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[Mr_Happy]

Or they're just brain-afk. Take your pick.

Modifié par Mr_Happy, 06 mai 2012 - 11:10 .

[Chaynsaw]

In general, I'm not happy with people that play infiltrator and don't do the disable objectives. However, I've experienced the same sort of killing frenzy that temporarily distracts me from disable objectives. It usually happens when I'm in hunter mode. I guess I can forgive people that have had that "Oh ****, I forgot I'm an infiltrator" moment.

I genuinely wonder if people forget. No one rational wants to fail the mission and sacrifice credits for XP, right?

However, those of you who are getting pissed at non-infiltrators who go for objectives. If you're running pubs and don't know who the hell you're playing with.... I don't know about you, but I'm going to go for the objectives. Maybe the person forgot he was an infiltrator, or decided to go 0/6/6/6/6. Whatever the case may be, I do recommend that you err on the side of caution and go for objectives no matter what. Assume everyone's a total idiot. Especially if you don't suck at the game.

[KentGoldings]

People of all classes chase kills instead of objectives. Not just infiltrators.

[Bamford38]

Even worse than infiltrators not doing objectives is everyone running an objective when theres an infiltrator on the team.

I usually play as an infiltrator, so obviously i know its me who has to do the objective. I cloak and run over, avoiding all the enemies. But whenever i get there a random player turns up and draws all the enemies to my position. They go down straight away and i have to juggle between reviving them and doing the objective, usually having to waste a missile in the process.

I even tell everyone through the mic to leave me alone to do the objective, but they still follow me around the map.
I understand theyre probably just trying to help, but they just make it much harder for me to do my job.

So a message to everyone playing with an infiltrator on the team -
I know there are lots of selfish infiltrators who dont do objectives, but just wait a couple of seconds to see if they are going to do it, and if they are then stay the hell away from them.

[xtorma]

Stardusk wrote...

NewStrings wrote...

I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.

If someone is right next to it, sure but just this past game we were being swarmed and our Geth Infiltrator was running around shooting things.

It is far more common for me, when i play infiltrator, that when i go to cap an objective, the rest of the team goes there also, dragging every mob in the zone with them.

[Nocturnalfox]

 I do that, go for the score, but that is only if I have a ridiculously stupid team  

If I go after a point do not follow, do not head my way, just stay on the other side of the map.

My cloak lasts like 7-8 seconds, the cap time is 10 seconds, if people bring the enemy towards me there is a good chance I will die.

The other situation is if there are two infiltrators (me and one other) I assume they are specced for capping so let them do it while I focus on cloak and shoots and counting to 5 between shots (to try to draw enemy towards me) before shooting again.

If I think they are a complete retard then I step in and do all the work.

[jerrinehart]

Bad players are bad. I use a mic and I always call out I am getting the caps and tell them to stay away unless I ask for help. It's not the class, it's the person with the controller in their hand.

[Unnamed_Shadow]

if there are 2 infiltrators on the team and i see one of them go for the hacking...i decide to stay back and get rid of the heavy hitters...

hacking is a thing to be done in groups of 2 anyways

[The Runeseeker]

So, for the infiltrators saying that they don't like it when others leave for the objectives, how long should we give you before we can tell whether you're going to do them or not? If I don't see you immediately move for it, then I'm going to go because it needs to get done or enemies won't stop spawning.

[Freskione2]

I play SI or GI a lot and sometimes you can't get to the objectives on time. If I've disabled a couple on one side of the map, usually the next one will pop up across the map and even with cloak, you can't get there in time, thus teammates are going to have to do it.

If I see someone already disabling, I will cloak and stand guard.

If I see a bunch of baddies around the objective I'm not going to rush in, even cloaked you're going to get killed (know from experience), especially if no one else is around to draw them off.

I do understand what you're talking about though, as I've played with people that just stand there, even when they are right next to the darn thing.

[Bamford38]

Freskione2 wrote...

I play SI or GI a lot and sometimes you can't get to the objectives on time. If I've disabled a couple on one side of the map, usually the next one will pop up across the map and even with cloak, you can't get there in time

Why is it taking you so long to get from one side of the map to the other?

Even if theres enemies everywhere, a cloaked infilrtator can get there easily. If your cloak runs out, get behind cover until you can use it again.

If you still cant get there in time, you should consider trying a different class.

[Ninefingers79]

At the beginning of every objective round I say "I got it" into the mic. Sometimes I'll elaborate and say "Please let me do these, stay back and defend your position while I cap the objectives". Sometimes it works, usually it doesn't. When all three of my teammates run off to cap a single objective, there is no fracking way am I running in there to die with them (unless it's wave 3 or something, with less elites).

Point is, everyone has their own way of doing things and you cannot control individual infiltrators any better than I can control my teammates. You get good games and bad games, good teams and bad teams, good infiltrators and bad infiltrators. Suck it up and game on.

[Fighter084]

You know what kind of moron teammate infiltrators I had in one match? I was a Salarian Engineer with 3 infiltrator teammates. On the disable objective round, NONE of them went to ANY of them until 1 minute left on the clock and all three of them died. I was seriously wondering during the entire time if they even realized they needed to get to the objectives.

[Nocturnalfox]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

The Runeseeker wrote...

So, for the infiltrators saying that they don't like it when others leave for the objectives, how long should we give you before we can tell whether you're going to do them or not? If I don't see you immediately move for it, then I'm going to go because it needs to get done or enemies won't stop spawning.

