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[android654]

Blacklash93 wrote...

That's just bizzare. I know schools fund some useless things, but this is taking it to a whole new level. At least those other programs try to teach some type (however trivial) of practical or analytical skills. I see nothing that you can take away from this event other than the fact that some people will come up with increasingly... "creative" ways to reach sexual gratification and all the professor needed to do was tell his students to type in a few keywords into a search engine to have them find that out.

I respect the sexual studies of psychology and sociology as those things are indeed aspects of the human mind, interaction, and civilization that are worth understanding, but when you get into stuff like "drilldos" and "****saws" in this kind of crudely excessive detail you're definitely losing track of what's worthwhile in the field. I'd probably also feel the need to question what exactly you're in it for.

Have you ever taken a basic course in psychology? Freud discoverd long ago that human sexuality and the nature of sex is very closely tied to behavioral psychology. To understand one you need an understanding of the other.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

@Imperial Sentinel Arian


Always gotta bring faith into a discussion huh? Can't you keep your bulllsh*t to yourself?

Be silent you maggot.

Facts are made up Facere: to make
Every fact is a believe.
You put faith in your scientific facts (believes) and deny anything else.

[Blacklash93]

I am quite aware of that. I just don't see why they need to show a woman activley masturbating on a stage using sex toy in order to understand the sexuality behind it.

[android654]

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

@Imperial Sentinel Arian


Always gotta bring faith into a discussion huh? Can't you keep your bulllsh*t to yourself?

Be silent you maggot.

Facts are made up Facere: to make
Every fact is a believe.
You put faith in your scientific facts (believes) and deny anything else.

I'm pretty sure Asylums have limits on the amount of hours a patient can be on the computer. You'll definitely be in trouble when the nurses find out you're not in bed.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

android654 wrote...

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

@Imperial Sentinel Arian


Always gotta bring faith into a discussion huh? Can't you keep your bulllsh*t to yourself?

Be silent you maggot.

Facts are made up Facere: to make
Every fact is a believe.
You put faith in your scientific facts (believes) and deny anything else.

I'm pretty sure Asylums have limits on the amount of hours a patient can be on the computer. You'll definitely be in trouble when the nurses find out you're not in bed.

Ah shut up. I've never seen such scientist zealots in 2 years of my BSN history.

It's fascinating how you cut something from the ultimate reality without knowing the other parts of it and call it science, then butchering everyone who thinks beyond it and doesn't submit to your facts.

[android654]

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

android654 wrote...

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

@Imperial Sentinel Arian


Always gotta bring faith into a discussion huh? Can't you keep your bulllsh*t to yourself?

Be silent you maggot.

Facts are made up Facere: to make
Every fact is a believe.
You put faith in your scientific facts (believes) and deny anything else.

I'm pretty sure Asylums have limits on the amount of hours a patient can be on the computer. You'll definitely be in trouble when the nurses find out you're not in bed.

Ah shut up. I've never seen such scientist zealots in 2 years of my BSN history.

It's fascinating how you cut something from the ultimate reality without knowing the other parts of it and call it science, then butchering everyone who thinks beyond it and doesn't submit to your facts.

Have any facts with that hyperbole?

You wouldn't be that crazy person on 3rd avenue with the sandwich board saying, "the end is nigh," are you?

[Blacklash93]

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

It's fascinating how you cut something from the ultimate reality without knowing the other parts of it and call it science, then butchering everyone who thinks beyond it and doesn't submit to your facts.

You do know that part of science is knowing that we don't have all the answers, right? And that the answers we do have may need to be revised or scrapped?

And if you're making all these accusations about intolerance from a mainstream religious standpoint, I'm quite tempted to ask how much you actually know about the history of your church.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 08 mai 2012 - 03:42 .

[android654]

jreezy wrote...

android654 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

I'm not gonna look it up, but is it a sawzall with a ****** instead of a blade? Cause that's..

insane.

Despite the fact that the name explains what it is, how does anyone not know what a drilldo is? Do people live under rocks?

I've never heard of such a thing but you're right, the name itself explains what the device is.

Ok, perhaps I travel slightly more colorful circles than most, but I'm surprised in this day and age people are unaware what a lot of these things are.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

It's fascinating how you cut something from the ultimate reality without knowing the other parts of it and call it science, then butchering everyone who thinks beyond it and doesn't submit to your facts.

You do know that part of science is knowing that we don't have all the answers, right? And that the answers we do have may need to be revised or scrapped?

And if you're saying all this from a religious standpoint, I'm quite tempted to ask how much you actually know about the history of your church because they've been guilty of the exact same things.

