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[nuculerman]

Liber320 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Liber320 wrote...

Ionce saw a guy using a GI who could kill a phantom in 2-3 heavy melee pulses on silver. He would just cloak, run into the middle of the biggest mob and a few seconds later they became so much blue sludge

I seriously can't wait to unlock this character

Was it on Xbox?
Probably me. Don't see anyone else using these amazing builds!

It was

An annoying build to play with, since it can kill pretty much anything faster than you, but seems like it would be awesome to play as

For some people maybe.  It's even more dangerous than a novaguard though.  You have to be totally situationally aware, because you are very definition of a glass cannon.  I tried it and it's definitely not my play style.  I stick with the GPS build.  I can still two shot phantoms on gold, so I'm never looking back.

[D4rk50ul808]

nuculerman wrote...

Liber320 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Liber320 wrote...

Ionce saw a guy using a GI who could kill a phantom in 2-3 heavy melee pulses on silver. He would just cloak, run into the middle of the biggest mob and a few seconds later they became so much blue sludge

I seriously can't wait to unlock this character

Was it on Xbox?
Probably me. Don't see anyone else using these amazing builds!

It was

An annoying build to play with, since it can kill pretty much anything faster than you, but seems like it would be awesome to play as

For some people maybe.  It's even more dangerous than a novaguard though.  You have to be totally situationally aware, because you are very definition of a glass cannon.  I tried it and it's definitely not my play style.  I stick with the GPS build.  I can still two shot phantoms on gold, so I'm never looking back.

Changed the build name to avoid unintended attention.

I agree the melee build is insanely powerful but its so fragile that one misstep can cause death. It is a ton of fun but doesn't work very well for me because I like to be the one the team can count on to finish a wave if they all get downed.  This build is much more survivable and honestly not much slower at killing enemies maybe even faster.  Hopefully I can hook up with someone who posts video on youtube like Wild Snorlax to show the potential of this setup, or get a capture card myself to demonstrate some of the builds that I write.

This build isn't as annoying because it can be played within the teams strategy as well as lone wolf.  You can easily take on whatever role the team requires at the time.  To the previous poster asking how the Scorpion gets the cloaked damage, I still am unsure.  I can say that after a proxy mine almost every enemy simply explodes into mush when a Scorpion mine goes off and those left over die to the second proxy mine 2-3 seconds later.

[VTX SPARTAN]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

I score around 200k a game so the DPS is fine.

Bull excriment.

[D4rk50ul808]

VTX SPARTAN wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

I score around 200k a game so the DPS is fine.

Bull excriment.

Doesn't happen all the time but I'd say average 160k-200k is about right.  I will hopefully be posting videos and pictures of the build soon.  I'm not the first person to score this as I'm sure many have, I've done it before the XP boost and its much easier since they increased random/random's rewards.

[animemaniac]

I can vouch for this build, although mine is slightly different. I play on the PC and I happen to mess around with classes on my own and arrive to something similar to this. I was shocked at the DPS I got so I decided to google if anyone was doing the same thing (how I found this thread), so far I have not played with anyone that has the same setup or uses the scorpion for the matter.


I am currently saving credits so I have zero equipment but on average I hit 140k on Gold at Firebase White without equipment or cobras. All my random teamates usually do not hit more than 60k with or without the use of cobras.
Ideally I play this class as the guy who activates all the triggers, prevents flanking by the geth from the top left stairs on Firebase White or flanking in general, crowd control and the main revive guy also.


It is easy to get carried away with this class, firstly because it is seriously OP, secondly because you're geth; seeing through walls you tend to think you see everything but if you don't pay attention you get flanked from the sides or even the back. Thirdly depanding on how you spec your character you could be what you guys term "Glass Cannon".


