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There are a number of infiltrators I have encountered who just shoot things (presumably to get a high score) and when it comes to crunch time on disable device objectives where enemies are swarming the objective point they do nothing, meanwhile the rest of us are dying trying to complete the objective.

It really should be a no brainer that if there are many enemies near an objective only an Infiltrator can do it but they don't get that. Have you experienced this as well?

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Ehehe, yup. Some will never learn.

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Why are you starting multiple topics on Infiltrators instead of just discussing it in one?

Besides, it's not like the infiltrator class somehow makes people participate less, you just got a greedy player. That happens, no need ot make a post of it.

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BURN THEM!

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At least you don't have Vanguards charging into the lot of them.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Ehehe, yup. Some will never learn.


We just played with one didn't we, hence why I am writing this. That was the 20th or so one I have encountered. It's getting bad.

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Praest wrote...

Why are you starting multiple topics on Infiltrators instead of just discussing it in one?

Besides, it's not like the infiltrator class somehow makes people participate less, you just got a greedy player. That happens, no need ot make a post of it.


Believe me, it is an epidemic.

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I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.

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Also people who start disabling a device while the infiltrator is on their way there. Seriously, during these waves, let the infiltrator do their job, and you do yours--keeping things off their backs.

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This hasn't happened very much, but when it does...oh man. They're usually the type to never revive anyone too, to make matters worse.

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Eterna5 wrote...

At least you don't have Vanguards charging into the lot of them.


They'd at least draw aggro, provided they survive at least a little time. But with the constant cloaking, Infiltrators focus more or less the entire enemy on those trying to get the objective completed.

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Usually as an infiltrator, I instinctively go for those objectives when they pop. I only hold off when I see someone else got there first. Then I'll stay sufficiently far away to not draw aggro toward them while covering them.

As for enemies swarming an objective, that sometimes can be a hindrance to infiltrators as well, especially if the objective is out in the open. Unless you get the +duration evolution for cloak (which I'm pretty sure very few people do), cloak lasts JUST long enough to complete the objective if you cloak right as you start. So an infiltrator that cloaks and then runs into an objective swarming with enemies to start the objective will likely die before they complete it right as their cloak runs out. So if you see a bunch of enemies crowding an exposed objective, it might be helpful to start thinning them out or draw them away from it so the infiltrator can do the hack without dying.

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NewStrings wrote...

I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.


If someone is right next to it, sure but just this past game we were being swarmed and our Geth Infiltrator was running around shooting things.

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Assuming that an overwhelming amount of the players doesn't know what they're doing is a safe bet - I refrain from calling them 'idiots' for now.

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Stardusk wrote...

Praest wrote...

Why are you starting multiple topics on Infiltrators instead of just discussing it in one?

Besides, it's not like the infiltrator class somehow makes people participate less, you just got a greedy player. That happens, no need ot make a post of it.


Believe me, it is an epidemic.


I play gold and to me, this has not been an issue. If there's an infiltrator on the team, he/she usually goes for the disable objectives without having to be told so. But yeah, there are players who regardless of what they're doing is only thinking of their own score.

So in short: class doesn't matter, there are bad players in all of them.

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whalewhisker wrote...

This hasn't happened very much, but when it does...oh man. They're usually the type to never revive anyone too, to make matters worse.

Yup. That's the thing that drives me up a wall. Just watching them utterly ignore downed people so they can keep sniping.

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When the other teammates start to get them or follow me to them I leave the area. Then again I don't play a lot of infiltrators. If they continue killing I get objectives and revive the vanguard.

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Also as an Infiltrator, sometimes I will run away from someone who has downed. Reason? Three geth primes standing next to the dead one with combat drones out. Tactical cloak doesn't help there, but it sure didn't stop them from telling me off for not committing suicide.

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NewStrings wrote...

I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.


Thiiiiiiis.  There are so many times where I'm just ready to go (all of the times the 4 objectives pop up) and then some idiot teammate (or worse, the whole team) makes a run for it instead; and it's almost always someone without cloak, only rarely will another infiltrator go for it.  On a Reactor-Cerberus game earlier there was one of the 4 objectives in the corner.  One of my Asari Justicar teammates kept going for every one of these instead of staying with the group.  I get there and start disarming while cloaked and he puts a bubble over me, all right, thanks.  Then 3 Phantoms appear.  The Justicar backs up behind me further into the corner, leading all of the Phantoms to melee me to death trying to get to him (also since Phantoms will melee invisible people, but not shoot them).

I put on my mic and said "Listen, thanks for the thought about protecting me, but seriously just stay the hell away from these when I'm disarming them.  I can turn invisible and you can't, when I'm invisible enemies will ignore me.  I really like that you're trying to help, but by trying to help you're only hurting me."

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 06 mai 2012 - 08:33 .


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The reverse can be said about team mates congregating or making their way to the objective,trying to do it,bringing a whole lot of pain and trouble to the infiltrator wanting to do his job unhindered.

Also the kill target objective is best left to the infiltrator.

If he needs help,he will ask.

Either way,some people do the right thing,some the wrong,no matter what class they play.

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thats why my tactical cloak is duration, cloak just before you start disarming and you have about a 2 second headstart running away

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darkelf02 wrote...

The reverse can be said about team mates congregating or making their way to the objective,trying to do it,bringing a whole lot of pain and trouble to the infiltrator wanting to do his job unhindered.

Also the kill target objective is best left to the infiltrator.

If he needs help,he will ask.

Either way,some people do the right thing,some the wrong,no matter what class they play.


I don't mind people who want to cover me while I do the objective (i.e. stay there and kill anything that comes close). What I hate is people who run to the objective, then when they've succeeded in luring a bunch of phantoms right on top of me, proceed to run away. If you want to cover me, make sure you can actually handle defending a stationary position first. If you can't, then stay away and cover me from range or not at all.

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NewStrings wrote...

Also as an Infiltrator, sometimes I will run away from someone who has downed. Reason? Three geth primes standing next to the dead one with combat drones out. Tactical cloak doesn't help there, but it sure didn't stop them from telling me off for not committing suicide.


Or two phantoms having a picnic on his body. You did the right thing. If you had rez him, your cloak would have ended, and both of you would have died.

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Seen this many a time across all difficulty lvls. Nothing worse than a static infiltrator, ive seen them ignore objectives, not revive team mate right next to them, and even get melee to death just to get a few more shots in thier desired direction.

Moral of the story is Inflitrators dont play with superglue.

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 If you need an infiltrator to do the objectives for you then does that mean you're any good yourself? :innocent: