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[Cutlass Jack]

I joined the Thieves Guild and then got too distracted by shiny objects and random dungeons to side with either of those two.

Though if I were forced to pick, it would probably be Imperial, because they had the better Tavern song.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 06 mai 2012 - 12:09 .

[RedArmyShogun]

FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!! *Hits you in the face with a maul*

[TobiTobsen]

Can't let those pesky rebels secede when you need the power of all the provinces to prepare for another war with the Thalmor.

If Skyrim falls to the Stormcloaks, High Rock is seperated from Cyrodill and the Thalmor will pick them apart, one by one.

Fight for the Empire, fight for Tamriel!

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 06 mai 2012 - 12:46 .

[Nerdage]

They deserve each other. The Imperials allowed the Thalmor to instigate the uprising in the first place, and the rebels are too stupid to see they're being used.

I left them to it, better things to do and all that.

[naughty99]

I think you have to try both. Each side has some legitimate reasons, and you can play different characters with various backstories and reasons why they might ally with one side or the other.

But make sure you get the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, because there is a bug that affects the leveling multiplier for all the civil war quests. Without the USKP, all your enemies will be stuck at a low level in the civil war quests.

[Aeowyn]

I joined the Stormcloaks because keeping Skyrim in the Empire would doom Skyrim. The Empire is broken and I felt the Imperials were just desperately trying to cling on to what little they had left of it. In my opinion Skyrim has a better chance fighting against the Thalmor as an independent nation (looking at the Redguards and Hammerfell) and the Empire is infiltrated to the point of no return to be able to withstand the Thalmor threat now.

[termokanden]

No matter what you do, you're helping the Thalmor. I really hate that about Skyrim. It's so obvious that the Thalmor are the real enemy, but the game doesn't allow you to hurt them in any way.

That said, the Empire did try to execute me, so obviously they had to pay.

Modifié par termokanden, 06 mai 2012 - 02:11 .

[Khayness]

The ones who didn't want to execute me on spot.

[Giggles_Manically]

Depends more on my PC.

Though honestly I feel more sympathy for the Nords than the Empire.
The empire sold out Hammerfell in body, and Skyrim in spirit.

Honestly I HATED that all the work in 4 past games was undone by a bunch of snotty elves. Ulfirc may be a bit of a dick in a few ways, okay a lot of ways but so is the empire and Thalmor.

If you cant protect your own citizens you have ZERO claim to being any type of leader what so ever.
Plus the Stormcloaks I dont see as racist, just very angry that they get treated so poorly.

Added to that if the Redguards could give the Thalmor a swift kick in the balls, why cant the Nords do that as well?

So I more support the Stormcloaks myself.

[TobiTobsen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Added to that if the Redguards could give the Thalmor a swift kick in the balls, why cant the Nords do that as well?

The "swift kick to the balls" was a bloody campaign that left the whole south of Hammerfell devasted and was only possible after the combined Imperial forces of Cyrodil, High Rock and Skyrim destroyed the main army of the Dominion in the Batlle of the Red Ring in the Imperial City.

You can't beat the Dominion alone. The people of Tamriel need each other more then ever. Starting a rebellion in the middle of this mess is not really the way to go.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 06 mai 2012 - 02:42 .

[Get Magna Carter]

Stormcloaks because
1) Imperials are too meek in dealing with Thalmar
2) I don't like siding with someone who tried to have "me" executed
(Note - my character was Dunmer but believed the Stormcloaks would be okay if their respect was earned rather than spending all the time whining about "entitlement" and wanting other people to be your slaves etc)

Modifié par Get Magna Carter, 06 mai 2012 - 02:49 .

[Aeowyn]

The Empire is too weak to fight against the Dominion together. Instead of stretching the few resources they have left across the Empire they should disband the Empire. Add to that the fact that the Empire's "peace treaty" gave the south of Hammerfell away to the Thalmor and banned the worship of Talos... well, do you really expect that the proud Nords and the Redguards (who fought long and hard to get their well-earned land) to just stand aside? An alliance of independent nations would work better to fight against the Thalmor than a unified Empire as it stands now.