From what I hear from the certainty of vocal scientists of today, not sure...

Our fanatic Mosques, Muftis and Mullahs has ordered to butcher all the infidels in India and other possible pagans around the world through history, plus all the heretics!

But I'm a deist thinker, like Elites of America's founders, but not so liberal.

[Inquisitor Recon]

android654 wrote...
Whatever your ignorant opinions may be, the study of this helps psychologists help their patients. It also helps our understnading of the human mind which is one of the most important things we can do as a society. Just because your sexual experiences may be vanilla, it may not be true for others, and they could be tied to a host of other psychological components. It's vital for health professionals to understand as much as they can in their respective fields, otherwise they're no good to their patients.

Ah yes. My "ignorant" opinions that people should learn useful skills and knowledge that actually contributes to society. I have respect for real psychologists and the work that they do, but *this* isn't real psychology. I rather doubt this "professor" would even acknowledge that there is anything wrong with these individuals. Compared to sex offenders, swingers, etc. I am quite glad that my sexual experiences are "vanilla". We all know that there are many people out there who are downright sick in the head. Yet displays like this accomplish nothing.

Let us be realists here. We both know that most of these students taking a "human sexuality" course aren't there for the most noble of intentions.

When these students graduate and wonder why they have so much college debt and why they can't find a job, I hope they remember taking classes like this. One should always factor in employment opportunity into what they choose to study. And the fact is that this country neds more engineers, more people with technical and mechanical skills, not more experts on sexuality. Knowing the fullest extent that people will degrade themselves to is not necessarily a good thing.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 08 mai 2012 - 03:57 .

[Blacklash93]

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

From what I hear from the certainty of vocal scientists of today, not sure...

Assuming these scientists you're talking about aren't being jackasses to others when they talk about their theories, it's quite easy say something in a way that implies certainty when collected evidence overwhelmingly points a certain way or if the scientist in question is geeking out over their research. That doesn't mean they don't recognize there's a chance they may be off.

Most religious people talk with a ton of certainty, as well, even though their beliefs could easily be wrong (even moreso than scientific theories as there is no concrete evidence to back them). I don't see the difference when a scientist does it.

[TEWR]

Was she good looking?

slimgrin wrote...

Sign me up for that class.

This.

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To be serious though, I can't see why the teacher's getting any flak for it. Seems to be by the book.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 mai 2012 - 04:32 .

[TheMufflon]

A course on human sexuality included displays of actual human sexuality!? How has this professor's doctorate not been revoked yet? Does he not know what "Academia" means?

Modifié par TheMufflon, 08 mai 2012 - 04:42 .

[UnstableMongoose]

android654 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

That's just bizzare. I know schools fund some useless things, but this is taking it to a whole new level. At least those other programs try to teach some type (however trivial) of practical or analytical skills. I see nothing that you can take away from this event other than the fact that some people will come up with increasingly... "creative" ways to reach sexual gratification and all the professor needed to do was tell his students to type in a few keywords into a search engine to have them find that out.

I respect the sexual studies of psychology and sociology as those things are indeed aspects of the human mind, interaction, and civilization that are worth understanding, but when you get into stuff like "drilldos" and "****saws" in this kind of crudely excessive detail you're definitely losing track of what's worthwhile in the field. I'd probably also feel the need to question what exactly you're in it for.

Have you ever taken a basic course in psychology? Freud discoverd long ago that human sexuality and the nature of sex is very closely tied to behavioral psychology. To understand one you need an understanding of the other.

Freud is now considered bull****. Keep up with the times.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

greengoron89 wrote...

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Man, just how far is this guy willing to go to teach his class about human sexuality? Will he hire escorts for his students next? Or perhaps have them film pornos for one of their assignments?

I certainly wouldnt mind him doing something like that. But I invoke exterminatus upon porn.

I'm afraid I could only participate in such a course if he hired escorts for a porno - one which also featured swingers, strippers, and drilldos, of course.

It could be the final exam of the course, making sure you... ahem... retain everything you learned.

Reminds me of the most recent austin powers movie, where Mr. Powers is at Spy Academy.

[Blacklash93]

ReconTeam wrote...

Ah yes. My "ignorant" opinions that people should learn useful skills and knowledge that actually contributes to society. I have respect for real psychologists and the work that they do, but *this* isn't real psychology. I rather doubt this "professor" would even acknowledge that there is anything wrong with these individuals. Compared to sex offenders, swingers, etc. I am quite glad that my sexual experiences are "vanilla". We all know that there are many people out there who are downright sick in the head. Yet displays like this accomplish nothing.

