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[mightysasquatch]

My experience is the total opposite...ass-clowns worrying over kills than gettin the objective done first...

[aznricepuff]

Domnux wrote...

NewStrings wrote...

Also as an Infiltrator, sometimes I will run away from someone who has downed. Reason? Three geth primes standing next to the dead one with combat drones out. Tactical cloak doesn't help there, but it sure didn't stop them from telling me off for not committing suicide.

Or two phantoms having a picnic on his body. You did the right thing. If you had rez him, your cloak would have ended, and both of you would have died.

If that's the case, what I usually do (as SI) is run up, revive, then in the 1 second window after the revive finishes and before my cloak starts its cooldown, I fire down a proxy mine. It will stagger everything in the area (in the case of phantoms it may force them to go into their "immune to all power damage/biotics" stance, but they are immobile while doing it nonetheless), allowing me and the person I just revived to make a clean getaway. Obviously this won't work against stuff like atlases/banshees, but it's allowed me to pull people from pretty hairy situations.

[afmn]

most infiltrators who dont know how to play the class and their responsibilities probably dont come to these forums.

i can almost guarantee you any infiltrator worth a damn will run to cap the objectives and will probably get annoyed if someone runs with them.

obviously if an objective pops next to another player its no issue if they do it. also if am in abad situation and need to get myself out of it. a competent team will realise it and go do the objective while im drawing all the fire.

[Stardusk]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

 If you need an infiltrator to do the objectives for you then does that mean you're any good yourself? :innocent:

LOL. I am good, but being good has no bearing on for example, Fire Base Glacier, middle of the room 2 Atlases, 2 phantoms, hordes of troopers. What can the skillful Turian Soldier do to complete the objective there? What can Kroguard do? Nothing. You are missing the point. There are objectives that are literally impossible to do because enemies all spawn there.

Modifié par Stardusk, 06 mai 2012 - 08:54 .

[mightysasquatch]

afmn wrote...

most infiltrators who dont know how to play the class and their responsibilities probably dont come to these forums.

i can almost guarantee you any infiltrator worth a damn will run to cap the objectives and will probably get annoyed if someone runs with them.

obviously if an objective pops next to another player its no issue if they do it. also if am in abad situation and need to get myself out of it. a competent team will realise it and go do the objective while im drawing all the fire.

I get annoyed when people leg it to the objectives, I try playing the class as it should. 

[Dynamik78]

Another useless topic to blame the class for no reason. It's not the class's fault the blame should be for the person behind it

Modifié par Dynamik78, 06 mai 2012 - 09:04 .

[stabbykitteh]

NewStrings wrote...

I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.

This has been my experience as well. It's often a race.

[ederius]

afmn wrote...

most infiltrators who dont know how to play the class and their responsibilities probably dont come to these forums.

i can almost guarantee you any infiltrator worth a damn will run to cap the objectives and will probably get annoyed if someone runs with them.

obviously if an objective pops next to another player its no issue if they do it. also if am in abad situation and need to get myself out of it. a competent team will realise it and go do the objective while im drawing all the fire.

word ...

[wicked_being]

NewStrings wrote...

I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.

This. This. This. And it really ticks me off when I'm already disabling it and another person comes and starts doing it too attracting all kinds of unwanted attention from the enemy.

[DextroDNA]

If you're playing Gold, you shouldn't be going for the device if you're not an Infiltrator anyway. Infiltrator cloaks and goes in on his own, gets out - job done.
I admit, in Bronze/Silver games - I just for the kills. But at least I help out by shooting everything I see near the objectives. In a Gold game, I cloak and go straight for it.

If you're not playing Gold, you really shouldn't be dying over objectives...
If you ARE playing Gold (and you're not an Infiltrator), you really shouldn't be going towards the objectives unless it's a Hack Progress...

Seems like you're the one in the wrong here, mate.

Modifié par RussianZombeh, 06 mai 2012 - 09:20 .

[Ashen One]

I play infiltrator for the most part, and I only ignore objectives when idiots follow me around the map while I'm trying disarm nodes. That alone is enough to make me stop disarming the node and just kill things instead. Since all the aggro is coming my way anyway, I might as well cover the other guy because I'm better at killing things than he is too.

[GodlessPaladin]

Stardusk wrote...

There are a number of infiltrators I have encountered who just shoot things (presumably to get a high score) and when it comes to crunch time on disable device objectives where enemies are swarming the objective point they do nothing, meanwhile the rest of us are dying trying to complete the objective.

It really should be a no brainer that if there are many enemies near an objective only an Infiltrator can do it but they don't get that. Have you experienced this as well?

I get these guys all the time, and what makes it even sadder is when they get upset and ragequit because they have a third of my score anyways. 

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 06 mai 2012 - 09:31 .

[Star fury]

Never understood people who encounter some braindead behavior in the game and then run to forums to create a thread about it.

[OniGanon]

TBH if an objective is surrounded by enemies and near an enemy spawn point... I'd be pretty hesitant to activate it too.

Cloak isn't God Mode. Enemies can see through it if they're close and will continue to shoot at the area you activated it in.

If you use Cloak to get to the objective, it will deactivate halfway through the upload, leaving you surrounded by enemies with Cloak on 5s or so cooldown.

