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[Elvis_Mazur]

So am I.

[PirateT138]

Rent it and keep your expectations low.

It really, really felt like the ending was rushed and they just sorta said, "Eh, screw it."

This game just lacked soul.

[Clayless]

The Razman wrote...

I can only facepalm at letting yourself be led by the opinions of others.

Exactly.

[lillitheris]

The Razman wrote...

I can only facepalm at letting yourself be led by the opinions of others.

This is quite true.

I can’t even count the amazing experiences I have missed out on, listening to others’ opinions.

I never even stuck a fork in a wall socket, something I always regret. I should probably take up smoking to give it a go…or maybe opium?

[Father_Jerusalem]

lillitheris wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I can only facepalm at letting yourself be led by the opinions of others.

This is quite true.

I can’t even count the amazing experiences I have missed out on, listening to others’ opinions.

I never even stuck a fork in a wall socket, something I always regret. I should probably take up smoking to give it a go…or maybe opium?

You heard it here first. Apparently playing ME3 is the same as doing illegal, mind destroying drugs - or putting your life at risk by jabbing metal forks into wall sockets.

[lillitheris]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I can only facepalm at letting yourself be led by the opinions of others.

This is quite true.

I can’t even count the amazing experiences I have missed out on, listening to others’ opinions.

I never even stuck a fork in a wall socket, something I always regret. I should probably take up smoking to give it a go…or maybe opium?

You heard it here first. Apparently playing ME3 is the same as doing illegal, mind destroying drugs - or putting your life at risk by jabbing metal forks into wall sockets.

You’re just being overly negative now. I mean it’s about the journey, right, not the ending in a coffin or jail?

[HBC Dresden]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

NightAntilli wrote...

- ME1 had barren planets which were tedious to explore, shooting mechanics were crap, cover mechanics were crap, all classes played almost the same, had a bunch of time-wasting elevator rides, terrible performance and pop-in issues, tedious inventory and skill tree system, weapons overheating bug, getting stuck in environments, annoying mini-games..
- ME2 had almost no RPG mechanics whatsoever, main story sucked compared to ME1, was mainly a bunch of side quests, planet scanning was a drag (imo worse than mako), barely any exploration because of small locations, awful loading times, repetitive mini games, predictable fighting environments, being stuck in environments, apathetic characters (barely interacted with each other), lack of weapons and armor.
- ME3 has inferior journal, less exploration than ME1, confusing ending, glitches like teleporting characters, lip-sync issues, too much disc swapping (X360 only), too many shallow side quests.

On the flipside..

- ME1 had the best overall story, the most exploration, the deepest RPG elements, the most immersion.
- ME2 had improved shooting mechanics, better sidequests, better DLC support, better performance, better animations in conversations, better graphics, better action, better and more character support, each class was really unique.
- ME3 had improved cover-based mechanics over ME2, more verticality in gameplay, more cinematic moments, more variety in enemies, more emotional peaks and valleys, slightly deeper RPG elements than ME2, bigger Citadel, best interaction between characters, more variety in weapons..


I apologize if I forgot anything on any of the games. But point is....

Reading what you people (and people on sites like Amazon) are saying and comparing it to the pros and cons of all three, it doesn't seem that you all hate ME3 because it's actually worse. It's because you disliked the ending that you're nitpicking about everything in ME3, even if it's superior than the prior ones in many (if not most) ways. Or are the issues of the other two listed above somehow irrelevant? You can easily love ME3 for what it is and simply forget about the ending for a second, but you've chosen otherwise. I don't really get the hate for ME3 specifically while the other ones also had huge flaws, if not bigger flaws... But whatever.

and isn't it funny with ALL the flaws both ME1 and ME2 had that they're still awesome games?

I swear people here forget that ME1 and ME2 both, weren't universally loved, Both ME2 and ME3 did a lot better critically and sales wise (so far), but the opinion on all 3 has been mixed from the fanbase.  Hell In February people were still complaining how lame ME2 was in some cases and now all of a sudden a lot who hate ME3 automagically love ME2.

the BSN's general opinion ebbs and flows like the waves of an ocean.

QFT

[Tazzmission]

Legion64 wrote...

I suggest you atleast rent it. The game is great, up until the last 5 minutes. But still worth a try.

quoted for truth

[Bluko]

Kinste wrote...

Oh I wish it were different. The reviews I've read share how wonderful 95% of ME3 is, and deplore the endings. I can't bring myself to play it...

I won't be buying this game, Bioware. I'm disappointed already.

