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Lesson One: Sheer volume of questions doesn't legitimise any of them. You just asked 25 questions which were meant to show plotholes ... and you only managed ONE legitimate plothole complaint. In fact, after about 8 questions you just broke down and started saying things you wanted to see but weren't in the game ... which isn't a plothole, that's just "I wanted something and they didn't give me it". Why not just list "no little blue babies" as a plothole if that's the route you're going down.

People like you make the entire Retake movement look bad, because any legitimate complaints against the endings are ignored in favour of attacking your ridiculously easily dimissed and refuted claims.


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I don't know man, in my game the relays blow up before the Normandy scene, and then I saw my ship leaving me in the peak of the battle for no ****ing reason whatsoever. I probably just got the wrong game or something.

Head cannon all you want, it doesn't equal logic.


They all blew up as once? The normandy followed you? Yes you did pick up the wrong game.You should try playing me3, it's boss. :)

The beam from the Citadel reaches the relay almost instantaneous. The Relay starts overcharging and blows up dransfering the beam to the next relay. Then you see Joker trying to get away from it. So now.
1. Joker had to go into the relay before the beam from the Citadel.
2. Joker is running away in conventional FTL, in which case he shouldn't have realy made it that far from Sol.

Now the questions:
If we follow your retarded logic, what the **** was Joker doing standing near the Pluto relay?
Why would he leave me and take my crew? Joker and the crew would never do that. Its either do or die, no running away.





There is only one relay near earth and thats all dust

The Super secret project wasn't created in the sol system so joker would've had to move to help escort said project to the citadel. Logic huh?

Why would he be siting up in space with a war raging waiting for shep to call and say hes done shopping and needs pick up? :)

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Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?

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The beam from the Citadel reaches the relay almost instantaneous.

Um ... no it doesn't. I have literally no idea where you got that from.

Watch the endings again. The initial beam which emanates from the Crucible travels quite, quite slowly. In fact, in the worst ending, you can see it moving over the surface of the Earth at a quite leisurely pace. The fast beam which reaches the relay almost instantly is released later in a great big explosion. Are you saying the Normandy can't fly fast enough to overtake that first wave?

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Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.

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i'm pretty sure Joker said he would be join Sword Fleet before Shepard goes to London. I could be wrong though

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The beam from the Citadel reaches the relay almost instantaneous.

Um ... no it doesn't. I have literally no idea where you got that from.

Watch the endings again. The initial beam which emanates from the Crucible travels quite, quite slowly. In fact, in the worst ending, you can see it moving over the surface of the Earth at a quite leisurely pace. The fast beam which reaches the relay almost instantly is released later in a great big explosion. Are you saying the Normandy can't fly fast enough to overtake that first wave?

Actually you should watch the endings again, in the control one there is no second beam, its just the first one it would seem it reaches the Sol relay just as fast. In the other 2 endings, the interval between the wave and the beam is like 40 seconds at best, so if than is enough time for Joker to make the decision and the Normandy to make a 180 and go from Earth to Pluto, I would be quite amazed.

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1. How did the Citadel get to Earth? I didn't know it could move
A. The Reapers are god-like machines, but they can't move the Citadel?

2. Why would Harbinger leave before confirming Shepard was dead?
Why would it care about Shepard in particular? There's a fleet of warships battling above him, what makes one ground troop special, hm?

3. Why did your scout say that everyone had fallen but there was a person crawling on the battlefield, Shepard was alive and Anderson also apparently made it behind you.
He never said everyone fell. He said the ground forces had been decimated and no-one had made it to the beam (which they hadn't when he'd said that).

4. How does Anderson reach the console before you? There appears to be only one way into that control room.
He's Indoctrinated.

5. How does the Illusive Man control Shepard?
Indoctrination.

6. How does the Illusive Man control Anderson?
Indoctrination.

7. Why is Shepard bleeding out his left side when he was never shot there and that was where he shot Anderson?
Big frickin' laser hit him? Did you miss that?

8. The Star Child
What?

9. Why would you create Synthetics to kill organcis to protect them from synthetics?
Because synthetics which kill some organics is better than synthetics which kill ALL organics. Which is what the Reaper's cycles are designed to prevent ever happening.