I usually die a lot on my first match of the day; taking too many risks and suffering from the OP after effect from the day before. After that though, I usually take a fall or too or non at all. One down side of this class is that your teammates have it too easy, and if somehow you die and you have a lousy or "ok" team, they will suddenly be overwhelmed and usually result in a failed mission. And because of your crazy DPS there will be a minority that become pissed and try to do more than what their class is capable of, taking unecessary risk  or breaking spawn points on FB: White by going all the way up (enemies will then spawn behind teammates)


This build is great to use, requires low precision but instead focus on situation awareness, (all geth class in general) creative and calculated use of your prox mine and scorpion mines, understanding on how the different mines deal damage. You can reach objectives the fastest, reach the fallen the fastest, dps mobs the fastest but sadly your javelin geth infiltrators will have prime for breakfast. All in all, know your limits; you're not a tank, don't be a douch, guard your teammates flank, do the objectives, DPS the sh!t out of everything, save the fallen where possible and have FUN!...and if you're a headphone user be prepared for having boom, boom boom stuck in your head.

Modifié par animemaniac, 09 mai 2012 - 03:22 .

[D4rk50ul808]

Ok so these are a couple games I played today with very good teammates and friends of mine.  We just ran around the maps killing things on random/random/gold.  Unfortunately with our luck we got FBWGG.  I am sorry my phone camera is a pain to get good shots with, our game times were around 23-26mins as we really had no strategy.  Next time I will try to get the entire screen in the shot while still being able to read the numbers, and possibly a video.






This isn't exceptional games or anything like that, and I didn't make anyone stay anywhere in particular to rack up kills and points.  We play for fun and XP/Credits, there is no pre-set team makeup or anything we just choose what we feel like playing.  Rarely is everyone at L20 sometimes we have very low levels in the game.  So those who keep saying its impossible to get 200k can obviously shh now.

Edit: Patriot is one of the guys I play with all the time, he is top 5 in the world on Xbox 360 leaderboards and a crazy good player.   I attribute a lot of the gap in points to my level being higher and the build just being a monster.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 09 mai 2012 - 03:25 .

[Disciple888]

damn Darksoul that's boss. The highest score I've ever gotten with a Geth Infil was 130K, and everyone else in my party only had 30K each by extraction (which I was the Lone Survivor of)!

EDIT: WHICH

Modifié par Disciple888, 09 mai 2012 - 03:24 .

[animemaniac]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Ok so these are a couple games I played today with very good teammates and friends of mine.  We just ran around the maps killing things on random/random/gold.  Unfortunately with our luck we got FBWGG.  I am sorry my phone camera is a pain to get good shots with, our game times were around 23-26mins as we really had no strategy.  Next time I will try to get the entire screen in the shot while still being able to read the numbers, and possibly a video.






This isn't exceptional games or anything like that, and I didn't make anyone stay anywhere in particular to rack up kills and points.  We play for fun and XP/Credits, there is no pre-set team makeup or anything we just choose what we feel like playing.  Rarely is everyone at L20 sometimes we have very low levels in the game.  So those who keep saying its impossible to get 200k can obviously shh now.

I want to see the time on this.

[Disciple888]

I'm guessing you farmed the Enemy Targets waves, right? I think that's the only way to reach such a high score. I also manage aggro by killing off lesser enemies so that bosses don't respawn.

[D4rk50ul808]

animemaniac wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Ok so these are a couple games I played today with very good teammates and friends of mine.  We just ran around the maps killing things on random/random/gold.  Unfortunately with our luck we got FBWGG.  I am sorry my phone camera is a pain to get good shots with, our game times were around 23-26mins as we really had no strategy.  Next time I will try to get the entire screen in the shot while still being able to read the numbers, and possibly a video.






This isn't exceptional games or anything like that, and I didn't make anyone stay anywhere in particular to rack up kills and points.  We play for fun and XP/Credits, there is no pre-set team makeup or anything we just choose what we feel like playing.  Rarely is everyone at L20 sometimes we have very low levels in the game.  So those who keep saying its impossible to get 200k can obviously shh now.

