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[gigliani60]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

This thread still lives? It should have died long ago. Any class can do objectives at any moment. It doesn't require an infiltrator to do them.

Any class CAN do them, but an infiltrator can engage cloak and get it done avoiding unnessecary downs. Its basic tactics.

[gigliani60]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

gigliani60 wrote...

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

This thread still lives? It should have died long ago. Any class can do objectives at any moment. It doesn't require an infiltrator to do them.

Any class CAN do them, but an infiltrator can engage cloak and get it done avoiding unnessecary downs. Its basic tactics.

And a Salarian Engineer can throw up a Decoy tactically and do the same thing. Only better and longer than TC lasts....

But the Decoy can be bypassed. Phantoms often wont fall for them, and if an enemy sees you before the decoy, they will shoot you

[PejaStojakovic]

Not as irritating as those helpful teammates who cover you, preferrably by standing as close to you as possible.

I am cloaked, I don't need you to attract the enemies. So please just stay with the rest of the team and let me solo the devices.

Modifié par PejaStojakovic, 06 mai 2012 - 10:32 .

[gigliani60]

PejaStojakovic wrote...

Not as irritating as those helpful teammates who cover you, preferrably by standing as close to you as possible.

I am cloaked, I don't need you to attract the enemies. So please just stay with the rest of the team and let me solo the devices.

This.

[Whufpack]

PejaStojakovic wrote...

Not as irritating as those helpful teammates who cover you, preferrably by standing as close to you as possible.

I am cloaked, I don't need you to attract the enemies. So please just stay with the rest of the team and let me solo the devices.

Aw cmon. Don't you wanna just PAL AROUND?!?!?

[bondiboy]

Also very irritating if you are an infiltrator soloing devices and have to constantly revive team mates who have rushed to the scene and straight into an ambush or turret.

[eye basher]

What i really hate about infiltrators is when the download objectives pop up literally right beside them and they can't take 3 steps to the side to get it and as i probably got the last one on the other side of the map i have to run the gaunlet all the way there to get that one to.

[Sinapus]

gigliani60 wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

And a Salarian Engineer can throw up a Decoy tactically and do the same thing. Only better and longer than TC lasts....

But the Decoy can be bypassed. Phantoms often wont fall for them, and if an enemy sees you before the decoy, they will shoot you

Combat drones do attract phantoms if you get them to deploy practically next to them. Setting them to explode when destroyed is also effective. Doesn't kill them, but they do get staggered and delayed. It's also amusing to see them do the melee attack only to have it blow up in their faces. "Hiiii-yah*BOOM* augh!" *deploy another drone*

I have run into situations where I was playing a different class and there was an objective swarming with mobs that an infiltrator could have cloaked and gone in and the rest of us could distract the mobs by shooting at them, but the infilatrator(s) in question were too busy sniping. (In one case, the last one was just down the ramp on the landing pad at White and I even got on the mike and noted that an infilatrator could go down under cloak and get it while we fired at the nearby enemies. Ended up having to do it myself and somehow survived.)

I also have been that cloaked infiltrator trying to activate the objective while someone stands right next to me and a grenade gets thrown at him.

Modifié par Sinapus, 07 mai 2012 - 12:50 .

[Rokayt]

guitarsniper wrote...

Also people who start disabling a device while the infiltrator is on their way there. Seriously, during these waves, let the infiltrator do their job, and you do yours--keeping things off their backs.

I always try to to the job (If 12 pyros are not stacked on the objective, then I let my grenades thin them out first,) but if someone else wants to do it, I generally dont hang around for them, The most I can do is stick a sticky proxy on the corpse.

[darkblade]

I have run into situations where I was playing a different class and there was an objective swarming with mobs that an infiltrator could have cloaked and gone in and the rest of us could distract the mobs by shooting at them, but the infilatrator(s) in question were too busy sniping.

I cant blame him, sounds like suicide to me. Unless the team is a well oil nuclear delivery system and has been functioning as such all match im not just instantly going to have that lvl of faith in my team to go out on that kind of limb.

[Oodle12]

Just had this happen to me, i was an adept so I was far too squishy to get this objective (was in open area), I was constantly telling the infiltrator to stop shooting over voice chat and to do the objective, he wouldn't so I continued to berate him on his idiocy

[blazefreezer]

NewStrings wrote...

I play as an infiltrator maybe 80% of the time, and out of those times, I can only get to the objectives maybe 20% of the time because some krogan or asari always dashes for it. Would it be too much to ask to let the girl who can turn invisible do the objectives? Really? Please? I can do it, you know.

lol

I get what you mean, but when stuff like that happen I just go and cover them.
Infiltrator is the best class for doing missions, long-range shooting, and reviving the team.

When the team you are with is experienced, they WILL expect you, as an infiltrator, to do these missions or to pull out a sneaky revive in an ememy-crowded area. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the game style of the infiltrator needs to change according to the game style of the rest of the team members.
If the members are agressive and all about the kills, focus on the missions and revive on the way (if you can).
If they are more experienced they we'll actually cover you, even thou you are cloaked.

P.S. anyone on PC, can add me( blazeefreezer) to his MP buddy list if he wants. I need to find more cepable people, whom I can trust for Gold runs. (Gold runs - if you can't trust the team, don't enter the mission! Dying on wave 10 sucks....) <_<

[wolfwarp]

Sounds familiar. At times I see more than 1 infiltrator and no stealth in and disable devices.

I think the game should reward credits to those who disable devices. Then you will see all rushing for it. I am thinking of 5k credit per device.

[Sabbatine]

darkblade wrote...

...enemies spawn infinitely otherwise. 

I have never seen any evidence to support this claim.

Enemies appear to spawn on a timeline which is why a round can be so easy if you take out an entire spawn with a cobra missile because you have basically killed half the enemies on the map and you have a certain period of time before more spawn.

Basically, if you were to go through an entire area hack wave you will probably see the same total number of enemies whether you kill them or not, though if you're not killing them you likely won't make it to the end of the timer.

Even if the spawns were unlimited though, the tactical value of being able to manipulate where they spawn is pretty high.

[AdmLancel]

They won't spawn if what they're supposed to replace is still on the map. That's why you don't ever see more than two Banshees at a time (despite knowing full well you killed six that wave). My experience has been two Banshees spawn, they scream, missile nukes them out of existence, a couple seconds later more Banshees scream on the other side of the map. To me it seems like nuking the area of enemies during an objective mission that isn't complete just causes them all to pretty quickly respawn, just hopefully somewhere a ways off to buy you a short breather before they swarm over you again.

[Prawny]

Happened to me yesterday. On Condor/silver/Reapers, 3 non-infiltrators had to disable 4 devices on wave 10, while the only infiltrator guy was just standing (at the other side of the map relative to the objective) around shooting things. Luckily I went Captain Cobra on dem Banshees, so we just about scraped through it.
Surely it can't be too hard to figure out that being invisible stops enemies seeing you, therefore letting you perform actions without being interrupted?

[REVIVE ME]

I play a infiltrator to have fun not to be condemned to the role of saving people after they go down charging into a group, or getting the devices. Some teams don't even have infiltrators and they do the objective, what's your complaint about again?

[xPandaHunterx]

Hey, don't look at me. I'm just as frustrated as you when a Vanguard gets to the objective right before me, and starts doing it (even though he can clearly see me cloaked next to him).

[spawn of apathy]

When playing gold I usually only have 1-2 other friends. So we generally get at least one random. If one of them is an Infiltrator we let them know that their job will be to take care of the objectives. Most of the time, they acknowledge in vein of "of coarse".

When the objective round comes up, the rest of us all call out "not my job". lol

Maybe you need to spell it out for the Infiltrators. Maybe some of them just don't know any better. Maybe they don't realize the special purpose of their class. Maybe they don't know that being the #1 score at the end of the game doesn't give you any more XP or Credits than the lowest scoring player.

[kinglewy00]

On plenty of occasions the group has wiped because while I'm going for the objectives they don't have enough DPS to not get swarmed.
Or they've wiped because they've followed me to the objectives.
Don't assume it's always better to have the infiltrator move on his own rather than the rest of the group as a unit.
Complain about infiltrators not having a clue when you get a clue yourselves.

[darkblade]

spawn of apathy wrote...

When playing gold I usually only have 1-2 other friends. So we generally get at least one random. If one of them is an Infiltrator we let them know that their job will be to take care of the objectives. Most of the time, they acknowledge in vein of "of coarse".

When the objective round comes up, the rest of us all call out "not my job". lol

Maybe you need to spell it out for the Infiltrators. Maybe some of them just don't know any better. Maybe they don't realize the special purpose of their class. Maybe they don't know that being the #1 score at the end of the game doesn't give you any more XP or Credits than the lowest scoring player.

Dont tell me that, if you do i'll just follow you around the map.

[kingtrouble]

spawn of apathy wrote...

When playing gold I usually only have 1-2 other friends. So we generally get at least one random. If one of them is an Infiltrator we let them know that their job will be to take care of the objectives. Most of the time, they acknowledge in vein of "of coarse".

When the objective round comes up, the rest of us all call out "not my job". lol

Maybe you need to spell it out for the Infiltrators. Maybe some of them just don't know any better. Maybe they don't realize the special purpose of their class. Maybe they don't know that being the #1 score at the end of the game doesn't give you any more XP or Credits than the lowest scoring player.

There's a difference between playing with friends and playing with randoms. If the majority of the group are friends then sure you can dedicate jobs. But when your with a random group then you have to read the situation and never really count on others. If there's an empty area with nothing around then anybody can get it, however if there is a croweded area then sure the infiltrator should get it, but that is also dependant on the amount of time left and the mobs moving around, 

[Rayne01]

just got a lovely gold game with 2 infils and a soldier as vanguard.

we got a wave 10 disable devices i clear the surrounding area and go off to distract some fools and obviously our fine invisible gentlemen continue shooting things while the poor sap of a soldier has to try to cap and dies. i go in and res but the enemy comes from 2 sides so its kinda hard to deal with them all so we ****ing die after a while - and all the time the infiltrators do jack **** farting around with their snipers while sitting 5 metres away from the thingie. ><