If you rush the objective and then Cloak, enemies still might know where you are and shoot in your general direction. And even if you successfully complete the objective, you're still surrounded by enemies with Cloak on cooldown.

I wasn't there, so obviously I can't say authoritively what should have been done. But it sounds to me that the entire team should have concentrated on clearing the area surrounding the objective before the idea of capturing it entered anyone's head.

[DextroDNA]

OniGanon wrote...

TBH if an objective is surrounded by enemies and near an enemy spawn point... I'd be pretty hesitant to activate it too.

Cloak isn't God Mode. Enemies can see through it if they're close and will continue to shoot at the area you activated it in.

If you use Cloak to get to the objective, it will deactivate halfway through the upload, leaving you surrounded by enemies with Cloak on 5s or so cooldown.

If you rush the objective and then Cloak, enemies still might know where you are and shoot in your general direction. And even if you successfully complete the objective, you're still surrounded by enemies with Cloak on cooldown.

I wasn't there, so obviously I can't say authoritively what should have been done. But it sounds to me that the entire team should have concentrated on clearing the area surrounding the objective before the idea of capturing it entered anyone's head.

Your cloak has a 5s CD? My cloak is rank 4 and it has a 3s CD. It's perfect, as long as your teammates keep the enemies away.

[Traim Eisenblut]

I have it lot's of times in PUG Gold games that some idiots playing any class but Infiltrator running for the objectives...even if they are on the other side of the map. I will not go for the objective than, as I will be dead when they draw all the enemies there.
Specially annyoing are Asari Justicars who pop up there stupid bubble around me in these cases...it is not helping on gold when 2 atlasses are firing missiles at you! And when you are next to me, these missiles hit me aswell!!!

Point is: if you are in a team of people who don't know what they are doing, you are better of observing their actions first before taking some yourself and get killed.

[marshalleck]

You infiltrators whining about people doing objectives need to pick up the pace. If we're ten seconds into the wave and you're not moving, I'm going to assume you're not paying attention or don't care, and start moving on them myself so we can get them done and get some bonus credits. Despite what BSN thinks, infiltrators are not the only class that can complete objectives.

So either say something on the mic, or move your ass.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 mai 2012 - 10:07 .

[Traim Eisenblut]

But I'm not waiting 10 seconds. Still in many games the moment the objection rectangle shows up 1 or 2 noninfiltrators start running towards it. Clear moment for me to realize: not going there, rather draw fire away from them.

[dday3six]

I see that often on PS3. It's really annoying. However I also see people following the Inflitrator to the devices, bringing all the enemies with them about as often. In the end people place a lot of emphasis on being on top of the scoreboard. You see this a lot in those N7 rating doesn't matter threads/disscussions. However the truth is that even though you're on top of the score board doesn't actually mean that you we the most helpful to your team.

[nicethugbert]

/signed

I'd rather play with 4 biotics anyday then have a single engineer or infiltrator. All they do is mess up biotic explosions.

[Domnuxx]

nicethugbert wrote...

/signed

I'd rather play with 4 biotics anyday then have a single engineer or infiltrator. All they do is mess up biotic explosions.

And you know for a fact that every infiltrator or engineer is out to sabotage your explosions.

Whenever I play as an SI I never ED their targets. I either take care of the low-level enemies closing in or help them take care of bigger targets by throwing a proximity mine (20% extra damage).

[TheAgent]

Whenever I play Infiltrator, non Infiltrators attempt to race me to the objective and arm/disarm it themselves.

[OniGanon]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Your cloak has a 5s CD?

When it runs its full duration, as it would when doing an objective, then yes.

[DextroDNA]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

If you're playing Gold, you shouldn't be going for the device if you're not an Infiltrator anyway. Infiltrator cloaks and goes in on his own, gets out - job done.
I admit, in Bronze/Silver games - I just for the kills. But at least I help out by shooting everything I see near the objectives. In a Gold game, I cloak and go straight for it.

If you're not playing Gold, you really shouldn't be dying over objectives...
If you ARE playing Gold (and you're not an Infiltrator), you really shouldn't be going towards the objectives unless it's a Hack Progress...

Seems like you're the one in the wrong here, mate.

As a matter of fact, I was in that very match Stardusk is refering to. Had a Claymore Geth Infiltrator with us. Gold/FB:W/Cerberus

Stardusk as his Turian Soldier with Talon X
Trickx or something like that (sorry mate, forgot your name) with his Asari Justicar Adept and a Disciple X
And me as a Turian Sentinel with my Saber IV.

So we had two all out close-up fighters. one all out medium range fighter, one all out supporter, another two decent midrange fighters and a decent longrange fighter is we put out share of combat roles together. It was a balanced team and mostly everything went without problems.

Then came the disable objective and is it turned out, that Infiltrator seemed more concerned with killing stuff rather than going to disable the stuff. So we had to. Got a bit hairy at one point, but we managed through and to our surprise, he even did a single one of those objectives ... arguably the one where his unparallaled survivability with TC was not needed at but we could get to because, after going for the other objectives we had the entire Cerberus horde shooting at us.

So instead of us three doing what we can do best in our setup and pulling aggro to let him do the objectives without hazzle, he did exactly squat when he would have been the greatest help.

I suppose that's just a prime example of a bad infiltrator. Infiltrator's in Gold matches should have objectives as their No.1 priority. You should've shouted at this guy to get to the objectives.