I want to see the time on this.

I know I'm sorry my phone camera SUCKS at taking TV pics.  I think FWBGG was 24:30ish due to a really bad objective round, and Glacier was around 21-22 minutes.  If we actually use strategy we can pull sub 22min runs regularly, although we are much better vs Reapers than the other two factions.

@Disciple888 We didn't prolong the objective waves we try to get them done as fast as possible, we are credit hounds.  You can clearly see the credits earned so you know we didn't delay them.  We didn't attempt to "pad" our score in any way, the only thing we do is grab our killstreaks at the extract wave so we get that 15k xp for those of us who promote (not me).  The +40% xp bonus for random/random has really ramped up the amount of total XP you can gain.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 09 mai 2012 - 08:51 .

[D4rk50ul808]

Xcals video of this build in action

I am not able to make videos but luckily someone copied this build and did make a video for it.  It can be played more effectively with practice so results like the video should be expected as a base line as you learn the class.

If this isn't enough for you I will try to make a video myself showing 200k+ games when I can.  Also recommend the GPS secondary as its much better for hard targets.  To all those people who said use the Falcon or bust... yeah.. ok.. I think I found its twin brother.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 12 mai 2012 - 06:34 .

[Disciple888]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Xcals video of this build in action

I am not able to make videos but luckily someone copied this build and did make a video for it.  It can be played more effectively with practice so results like the video should be expected as a base line as you learn the class.

If this isn't enough for you I will try to make a video myself showing 200k+ games when I can.  Also recommend the GPS secondary as its much better for hard targets.  To all those people who said use the Falcon... yeah.. ok..

haha Falcon builds can own, but GPS is better against bosses and is all-purpose

[D4rk50ul808]

Disciple888 wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Xcals video of this build in action

I am not able to make videos but luckily someone copied this build and did make a video for it.  It can be played more effectively with practice so results like the video should be expected as a base line as you learn the class.

If this isn't enough for you I will try to make a video myself showing 200k+ games when I can.  Also recommend the GPS secondary as its much better for hard targets.  To all those people who said use the Falcon... yeah.. ok..

haha Falcon builds can own, but GPS is better against bosses and is all-purpose

This build is based off the Scorpion, the GPS is a secondary weapon for hard targets.  Kinda meh that someone "Created" a build I've been using for a long time and published a week ago, but at least it shuts up the nay sayers.  Not real happy about the fact that every time I go to play after the first game everyone switches to the Scorpion.  It's far less effective on other classes.

[Disciple888]

Interesting. I use only the GPS, and I can log 200K+ (thanks for the tip about random/random!). Is the Scorpion really that much better? I have a Scorpion II, dunno if it would pack the right amount of punch.

[D4rk50ul808]

Disciple888 wrote...Interesting. I use only the GPS, and I can log 200K+ (thanks for the tip about random/random!). Is the Scorpion really that much better? I have a Scorpion II, dunno if it would pack the right amount of punch.

Use them both as descibed in the guide. just got 3 killstreaks with it in one game. For single target heavies or guardians the GPS is great. For everything else the scorpion rules supreme for group DPS. There isn't an Asari in the world who can match the destruction it causes.

[DieselL]

I dont know if this build is the only reason for getting 200k !
I think it is more that you are a very skilled player !
I wish we could have solo mode , to get more credits/xp !

[D4rk50ul808]

DieselL wrote...I dont know if this build is the only reason for getting 200k !I think it is more that you are a very skilled player !I wish we could have solo mode , to get more credits/xp !

I'm not going to say that I'm not, but this build is so strong it makes up for developing skill levels and even newer players. Just practice the timings and before you know it you will be running into full spawns and walking out with a killstreak unharmed.

[spudspot]

Ok, I just tried the Scorpion as host in a silver match, not even with this particular build (similar).

I am clearly not a good player.

