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[Blest HR]

tactical cloak 5 damage/recharge speed
proximity mines 6 damage/damage taken/damage
hunter mode 6 power recharge/power damage/damage
network ai 6 weapon damage/power damage/weapon damage
advanced hardware 3

pistol amp level 3
power amplifier 3
cyro ammo 3

this set-up would be alot better for it and works well with scorpion X would use it till 10 if playing on gold. Also you have to be host for the scorpion

Modifié par Blest HR, 12 mai 2012 - 09:53 .

[D4rk50ul808]

astheoceansblue wrote...

Darn, great minds think alike...

Just messed about with the Scorpion on my GI. Reapers/Glacier. 

Just
unlocked it, and this was with the Scorpion only, and it was my first
go, but damn it's fun on a CQC map! Wasn't being anywhere near as
efficient as I could be so I didn't hit the kind of scores the OP shows,
but with a little practise I can see this thing dominating.

I don't really like using the GI simply because it's too powerful, but this gun makes it far too tempting.

Its really fun and can work on large maps because you can insta stagger anything with the proxy then never let them move once the blue nukes start going off..  It's good times and since you have a shotty as a backup you really aren't limited to one style of play.  On PC I would take the Claymore because of the ability to reload cancel.  Nice game

We managed a 16 minute run last night on our first "speed run" attempt on Glacier vs Cerberus.  We have plans to actually plan it out and go for a better time though without being on PC its tough due to the lack of reload cancelling.  The build isn't gimped by non host but laggy host can definitely make it not so great.

Blest HR wrote...

tactical cloak 5 damage/recharge speed
proximity mines 6 damage/damage taken/damage
hunter mode 6 power recharge/power damage/damage
network ai 6 weapon damage/power damage/weapon damage
advanced hardware 3

pistol amp level 3
power amplifier 3
cyro ammo 3

this set-up would be alot better for it and works well with scorpion X would use it till 10 if playing on gold. Also you have to be host for the scorpion

You don't need recharge speed it will do nothing for you except for when you need to stay cloaked the entire duration such as a disarm objective.  The rate of fire on hunter mode is what makes this so OP its not quite the same beast without it, the damage over speed and vision is personal preference.  You could switch Network AI power damage for weapon but I like to get my proxy as powerful as possible while still having ROF.  Also the tech bursts from Disruptor or Incendiary ammo are superior to having extra CC from cryo that you don't need, since nothing lives long enough to require being frozen.

In short it's not better, but more power to you for doing it your way.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 12 mai 2012 - 10:46 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

I have to say after playing with this build for a bit that it's a really good build, very effective especially vs cerberus and geth and on smaller maps. Scorpion infiltrator on glacier is pretty hilarious. My build is pretty much identical to yours except I have netoowrked AI 6 with power damage/weapon damage and only 4 points in fitness, I don't find the lack of fitness to be that big a deal.

Too bad the scorpion sucks off host ;(

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 12 mai 2012 - 10:49 .

[MysticH]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Scorpion infiltrator on glacier is pretty hilarious.

Totally agree

[D4rk50ul808]

If you think Glacier is funny, try a map like Condor... or Giant... Actually any map that you can predict the spawn points or keep them spawning in the same place..

For maximum Lulz fire a few scorpion shots into the spawn on your approach from long range and cloak right before you reach them, proxy and do the circle dance in the middle of everyone shooting the floor. If you took the speed and vision evolution you can do circle dances around turrets, phantoms, hunters, etc while shooting the floor and never getting touched. Of course the end of your dance party is an enemy turning into a pile of chunks so you are constantly looking for a new dance floor.

[Equinoxe4]

Thanks for the build. I tried it today and it is so much fun. Currently I do less points than with only a GPS, but I am still learning. Also, correct me if I am wrong, but those 200k points do come from keeping the pressure up on spawn points during objectives and the resulting constant supply of fresh victims, right?

[D4rk50ul808]

Equinoxe4 wrote...





Thanks for the build. I tried it today and it is so much fun. Currently I do less points than with only a GPS, but I am still learning. Also, correct me if I am wrong, but those 200k points do come from keeping the pressure up on spawn points during objectives and the resulting constant supply of fresh victims, right?

Well not really. During a hack enemies tend to come from two or so set directions. If you learn the best place to ambush you can continually launch scorpion and proxy mines into their path killing them all and allowing your team to focus down the other entrance points. You can do this while staying in the circle.





Most of my points and team contributions come from the fact that I never have to stop running. If a teammate gets downed with 4 phantoms camping his body I can stealth right in the middle and nuke them all up close and personal. Also any choke points become a death trap and usually result in killstreaks.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 14 mai 2012 - 12:37 .

[animemaniac]

Umm I tried your build with the GPS but I keep hitting 150k at most. My own build with just the scorpion I can hit about 190k - 200k. No equipment used, have none at the moment.

I notice when I use the GPS build, the 1st 3 waves I usually use just the scorpion the later waves I just use the scorpion at the start of the wave then GPS all the way through. Normally are you the main designated trigger activator? Cause I usually play with randoms and majority of the time I'm the only infiltrator or if there is another they just snipe till kingdom comes.