[RedArmyShogun]

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

Confess-A-Bear wrote...

FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!! *Hits you in the face with a maul*

Your "Empire" is dead, it died with Uriel Septim it's only a facade that the Thalmor hide behind now, but It doesn't matter which side you pick same amount of Troops either way because they're people not robots, when the war comes everyone will be forced to fight the Thalmor regardless of past aliances, just letting you know: 

"The Empire, a divison of the Thalmor Embassy."

Hmm well spoken good sir, now for my rebutal I offer this


FOR THE EMPIRE!! *Hits you in the face with a maul*

[Costin_Razvan]

Aeowyn wrote...

The Empire is too weak to fight against the Dominion together. Instead of stretching the few resources they have left across the Empire they should disband the Empire. Add to that the fact that the Empire's "peace treaty" gave the south of Hammerfell away to the Thalmor and banned the worship of Talos... well, do you really expect that the proud Nords and the Redguards (who fought long and hard to get their well-earned land) to just stand aside? An alliance of independent nations would work better to fight against the Thalmor than a unified Empire as it stands now.

Assumming said alliance could work together. Different nations don't usually get along so how exactly do you imagine this army of an alliance, if an alliance was even forged in the first place, would work? You wouldn't have one army under a clear leadership following their orders, as you already do and instead you have multiple armies under different leaders that wouldn't necesarily get along trying to work together. Military wise it's the former that gives you a much higher chance of success, not the latter and if the Empire breaks into smaller nations held togheter by an alliance I would place my money on that Thalmor winning because of an organized military.


Also as people pointed out the Redguards devasted their own homeland to stop the Dominion advance, they did not beat them completely.

Oh sure, Skyrim's resources are being used by the Empire, but do you really think a civil war is the best thing in the world right now? Ulfric's mentality is: The Empire is weak so let's leave it, but others are like: No. So instead because half the nation would rather stay in the Empire then leave it and they are slaughtering each other as a result. Yeah that certainly is the way to go.

Civil Wars are started generally because of both sides, not just one or the other. Also why should give a damn just for Skyrim? Assuming I would even see leaving the Empire and waging a bloody civil war as a good for thing for it, which I don't since after every rebelion like that there is always a long period of chaos. For years the nords will have it worse then they did before the war. Thanks to Ulfric.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 mai 2012 - 03:38 .

[DarkDragon777]

The Empire. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could side with the Stormcloaks.

[Sajji]

The Imperials wanted to disconnect my head from my body. In fact, they tried, and almost did.

But beyond that, the suppression of Talos worship directly violates freedom. Yeah, its not a Republic, but I'm pretty sure Daedra worship is fine unless attempts at necromancy coincided, albeit it usually did.

Arguments against a weaker empire vs the Thalmor are ok...until you realize the Thalmor already pull the strings of Cyrodiil.

[DarkDragon777]

Sajji wrote...

The Imperials wanted to disconnect my head from my body. In fact, they tried, and almost did.

But beyond that, the suppression of Talos worship directly violates freedom. Yeah, its not a Republic, but I'm pretty sure Daedra worship is fine unless attempts at necromancy coincided, albeit it usually did.

Arguments against a weaker empire vs the Thalmor are ok...until you realize the Thalmor already pull the strings of Cyrodiil.

Too bad Talos isn't a god.

And all that's necessary  to repel or even destroy the Thalmor is a natural leader who has a plan. The Thalmor pull the strings of Cyrodiil because the Medes are such weak rulers.

Modifié par DarkDragon777, 06 mai 2012 - 03:58 .

[Sajji]

The Thalmor have a big presence in Markarth. Or did until I wiped them out.

[Costin_Razvan]

You can kill the Emperor and still side with the Empire, hoping that someone who isn't such an idiot like the last one takes the throne.

Yes the peace treaty was stupid. But just because one leader of a state is bad doesn't make it a smart idea to dismantle the entire state. Consider the current Emperor as Rudolf II, does that mean that the Thirty Year war started after that because of his inept leadership was a good thing? No bloody way.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 mai 2012 - 04:27 .