shep IMO, she rebuilt'em for 2 years and spent the entire Collector Mission with the team.


If BW does offer her as DLC, maybe they could rewrite a few moments in the game (like have her guide you directly to the base rather than plant a tracker on Kai Leng, etc.).

[slaya811]

yes i think she deserves to be a squad mate in me3. her character got the shaft in this i hope there is dlc for her

[Mole267]

IMO any of these should've been additional possible squad members:

Miranda (or Jacob)
Wrex/Wreav (or Grunt)
Kal'Reegar (or Tali)
Kirrahe (or Mordin)
Samara or Morinth
Kasumi
Jack
Legion
Zaeed
Talitha (remember her? you can either let her die or save her in ME1, but you have to pick Colonist for Shepard at the start)
Balak (or a Batarian squad member)

Especially if you let a lot of your squad members die in ME2.

Modifié par Mole267, 07 mai 2012 - 06:28 .