Let us be realists here. We both know that most of these students taking a "human sexuality" course aren't there for the most noble of intentions.

When these students graduate and wonder why they have so much college debt and why they can't find a job, I hope they remember taking classes like this. One should always factor in employment opportunity into what they choose to study. And the fact is that this country neds more engineers, more people with technical and mechanical skills, not more experts on sexuality. Knowing the fullest extent that people will degrade themselves to is not necessarily a good thing.

Understanding sexuality does contribute psych field, which does contribute to society. A course subject like this, in theory, should be useful for anyone majoring in psych. The course probably contributes to psych major, on that note. If "lectures" like this are a regular, though, I doubt there's much of to learn from it.

Being interested in studying sexuality doesn't make you perverted, if that's what you're trying to get across. If a student is going just by the name of the class, I doubt they're expecting much titilating material being presented to them. But I'm sure this teacher and his course had a reputation so you're probably right in this case.

I don't think most, if any, of these students are trying to be sex experts, as you're trying to assume. They're probably aiming for a psych major or are taking the class besides their major for fun. And if you're seriously spiting the students for not pursuing the careers you see as ideal for this country I hope you're aware these people have every right to pursue the career of their choice and not be looked down on for it. People will do what they're interested in and what makes them happy, not what you or anyone else wants. None of us are any different so we have no right to belittle them for it.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 08 mai 2012 - 05:31 .

[UnstableMongoose]

greengoron89 wrote...

UnstableMongoose wrote...

Freud is now considered bull****. Keep up with the times.

So... how does that change the fact that human psychology and sexuality are deeply intertwined, exactly?

Because sexuality is a smaller part of human psychology than originally theorized, and such a crass display as we're discussing has no academic value in terms of understanding human behavior.

[Lotion Soronarr]

greengoron89 wrote...
How did it come to be that depictions of violence are more acceptable than a displaying a woman's bare breasts? Does no one other than I see the inherent flaw in these bizarre lines of thought society has about these things?

Indeed.
We should ban and censor violence too.


Buit all of this is utterly redicolous. Why do poeple go to such redicolous extreemes? In both censorship and displaying everything.

[Lotion Soronarr]

android654 wrote...
There have been blogs written by his students, both past and present, and they claim this type of thing was typical in Dr. Bailey's course. He's taken his class on field trips to transvestite beauty contests, sex shops and gay communities.

So he really has a few screws loose in his head.....

[Lotion Soronarr]

android654 wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Ah, the state of education in the western world...

Seriously, learn engineering, learn math, learn important history. This... whatever you want to call it contributes nothing. That's not psychology, it's just sick.

Substitute anthropology with sociology and you get the picture.

Whatever your ignorant opinions may be, the study of this helps psychologists help their patients. It also helps our understnading of the human mind which is one of the most important things we can do as a society. Just because your sexual experiences may be vanilla, it may not be true for others, and they could be tied to a host of other psychological components. It's vital for health professionals to understand as much as they can in their respective fields, otherwise they're no good to their patients.

Dude...there are studies and volonteers for that.
You dotn' do it at an uni. You dont' use your students as test subjects.

It's f***ed up, plain and simple.

All this "for science" BS is downright insulting. For science my ass.

Now excuse me..I have to go kick babies, shag sheep and form a KKK clan...FOR SCIENCE!
Because..you know..we have to study human psychology.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

It's fascinating how you cut something from the ultimate reality without knowing the other parts of it and call it science, then butchering everyone who thinks beyond it and doesn't submit to your facts.

You do know that part of science is knowing that we don't have all the answers, right? And that the answers we do have may need to be revised or scrapped?

And if you're making all these accusations about intolerance from a mainstream religious standpoint, I'm quite tempted to ask how much you actually know about the history of your church.

I'm tempted to ask you how much you know about Stalin, USSR, Pol Pot and North Korea.

I'm still waiting for one of you Dr. Bailey supportors to explain how seeing a woman getting banged and anal gaped in front of you could be educational in any way...

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 08 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[android654]

greengoron89 wrote...

UnstableMongoose wrote...

Freud is now considered bull****. Keep up with the times.

So... how does that change the fact that human psychology and sexuality are deeply intertwined, exactly?

That's simple. First Freud is still held in high regard and is considered the father of modern psychology. Also Freud's relevance in general psychology isn't applicable here because this course was about sexuality entirely. In other words, it does change anything about human sexuality and the connections it has to the human mind.