10 seconds. But if you see them move immediately - you don't follow them. Bunker up and don't die. 

Exactly, draw aggro towards your group and the Infiltrator will have a field day, literally.

If an infiltrator hasn't started to move after 10-20 seconds, you should tell them to hurry up and capture.
Occasionally I get zoned in on sniping, someone saying "objectives are up, go get" is handy. 

[GGW KillerTiger]

Stardusk wrote...

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

 If you need an infiltrator to do the objectives for you then does that mean you're any good yourself? :innocent:

LOL. I am good, but being good has no bearing on for example, Fire Base Glacier, middle of the room 2 Atlases, 2 phantoms, hordes of troopers. What can the skillful Turian Soldier do to complete the objective there? What can Kroguard do? Nothing. You are missing the point. There are objectives that are literally impossible to do because enemies all spawn there.

I do the objectives like that with a krogan .... What are cobra misseles for if anything but to clean a room like that out then just go  I am now hacking this silly little device 

[GGW KillerTiger]

Fighter084 wrote...

You know what kind of moron teammate infiltrators I had in one match? I was a Salarian Engineer with 3 infiltrator teammates. On the disable objective round, NONE of them went to ANY of them until 1 minute left on the clock and all three of them died. I was seriously wondering during the entire time if they even realized they needed to get to the objectives.

Yet Bioware claims they keep the annoying admeral hacket yelling into our ears so people will know to do them ....

[GGW KillerTiger]

jerrinehart wrote...

Bad players are bad. I use a mic and I always call out I am getting the caps and tell them to stay away unless I ask for help. It's not the class, it's the person with the controller in their hand.

Thanks for proving my point  Any class can do them .... Why do you people think there are solo runs of none ifiltrators that people do on gold ..... They get these also and they have no teammates to draw aggro. It's possable if you use your equipment :innocent:

[GGW KillerTiger]

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

The Runeseeker wrote...

So, for the infiltrators saying that they don't like it when others leave for the objectives, how long should we give you before we can tell whether you're going to do them or not? If I don't see you immediately move for it, then I'm going to go because it needs to get done or enemies won't stop spawning.

10 seconds. But if you see them move immediately - you don't follow them. Bunker up and don't die. 

Exactly, draw aggro towards your group and the Infiltrator will have a field day, literally.

If an infiltrator hasn't started to move after 10-20 seconds, you should tell them to hurry up and capture.
Occasionally I get zoned in on sniping, someone saying "objectives are up, go get" is handy. 

So admeral Hacket yelling, "We don't have much time! Get to the objective!," constantly doesn't make you go get them?  Wow Bioware was wrong on that logic then.

[Freskione2]

Bamford38 wrote...

Freskione2 wrote...

I play SI or GI a lot and sometimes you can't get to the objectives on time. If I've disabled a couple on one side of the map, usually the next one will pop up across the map and even with cloak, you can't get there in time

Why is it taking you so long to get from one side of the map to the other?

Even if theres enemies everywhere, a cloaked infilrtator can get there easily. If your cloak runs out, get behind cover until you can use it again.

If you still cant get there in time, you should consider trying a different class.

I'm just not fast enough at times but I still do pretty well playing as an infiltrator and I've played as all the other classes, this and the engineer suits me best. 

Some times I've had to stop on my way and revive someone or stop to kill an enemy that is about to blindside a teammate etc.

Even when I'm cloaked I can run into all kinds of enemies on my way there and if there are already 2 other people on the other side of the map I will still go, but they've usually already started the objective and if they haven't then I will jump in. 

 

[Moonphos87]

*Didn't read the whole thread*

Just sharing my own encounters while playing as Infiltrator, Some players just couldn't be bothered waiting for the Infiltrator players to get the objectives even.

*Pop* Out comes the frst disable objective, I break away from combat, and the other player near me ALSO break combat, sprinting with me, TO THE OBJECTIVE, AND STARTED DISABLE... Even when I have began about a second faster than him/her, that tag-along would still start disabling, and refusing to cover my back, since he/she already came along.

What are we infiltrator users, chopped liver? If this wasn't a team game, I would just leave those players to bleed out. Sadly, the team needs more cannon fodders for the boss-tier enemies.

[Sinapus]

Stardusk wrote...

There are a number of infiltrators I have encountered who just shoot things (presumably to get a high score) and when it comes to crunch time on disable device objectives where enemies are swarming the objective point they do nothing, meanwhile the rest of us are dying trying to complete the objective.

It really should be a no brainer that if there are many enemies near an objective only an Infiltrator can do it but they don't get that. Have you experienced this as well?

YES.

[NewStrings]

The Runeseeker wrote...

So, for the infiltrators saying that they don't like it when others leave for the objectives, how long should we give you before we can tell whether you're going to do them or not? If I don't see you immediately move for it, then I'm going to go because it needs to get done or enemies won't stop spawning.

Dude. I have never, ever, ever waited. I run the SECOND I see the marker. I'd say three or four times out of five I am literally racing some Krogan there, getting jostled and shoved out of the way by the Krogan or Asari who clearly knows I'm running for it. Who also clearly know that I'm an infiltrator because I've been cloaking in front of them for five waves now. If the infiltrator isn't going, then go, but the majority of the time someone will literally push me out of the way to get to the objective.