10. Why must I destroy all synthetic life?
You don't. You have two other options.

11. Why is the Star Child even there, with his horrible logic, if I am just to assume he is lying.
Why would you assume he was lying?

12. How do your squadmates get onto the Normandy?
Who knows? Genuine plothole, probably going to be fixed in the EC.

13. Why is Joker running away from an explosion?
Why WOULDN'T Joker run away from an explosion? He's not an idiot.

14. Why is Joker now on a planet somewhere with my crew and my ship?
Did you miss the bit where he the Normandy got flung out of the mass relay corridor? The Normandy crash landed.

15. How does me jumping into a beam of light fuse all life on the genetic level?
It fuses Shepard's DNA with synthetic material to create synthetic DNA and spreads it across the galaxy wth the wave. That's not a plothole, that's at worst just silly writing.

       a. The codex does not explain this either.
The codex is mean to explain everything for you?

16. The Sword fleet is stranded in the Sol system?
Yes. Not a plothole.

17. The Mass Relays are destroyed... did it wipe out all life in the galaxy since it has been confirmed that the destruction of a mass relay can wipe out an entire system?
No. Blowing up a relay and releasing its energy destroys an entire system. The relays' energy has all gone into making the wave.

18.Why is Downloadable Content the last words you see?
To sell downloadable content to you. Not a plothole.

19. Do the Quarians and Turians, who cannot eat human food starve?
Who knows? Not a plothole.

20. What happens to my Love Interest?
They live their life out on the planet. Not a plothole.

21. If I save the Rachni, why do I not see them contribute to the final battle?
Why do you need to? Not a plothole.

22. Why does Harbinger not make an appearance at the end to taunt me like in ME2?
Why does he need to? Not a plothole.

23. RGB explosions
What about them? Not a plothole.

24. Shepard taking a breath in London at the end.
What about it? Not a plothole.

25. WHY are the choices of the other games not taken into account to decide how the game ends?
They are. Just not in the final decision which stands for itself. Not a plothole.

Lesson One: Sheer volume of questions doesn't legitimise any of them. You just asked 25 questions which were meant to show plotholes ... and you only managed ONE legitimate plothole complaint. In fact, after about 8 questions you just broke down and started saying things you wanted to see but weren't in the game ... which isn't a plothole, that's just "I wanted something and they didn't give me it". Why not just list "no little blue babies" as a plothole if that's the route you're going down.

People like you make the entire Retake movement look bad, because any legitimate complaints against the endings are ignored in favour of attacking your ridiculously easily dimissed and refuted claims.


Just because you say they aren't plotholes doesn't make them not plotholes. We've already been over this.
A plothole is a concept in a story that can't be explained by any other plot point in the story.

1) Shepard back on Earth taking a breath after being vaporized into dust makes NO SENSE. There is no logical argument you can make that can refute this being a plothole.

2) Star Child's Reaper Logic - We are synthetics that kill and harvest organics to save them from being killed by synthetics. This is a logical fallacy in it's purest definition. Logical fallacies can not be explained to be anything other that illogical gibberish, which forms a plothole.

3) The squadmate that are with you on Earth that got hit by Harbinger's beam should be dead or severly injured. There is no explaination as to how they also were transported back to the Normandy unscathed. This is a plothole.

4) If Joker was able to rescue those squadmates there is no explaination as to how he was also able to escape the destruction of the blast wave.

5) If you picked the option to destroy all synthetic lifeforms, and the Normandy gets hit with the blast wave. There is no explaination as to how EDI managed to survive. This is a plothole.

You BioWare extremist fans can try to dismiss these plotholes by waving your hands and saying, "No they aren't plotholes because hurdur I said so." But you're not a ****ing Jedi, and you can't just wave your hands in the air and make it make sense. It doesn't work like that. In fact the more you do just that, the dumber you all look in the eyes of ANYONE with common sense, a brain, and who can think for themselves.

But nice try.

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Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.

"Who said he was fighting after drop off?"
Joker does: 09:30
 

Shows how much attention you have been paying to the game.

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Emzamination wrote...

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Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.


Seemed pretty front line against Sovereign.

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The beam from the Citadel reaches the relay almost instantaneous.

Um ... no it doesn't. I have literally no idea where you got that from.