-a series fan with many hours sunk into ME1 and ME2

Get it on sale. You know when it's like $30-40 then it's a fair purchase. The game isn't complete junk, but really the state in which it was released was just bad. Like Bethesda bad almost. On the upside though I think ME3 still runs okay after 50 hours on the PS3. And this is precisely why 90% of namesake Reviewers should not be trusted at all anymore. There is something clearly wrong in their review processes. Which is probably them being paid off in some form. Hiding behind "opinion" doesn't work when it makes you look bipolar. I won't say Mazaon reviews are perfect but generally the top rated ones tend to be pretty spot on.

Those of us who paid $60 for a new game or $80 for the CE really got fooled. Maybe it's worth the $60 if youenjoy the multiplayer component. But the singleplayer has some pretty glaring issues that seem evident ME3 was really rushed out sooner then it should have been. Sure ME1 and ME2 had problems of their own, but ME3 still feels and look likes it is in a Beta stage in some cases. The ending(s) just happen to be the most glaring issue and this is where it's real easy to tell where something went wrong as the ending is definitely a rush job of some kind.


It's unfortunate as ME3 really should have been the most polished of the 3 games. It's glitchiness just about trumps ME1which itself is frightening. ME3 is certainly the first time I've experienced conversation animation issues though. Which is pretty appalling if not an immersion wrecking ball. You know a combat bug or glitching into the environment when I'm just walking around is one thing. But literally on the 360 version some of the conversations are just plain effed up. As far I know though the patches have done nothing to address these issues.

[spirosz]

Honestly, rent it and go through Rannoch and Tuchanka, then decide if you want to continue. If you can deal with the auto-dialogue and fetch quests, then it won't be that bad, but otherwise, I can't go through my second playthrough.

The MP is pretty fun, but repetitive, it's lost it's joy for me, but I still play a few gold matches here and there.

Legion's scene is beautiful -

Modifié par spiros9110, 07 mai 2012 - 01:30 .

[StElmo]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Lol you trust the amazon reviews?

Why wouldn't he/she?

If they are a fan, they will likely have a similar reaction.

[spirosz]

Bluko wrote...

Kinste wrote...

Oh I wish it were different. The reviews I've read share how wonderful 95% of ME3 is, and deplore the endings. I can't bring myself to play it...

I won't be buying this game, Bioware. I'm disappointed already.

-a series fan with many hours sunk into ME1 and ME2

Get it on sale. You know when it's like $30-40 then it's a fair purchase. The game isn't complete junk, but really the state in which it was released was just bad. Like Bethesda bad almost. On the upside though I think ME3 still runs okay after 50 hours on the PS3. And this is precisely why 90% of namesake Reviewers should not be trusted at all anymore. There is something clearly wrong in their review processes. Which is probably them being paid off in some form. Hiding behind "opinion" doesn't work when it makes you look bipolar. I won't say Mazaon reviews are perfect but generally the top rated ones tend to be pretty spot on.

Those of us who paid $60 for a new game or $80 for the CE really got fooled. Maybe it's worth the $60 if youenjoy the multiplayer component. But the singleplayer has some pretty glaring issues that seem evident ME3 was really rushed out sooner then it should have been. Sure ME1 and ME2 had problems of their own, but ME3 still feels and look likes it is in a Beta stage in some cases. The ending(s) just happen to be the most glaring issue and this is where it's real easy to tell where something went wrong as the ending is definitely a rush job of some kind.


It's unfortunate as ME3 really should have been the most polished of the 3 games. It's glitchiness just about trumps ME1which itself is frightening. ME3 is certainly the first time I've experienced conversation animation issues though. Which is pretty appalling if not an immersion wrecking ball. You know a combat bug or glitching into the environment when I'm just walking around is one thing. But literally on the 360 version some of the conversations are just plain effed up. As far I know though the patches have done nothing to address these issues.

Yeah, one of the first dialogues with Liara on the Normandy and Shepard's head is turning like an owl.  ME1 didn't have this much of a mess, it was mostly frame rate issues/popping textures.  ME3 on the other hand... haha.

[wolfstanus]

Wish amazon had a filter so you had to have bought the game through them in order to rate and make reviews. 90% of the reviews are bandwagon knee jerk upset because they took or to seriously. And expected a trailer like the halo trailers as actual gameplay and Miriam's of other stpoid thing. Including the thinking the game is the worst in video game history. There's 5 stars for a reason. 3 star is what me3 is. 90% of the game is AWESOME! Except the ending... 1 star derp :E

[Cainne Chapel]

lillitheris wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I can only facepalm at letting yourself be led by the opinions of others.

This is quite true.

I can’t even count the amazing experiences I have missed out on, listening to others’ opinions.

I never even stuck a fork in a wall socket, something I always regret. I should probably take up smoking to give it a go…or maybe opium?

Youre..... very jaded aren't you?

[Oilking72]

Why are people so simple? Play the effing game for yourself and make your own judgement. "I'm so glad they saved me from playing this game.". What utter bs.