My first time using the GPS so that could be the reason for me doing so poorly. This is what I usually do, charge GSP, cloak, proxy, shoot, shoot.

My combo is usually cloak, shoot and proxy at the same time then empty my scorpion.

Modifié par animemaniac, 14 mai 2012 - 03:52 .

[Oodle12]

I would use the scorpion but It get affected by lag too much.

[animemaniac]

I only play as host with randoms, not that hard to get teammates on the PC.

[D4rk50ul808]

The extra weight does nothing unless you stay cloaked too long. I tend to use the scorpion when enemies are grouped up, just spawned, standing over my teammates body, or are unarmored. If its a solo enemy I switch to GPS. Its the ability to be an aoe powerhouse AND a single target DPS monster that makes this build so effective.





The biggest issue I find is when teammates try to keep up with you when you do map sweeps. They tend to play overly aggressive to try to outdo your kills and end up wiping. If you aren't host just lay off the rate of fire a tiny bit and it works fine, unless the connection is just trash.





I cloak then fire my proxy into the center mass of enemies while running in spamming scorpion. I like to be right in the middle of them.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 14 mai 2012 - 03:59 .

[UserUnknown85]

Well I thought I might add my two cents.

Recently I have been putting my respec cards to good use, testing for myself the various GI builds out there (melee only, shotgun/melee, falcon, ...)

While the melee build is a lot of fun, even with some practice i still found myself dying a bit too much for my liking (there's no real way around it because you bring down your own shields). I switched to the falcon, and while the stagger is nice the damage is really poor.

Then i tried the scorpion... Loads of fun turning mooks into mush. While experimenting I also found that hosting really improves the damage output. The scorpion still works off-host but it will deal a lot less damage (blanks...). Hosting, it will deal about as much damage as a melee GI but without risking anything since you see everything and can basically shoot around corners without exposing yourself

I use the claymore though. The GPS is really nice but its another host-dependent weapon (even more so than the scorpion). The claymore lets you join games and is perfectly viable on its own.

My scorpion is only level III and destroys averything already. I suspect a level X gun would mostly be useful for the extra ammo...

Have fun with it!

[Drawrof]

This last weekends banshee challenge was loads of fun with this build. The speed with adrenaline mod is a blast. Poor little reaper spawns didn't know what hit them. As my scorpion is my first and only ultra rare X I think it appropriate to honor the store random gods with its use. Some matches I forgot to switch to the gps.

All I can say is thanks darksoul.

[Zso_Zso]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...
Don't cloak until you are ready to fire. Cloak then immediately proxy mine followed by shooting. Should recharge quickly.

Excuse my noobishness, but I do not understand how this can work...
You run with level 4 tactical cloak, but only level 6 has to option to use another power while cloacked, and I though the cooldown only starts after uncloaking. So how can you fire proxy mine while cloaked with level 4 TC ?

[UserUnknown85]

Cloak still gives a damage boost for what I believe is 2 seconds after the animation of you reappearing. If you are quick about it you can get a couple of shots out.

Though I don't believe anyone knows the interaction with delayed proxy mine explosions.

[Drawrof]

The mechanics are that the time spent in cloak is about the recharge speed. Therefore, you cloak, quickly fire proxy mine at mobs. The firing of proxy breaks cloak, but cloak benefits linger for short time. Rapidly unload clip. By the time you've fired and reloaded you tactical cloak and proxy should be ready to use again. Rinse and repeat. The cloak/proxy/fire cycle takes less than 5 seconds.

Whatever you do, don't take the fire power while cloaked evolution as it won't break the cloak and cycle will take longer.

[D4rk50ul808]

I updated the Guide with an Advanced player build. After testing I found a way to use the Claymore instead of the GPS and still get solid timings using reload cancels. Its probably the final incarnation of this build as there is really nothing I can think of that would make it more effective. I highly recommend using the original setup if you aren't comfortable constantly cancelling reloads, managing your CD's, etc.

Enjoy.

[BlackDahlia424]

To the creator of this build - you are a god. Seriously, I have never dominated matches like this before, it's just ridiculous. Just played a silver game and got over 110,000 points. It's sick.

[D4rk50ul808]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...To the creator of this build - you are a god. Seriously, I have never dominated matches like this before, it's just ridiculous. Just played a silver game and got over 110,000 points. It's sick.

Thanks. Remember to support your team and not get totally carried away with the destruction. It can be annoying for teammates to have nothing to do. Be the hero by reviving them, and maybe just cover a certain portion of the map.

[jupitersj]

I've played with D4rk50ul and Patriot before(with my Salarian Engineer and Asari Adept), they are the real deal; mobs just get vapourized. Also, they encouraged team effort and not to worry about my score as much...I had a blast that whole night

[GreenFalcon13]

Im gonna re-spec my GI and try this out. I love the scorpion and Ive been having a hard time figuring out which class would work well with it.

[Xendless]

lol wrong thread

Modifié par Xendless, 27 mai 2012 - 08:43 .

[Kasrkin]

This looks like an excellent build. I'll have to respec and try this.

Scorpion @ 1 though ; ;