Watch the endings again. The initial beam which emanates from the Crucible travels quite, quite slowly. In fact, in the worst ending, you can see it moving over the surface of the Earth at a quite leisurely pace. The fast beam which reaches the relay almost instantly is released later in a great big explosion. Are you saying the Normandy can't fly fast enough to overtake that first wave?

Actually you should watch the endings again, in the control one there is no second beam, its just the first one it would seem it reaches the Sol relay just as fast. In the other 2 endings, the interval between the wave and the beam is like 40 seconds at best, so if than is enough time for Joker to make the decision and the Normandy to make a 180 and go from Earth to Pluto, I would be quite amazed.

I've actually examined the Control ending quite a lot thanks, so I know what I'm talking about when I say ... no, you watch it again.

The transition between the Citadel arms closing and the beam reaching the relays is a fade-to-black (unlike in the other two endings) which is commonly associated with a transition in time, cinematically. It's certainly not instant.

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Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

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Emzamination wrote...

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Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.


Seemed pretty front line against Sovereign.


Sovereign was distracted fighting shepard and the citadel fleet on two fronts ^_^

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Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

Hm, quite
  09:35
Go eat your words, om nom nom so gud.

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Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Hahaha this made me lol

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Emzamination wrote...

FirstKillshotN7 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.


Seemed pretty front line against Sovereign.


Sovereign was distracted fighting shepard and the citadel fleet on two fronts ^_^

And how does that change the fact that the Normandy stays in front of the fleets in both 1 and 3? Seems pretty front line huh?
Ops forgot in went face to face with the Collector ship in 2 as well, silly me.

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Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

Hm, quite
  09:35
Go eat your words, om nom nom so gud.



Haha. We all knew that... those of us who actually played that game. :D

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Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

Hm, quite
  09:35
Go eat your words, om nom nom so gud.



What am I looking for?

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Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

Hm, quite
  09:35
Go eat your words, om nom nom so gud.



What am I looking for?

You know, the exact time that I specificly placed right next to the video link?

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Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

FirstKillshotN7 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.


Seemed pretty front line against Sovereign.


Sovereign was distracted fighting shepard and the citadel fleet on two fronts ^_^

And how does that change the fact that the Normandy stays in front of the fleets in both 1 and 3? Seems pretty front line huh?
Ops forgot in went face to face with the Collector ship in 2 as well, silly me.


*Yawn* Normandy led the charge but stayed back while the other ships attacked.

The normandy defeated the collector ship 1/3 only after massive upgrades and even then it still got dropped. Try again?

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Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

Hm, quite
  09:35
Go eat your words, om nom nom so gud.



What am I looking for?

You know, the exact time that I specificly placed right next to the video link?


Normandy joined sword

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Just because you say they aren't plotholes doesn't make them not plotholes.

And just because you say they are plotholes doesn't make them plotholes.

Most bizaarely ridiculous logic I've ever seen someone attempt to use. <_<

1) Shepard back on Earth taking a breath after being vaporized into dust makes NO SENSE. There is no logical argument you can make that can refute this being a plothole.

If we're going to start calling cinematic showmanship "plotholes" then everyone should give up now. Shepard waking up is like seeing something at the end of a movie which inexplicably suggests that the hero or the villain have survived, despite the fact that we just saw them fall off a cliff, or get enveloped in an explosion. It's to put doubt in our minds, nothing more.

Are you seriously calling that a "plothole" that needs to be fixed? They're not allowed to put that question mark at the end of "The End" now?

2) Star Child's Reaper Logic - We are synthetics that kill and harvest organics to save them from being killed by synthetics. This is a logical fallacy in it's purest definition. Logical fallacies can not be explained to be anything other that illogical gibberish, which forms a plothole.

Jesus, how many people are going to bring up this ridiculous "yo dawg" argument before they read an explanation?

The Starchild's premise is that given enough time, technology will evolve to create synthetics which will wipe out all organic life in the galaxy. So the Starchild develops synthetics which will wipe out SOME organic life in the galaxy, the most technologically advanced ones. Technological level is kept low, synthetics which kill all organic life are never invented, organic life is preserved.

There is no logical fallacy in that whatsoever, and I really should get around to making a thread once and for all which hammers that point home.

