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MegaSovereign wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

People need to understand that Mr. Gamble has quite a bit on his shoulders.......

He has to communicate with us because Walters and Hudson cannot.

Not a job that is usually assigned to a producer.


Why is Casey and Mac still so quiet? has EA gagged them?


I would have. Simply because anything they say can cause things to catch fire.

They aren't talking because they've been told not to. That's a business technique.

Mr. Gamble has to take and relay most relevant information now because the other two men at the top can't say anything.


Am I the only one who would rather hear this info from Gamble than Hudson? I mean what's the problem exactly?


Gamble.......has been more than cool in this endeavor guys.....like way cool.

I work with producers for a living. Most are pretty unpleasent people. Gamble has gone above and beyond what he should be doing whether you believe me or not. He made some mistakes but he has more than stepped up to the plate.

I've never seen a producer do this before...........EVER.

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xsdob wrote...

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What I don't understand is why all these actors JUST for 'clarification' and 'closure'? My opinion?...

SOMETHING BIG IS COMING. Please be IT, please please please please


If it's big than I want something right out of left feild, something that makes it look like your game crashes but it's actually a set up to the big dlc like the final scarecrow level in arkham asylum.


duuude remember fighting psycho mantis in metal gear solid? what if the harbinger fight is a throwback to something like that, he ****s with your screen and stuff. would be cool.

anyway yeah priority: earth needs to be "extended" definitely, and priority: harbinger needs to be like suicide mission but better. ok thats all

edit: also if they're already doing voice overs that must mean they already have the script written. hmm that didn't take very long, were they planning this? :huh:

Modifié par comrade gando, 06 mai 2012 - 10:49 .


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And now I'm giving them advice on cameras to buy..........

Oh God.............

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

People need to understand that Mr. Gamble has quite a bit on his shoulders.......

He has to communicate with us because Walters and Hudson cannot.

Not a job that is usually assigned to a producer.


Why is Casey and Mac still so quiet? has EA gagged them?


I would have. Simply because anything they say can cause things to catch fire.

They aren't talking because they've been told not to. That's a business technique.

Mr. Gamble has to take and relay most relevant information now because the other two men at the top can't say anything.


Am I the only one who would rather hear this info from Gamble than Hudson? I mean what's the problem exactly?


There isn't really a problem with it.

It would be nice to hear Casey and Mac's true feelings, but the fact is, if they made a post on BSN right now, it would go south real fast. Just look at the snide tweets their accounts have been lambasted with for the last 2 months. Too many people think the internet gives them a license to be a complete jerk. It's the kind of thing that Dr. Muzyka's Bioware blog announcement was referring to, when he asked for constructive criticism instead of destructive. A large number of people kept up the destructive stuff. That's why it's not safe for Casey/Mac to talk publicly yet.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

And now I'm giving them advice on cameras to buy..........

Oh God.............


You talking about @ehlien?

I got to play some multiplayer with him; he's another cool producer IMO

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Taboo-XX wrote...

And now I'm giving them advice on cameras to buy..........

Oh God.............


I've seen his twitter feed. He replies back to every post and he's totally cool about it.

If he says Bioware is working had on the EC then I would believe him. Simple as that.

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EC=Fail
90% chance of this happening,so just be ready.

Bioware's next game=Fail
90% chance of this happening,so just be ready.

Always be ready for the worst outcome,this way you can be pleasantly surprised by w.e. Artistic trash they give us. Also kill the hype,as it kills the game.
Take Back Earth CG trailer is definitely IMO better then anything we got in-game. Especially the ending...

Modifié par Rip504, 06 mai 2012 - 11:10 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
People need to understand that Mr. Gamble has quite a bit on his shoulders.......

He has to communicate with us because Walters and Hudson cannot.

Not a job that is usually assigned to a producer.


Why is Casey and Mac still so quiet? has EA gagged them?


I would have. Simply because anything they say can cause things to catch fire.

They aren't talking because they've been told not to. That's a business technique.

Mr. Gamble has to take and relay most relevant information now because the other two men at the top can't say anything.


Figured as such, Hey Taboo just reading before you had conversation with producer for 20 mins

Did you find out anything we dont know?

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Eh, they have one chance......one.

I can't stress enough how cool Gamble has been in all this.....

It actually weirds me out.........

I wish I got to work with producers who actually liked things and talked to people.

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XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
People need to understand that Mr. Gamble has quite a bit on his shoulders.......

He has to communicate with us because Walters and Hudson cannot.

Not a job that is usually assigned to a producer.


Why is Casey and Mac still so quiet? has EA gagged them?


I would have. Simply because anything they say can cause things to catch fire.

They aren't talking because they've been told not to. That's a business technique.

Mr. Gamble has to take and relay most relevant information now because the other two men at the top can't say anything.