[CARL_DF90]

A very wise decision OP. I'd hold off until reviews come in for EC at the very least.

[lillitheris]

Oilking72 wrote...

Why are people so simple? Play the effing game for yourself and make your own judgement. "I'm so glad they saved me from playing this game.". What utter bs.

Your argument would be valid were the game free of charge, or if it could be returned with a full refund.

It’s perfectly valid to do research before making a purchase, rather than just buying it and hoping that it works, and is actually fit for whatever purpose you intended it.

[The Spamming Troll]

merrick97 wrote...

I am amazed that people still say that 95% of the game is great, its just that the ending is bad.

Yet everyone ignores:

1. The bad journal system
2. The lack of branched dialogue
3. Story cop-outs (Rachni queen anyone?)
4. The horrible beginning
5. The HORRIBLE HORRIBLE eavesdropping fetch quests that got you meaningless war assets.
6. The lack of actual sidequests

and for me the biggest issue was:

6. The linearity.

Its just that the endings are so bad that it makes us ignore the games other faults.


Still its worth a rent.

this is exactly whats dissapointing about the game.

its only worth the rental.

[darksider55]

lillitheris wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I can only facepalm at letting yourself be led by the opinions of others.

This is quite true.

I can’t even count the amazing experiences I have missed out on, listening to others’ opinions.

I never even stuck a fork in a wall socket, something I always regret. I should probably take up smoking to give it a go…or maybe opium?

This quote is not true..r u kidding me your saying that hearing someone else's piont of view is a complete waste of time,like someone else's opinion is nvr good and will nvr help you...yeah ok sure wateva..

hey  alot of pls opinion's have changed the world.

Modifié par darksider55, 07 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[CARL_DF90]

Plus, it is only common sense to do a little homework before making a purchase.

[Guldor]

Good on you for saving yourself hard-earned money. Im sure everyone who criticizes your decision is jealous that they didnt have the wisdom to do their homework first, instead of blindly purchasing everything Bioware does. You're probably the most intelligent of us all.

[Ghost]

NightAntilli wrote...

- ME1 had barren planets which were tedious to explore, shooting mechanics were crap, cover mechanics were crap, all classes played almost the same, had a bunch of time-wasting elevator rides, terrible performance and pop-in issues, tedious inventory and skill tree system, weapons overheating bug, getting stuck in environments, annoying mini-games..
- ME2 had almost no RPG mechanics whatsoever, main story sucked compared to ME1, was mainly a bunch of side quests, planet scanning was a drag (imo worse than mako), barely any exploration because of small locations, awful loading times, repetitive mini games, predictable fighting environments, being stuck in environments, apathetic characters (barely interacted with each other), lack of weapons and armor.
- ME3 has inferior journal, less exploration than ME1, confusing ending, glitches like teleporting characters, lip-sync issues, too much disc swapping (X360 only), too many shallow side quests.

On the flipside..

- ME1 had the best overall story, the most exploration, the deepest RPG elements, the most immersion.
- ME2 had improved shooting mechanics, better sidequests, better DLC support, better performance, better animations in conversations, better graphics, better action, better and more character support, each class was really unique.
- ME3 had improved cover-based mechanics over ME2, more verticality in gameplay, more cinematic moments, more variety in enemies, more emotional peaks and valleys, slightly deeper RPG elements than ME2, bigger Citadel, best interaction between characters, more variety in weapons..


I apologize if I forgot anything on any of the games. But point is....

Reading what you people (and people on sites like Amazon) are saying and comparing it to the pros and cons of all three, it doesn't seem that you all hate ME3 because it's actually worse. It's because you disliked the ending that you're nitpicking about everything in ME3, even if it's superior than the prior ones in many (if not most) ways. Or are the issues of the other two listed above somehow irrelevant? You can easily love ME3 for what it is and simply forget about the ending for a second, but you've chosen otherwise. I don't really get the hate for ME3 specifically while the other ones also had huge flaws, if not bigger flaws... But whatever.

-I only had to switch twice for ME3 

-ME3 has way better graphics than the past two entries. 

[Cruders]

Kinste wrote...

Oh I wish it were different. The reviews I've read share how wonderful 95% of ME3 is, and deplore the endings. I can't bring myself to play it...

I won't be buying this game, Bioware. I'm disappointed already.

-a series fan with many hours sunk into ME1 and ME2

You could try buying it from Canada... I hear it's already at a 50% price reduction. Though I agree with the comment of waiting until after the EC dlc.

[CARL_DF90]

Maker only knows just how much in sales the ending fisaco has cost them in sales.

[darksider55]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

Maker only knows just how much in sales the ending fisaco has cost them in sales.

not much i read it beat ME2 sales,plus u might have some peeps making purchase in mp.. (who eva does that is a tool)