3) The squadmate that are with you on Earth that got hit by Harbinger's beam should be dead or severly injured. There is no explaination as to how they also were transported back to the Normandy unscathed. This is a plothole.

They never got hit by Harbinger's beam that you see, but sure ... that's a plothole. One which is most likely going to be cleared up in the Extended Cut.

4) If Joker was able to rescue those squadmates there is no explaination as to how he was also able to escape the destruction of the blast wave.

What? If he was fast enough to rescue the squadmates, that supports the idea of him being fast enough to escape the destruction of the blast wave. What are you talking about?

5) If you picked the option to destroy all synthetic lifeforms, and the Normandy gets hit with the blast wave. There is no explaination as to how EDI managed to survive. This is a plothole.

Sure, why not. I would put that down as a programming mistake, given that who comes out of the Normandy is clearly a programmed output based on who you had with you on the final mission (and programmed mistakes aren't plotholes), but if you want to nitpick, sure?

You BioWare extremist fans can try to dismiss these plotholes by waving your hands and saying, "No they aren't plotholes because hurdur I said so."

Actually ... it's because of the reasons I stated above. The logical reasons. If using logic to prove a statement is tantamount to "Jedi mind trickery" to you, then I pity what your life must be like.

Try using logic to disprove things, and we'll talk. Otherwise, sorry, but time to move on.

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Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

FirstKillshotN7 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.


Seemed pretty front line against Sovereign.


Sovereign was distracted fighting shepard and the citadel fleet on two fronts ^_^

And how does that change the fact that the Normandy stays in front of the fleets in both 1 and 3? Seems pretty front line huh?
Ops forgot in went face to face with the Collector ship in 2 as well, silly me.


*Yawn* Normandy led the charge but stayed back while the other ships attacked.

The normandy defeated the collector ship 1/3 only after massive upgrades and even then it still got dropped. Try again?

If it leads the charge doesn't that make a front line ship?

The first time it was ambushed, the second time it was ambushed again, and got all of its systems shutdown. The third time when it was an even battle it won vs a vastly technologically superior ship 1v1. Have you even played any mass effect game? Try again?

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Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

FirstKillshotN7 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Wha....I don't even...
The Normandy is part of the Sword fleed, the Shield fleed got the "super secret project" to the Citadel. The Normandy wouldn't be anywhere else but in the heart of the battle. Its fast, very manuverable, and packs a hell of a punch. Why the **** would Joker first drop me off, then go back to the fight, THEN come to Earth again, THEN leave the Sol system with my crew without knowing anything about what Shepard is doing?




Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad.


Seemed pretty front line against Sovereign.


Sovereign was distracted fighting shepard and the citadel fleet on two fronts ^_^

And how does that change the fact that the Normandy stays in front of the fleets in both 1 and 3? Seems pretty front line huh?
Ops forgot in went face to face with the Collector ship in 2 as well, silly me.


*Yawn* Normandy led the charge but stayed back while the other ships attacked.

The normandy defeated the collector ship 1/3 only after massive upgrades and even then it still got dropped. Try again?


Dropped? Funny, I remember my Normandy picking me and my crew up at the end and going back through the Omega 4 Relay.

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Icemix

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Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Go play the ****ing game again you ****ing moron. Seriously, I have been trying to keep my cool, but you are just ****ing retarded. Its like trying to have an argument with a 10 year old.


Your tears are like sweet whine.Everyone of your statements has been explained and dismissed and now you launch a tantrum like a fat kid who got no cake at the party.Step back,take a breather and relax, Boy

Hm, quite
  09:35
Go eat your words, om nom nom so gud.



What am I looking for?

You know, the exact time that I specificly placed right next to the video link?


Normandy joined sword

"Normandy isn't a front line warship and was never adressed as being apart of sword.

I highly doubt Sheps combat prowess would be diminished with traynor and the rest of the generic grunts M.I.A

Who said he was fighting after drop off?

Leave fan fiction and the ID theorie where they belong, in fan fiction lad. "
What was that? I didn't quite hear it over the sound of you eating your own words.

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The Razman

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I'd like to make it clear that while I did involve myself because I saw somebody making frankly moronic claims as to what were plotholes, I happen to think that both sides in this particular thread need to go away and educate themselves more before attempting to engage in rational arguments in future.