Figured as such, Hey Taboo just reading before you had conversation with producer for 20 mins

Did you find out anything we dont know?


Not really. It seems they wanted an Open Ending like Inception or The Matrix. They know that didn't go well. I'm making a topic on this.......tomorrow.

On thematic detriments most likely....

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DazenCobalt17 wrote...

*insert cautious optimism here*


Also,

LIZ SROKA, GAMBLE!  LIZ SROKA!!! ><

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Taboo-XX wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
People need to understand that Mr. Gamble has quite a bit on his shoulders.......

He has to communicate with us because Walters and Hudson cannot.

Not a job that is usually assigned to a producer.


Why is Casey and Mac still so quiet? has EA gagged them?


I would have. Simply because anything they say can cause things to catch fire.

They aren't talking because they've been told not to. That's a business technique.

Mr. Gamble has to take and relay most relevant information now because the other two men at the top can't say anything.


Figured as such, Hey Taboo just reading before you had conversation with producer for 20 mins

Did you find out anything we dont know?


Not really. It seems they wanted an Open Ending like Inception or The Matrix. They know that didn't go well. I'm making a topic on this.......tomorrow.

On thematic detriments most likely....


I had mentioned to @ehlien that I liked Inception, but the "open ending" it had left 2 possiblities:

Cobb is dreaming but doesn't care, he is happy
or
Cobb is awake and is happy

It's easy to love the ending with those choices. And you had a lot of context to go on.

You don't have the context with ME3. For example, the Normandy scene is so out of place and character, it's nigh impossible to speculate about. And it leaves you feeling very unsatisfied.

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Ok I wasn't trying to be an ass before i am just very sceptical of anything they say. An apology for the lies would be good. It is not ok to lie to your customers and they need to acknowledge this. Its just my opinion though, no need to go srpeading it around.

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Oh and the problem with an open an ending in this case is, that it is the exact opposite of what was promised. But yeah Taboo-XX anything new for us?

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kratosmr wrote...

Oh and the problem with an open an ending in this case is, that it is the exact opposite of what was promised. But yeah Taboo-XX anything new for us?


Mr. Buskell knows that people want closure more than anything.

They want to understand.

I told him that that was a human trait and he concurred.

Take that as you will.

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Rip504 wrote...

Always be ready for the worst outcome,this way you can be pleasantly surprised by w.e. Artistic trash they give us. Also kill the hype,as it kills the game.
Take Back Earth CG trailer is definitely IMO better then anything we got in-game. Especially the ending...


Yep, basically how I look at it, I was honestly expecting more expansion on that trailer in the game, and was pretty discouraged when Priority: Earth was over.

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I kind of wonder if Casey & Mac's vacations were up, but the company encouraged them to take an extended one and distance themselves from all this.

- In this age of social media, going completely dark is quite telling.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 06 mai 2012 - 11:35 .


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I will see when it comes out. I can't help but question the judgement of people who steal ideas from others and then claim artistic integrity. At the same time though I'm not going to say its going to be rubbish because we simply don't know. Nothing will change my mind though that the ending that is there should not be and should never have come to pass. Awful judgement but yeah I know people make mistakes. Its just well, DA2 was a mistake and they didn't learn. This and the lies make them difficult to trust. Trust is hard to gain and even harder to win back once lost. The VA's coming back though is a good sign at least.

Modifié par kratosmr, 06 mai 2012 - 11:34 .


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I said that it would be quality.

OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH.

One **** up is all that's necessary in this business.

The ME team has had the one allowed.

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How do you know this though Taboo?

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kratosmr wrote...

How do you know this though Taboo?


Because I assist producers in the film industry.

I know how ****ing insane they can be.

Gamble is the only sane one I've ever heard of.

One goof and AWFUL things happen.

I don't envy the ME team.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 06 mai 2012 - 11:37 .


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That doesn't guarantee it will be quality. And I don't envy them either but they put themselves in this position so I'm also surprisingly short on sympathy.

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I am afraid they will only record squadmates anyway...

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kratosmr wrote...

That doesn't guarantee it will be quality. And I don't envy them either but they put themselves in this position so I'm also surprisingly short on sympathy.


Hmmmm...I wonder. I think it's more likely those higher up put them in that position. I know it's been said before, but all signs point to a huge time crunch at the end. Even the Tali face issue may have been the result of waiting too long into production to make a decision on it. *Shrugs*

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 06 mai 2012 - 11:43 .


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I am afraid they will only record squadmates anyway...


What's that song by Depeche Mode? Enjoy the Silence?

"Words are meaningless.........they can only cause harm."

I don't know anything about Miss Strahovski outside of her work in Mass Effect but I seriously doubt she's too hard to find like say.......Martin Sheen.

I could technically find this out but..........

That's not my business.