I easily scored 100k+, time was around 16min I think. I have to say it was Glacier against Cerberus, which is like the dream combo of this build I guess, but hell, that was amazing...

So I think 200k is doable on gold if you are used to the playstyle. 

Btw: I don't really see the need for the GPS though. Atlases are wonderful targets for PM and the Scorpion. One mag and everything around is more than dead, which means you have plenty of time dealing with the Atlas. Or you can just continue your killing spree somewhere else and leave it to the rest of your squad. 

Modifié par spudspot, 11 mai 2012 - 09:01 .

[D4rk50ul808]

Scorpion is not good vs banshees, brutes, etc. You need the Gps for these guys. It can be done with pure scorpion but its less efficient.

[Feneckus]

 How is it even possible to score 470k total XP ? Most games I'm in don't go above 320k.

[Disciple888]

Feneckus wrote...

 How is it even possible to score 470k total XP ? Most games I'm in don't go above 320k.

Random/Random gives you a 40% exp boost.

[spudspot]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Scorpion is not good vs banshees, brutes, etc. You need the Gps for these guys. It can be done with pure scorpion but its less efficient.

After doing some gold rounds with it, I agree with you... I'll try to handle the CD then (i.e. getting used to not use cloak so often).

[Geist.H]

Falcon/Scorpion's AoE give you a tons of Assists, I would be surprised if a reload cancelling/proxi GI player scored below 100k. As OP said, once you got the feel of the class, it's really simple.

A good build/guide, I prefer the Falcon equivalent but the scorpion definitely deserves the attention. Both struggle against bosses so listen to OP and grab a GPS along !

Modifié par Geist.H, 11 mai 2012 - 03:06 .

[D4rk50ul808]

spudspot wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...Scorpion is not good vs banshees, brutes, etc. You need the Gps for these guys. It can be done with pure scorpion but its less efficient.

After doing some gold rounds with it, I agree with you... I'll try to handle the CD then (i.e. getting used to not use cloak so often).

Its not about cloaking less, its about staying cloaked for less time. If you keep your cloaked time under 3 seconds you can do it constantly and I highly recommend doing it. You just want to avoid running around the map cloaked looking for the enemy because once you find them and start your DPS rotation you will have to suffer through 7+seconds of cooldown. This is a quick react extremely aggressive style of play that a 7 second CD can and will kill you.

If you are on Xbox I'd be happy to run some games to show the different tactics and how to be the most effective. There are a lot of things you can get away with that would kill most builds such as charging into phantoms, etc.

Geist.H wrote...

Falcon/Scorpion's AoE give you a tons of
Assists, I would be surprised if a reload cancelling/proxi GI player
scored below 100k. As OP said, once you got the feel of the class, it's
really simple.

A good build/guide, I prefer the Falcon equivalent
but the scorpion definitely deserves the attention. Both struggle
against bosses so listen to OP and grab a GPS along !

Thanks for the thumbs up, you are right it really is quite easy.  I think going from the 100-140k up to 180-210k is where the skill with the build comes into play.  I still haven't learned to effectively use the Falcon due to the amount of duds I get on Xbox but I've seen it used to great effect.  If you look at the screen shots kills outweigh assists with this setup, I still am not sure why but some kind of space magic happens when you combine the cloak/proxy/scorpion and things just blow up into little chunks instantly.  If you are aggressive enough you could literally leave nothing left for your team to even shoot at.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 12 mai 2012 - 12:32 .

[astheoceansblue]

Darn, great minds think alike...

Just messed about with the Scorpion on my GI. Reapers/Glacier. 

Just unlocked it, and this was with the Scorpion only, and it was my first go, but damn it's fun on a CQC map! Wasn't being anywhere near as efficient as I could be so I didn't hit the kind of scores the OP shows, but with a little practise I can see this thing dominating.

I don't really like using the GI simply because it's too powerful, but this gun makes it far too tempting.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 12 mai 2012 - 09:43 .