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[android654]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

android654 wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Ah, the state of education in the western world...

Seriously, learn engineering, learn math, learn important history. This... whatever you want to call it contributes nothing. That's not psychology, it's just sick.

Substitute anthropology with sociology and you get the picture.

Whatever your ignorant opinions may be, the study of this helps psychologists help their patients. It also helps our understnading of the human mind which is one of the most important things we can do as a society. Just because your sexual experiences may be vanilla, it may not be true for others, and they could be tied to a host of other psychological components. It's vital for health professionals to understand as much as they can in their respective fields, otherwise they're no good to their patients.

Dude...there are studies and volonteers for that.
You dotn' do it at an uni. You dont' use your students as test subjects.

It's f***ed up, plain and simple.

All this "for science" BS is downright insulting. For science my ass.

Now excuse me..I have to go kick babies, shag sheep and form a KKK clan...FOR SCIENCE!
Because..you know..we have to study human psychology.

Did you read the article? He never used a student as a test subject or a speaker. This was a guest speaker he reached out to who volunteered their time to demonstrate and speak to the students.

What the f**k do any of those things have to do with the topic?

[Blacklash93]

Elton John is dead wrote...

I'm tempted to ask you how much you know about Stalin, USSR, Pol Pot and North Korea.

I never said people haven't used science as a rationale to hurt people. I'm saying people who point that out in defending mainstream religious viewpoints, acting like scientists and those who believe in science are susecptible to corruption and pride more than others, aren't acknoledgeing that almost all religious organizations are guilty of the exact same crimes throughout history and some still commit them. Everyone is far from innocent and highlighting one side's crimes and downplaying/ignoring the other's is just plain skewed.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 08 mai 2012 - 01:51 .

[Elhanan]

Assuming for the moment that such an event did occur, it should be filed under other foolish, immature refuse being falsly labled as educational. Man should also be brought up on charges if the local DA believes it violates extant laws of decency. IMO.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

I'm tempted to ask you how much you know about Stalin, USSR, Pol Pot and North Korea.

I never said people haven't used science as a rationale to hurt people. I'm saying people who point that out in defending mainstream religious viewpoints, acting like scientists and those who believe in science are susecptible to corruption and pride more than others, aren't acknoledgeing that almost all religious organizations are guilty of the exact same crimes throughout history and some still commit them. Everyone is far from innocent and highlighting one side's crimes and downplaying/ignoring the other's is just plain skewed.

They weren't scientists though nor were they scientific. They were communists with anti-religious and atheistic ideals. I haven't got anything against science. Only a fool would hate science. With that being said I know that Churches are corrupt which is one of the reasons why I don't go to one.

Anyway the guy above me has summed up what I think of this professor and event.

I mean believe what you want but retain belief in decency and strive to be decent. There are many more ways to teach people about orgasm without getting in a woman and showing her being banged in front of you. What's next? Public scatting for science?

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 08 mai 2012 - 02:01 .

[Joy Divison]

I find it amusing so many posters are chiming in that this was not "real" subject worthy of study.

How many times per year does the average person use algebra? Chemistry? Engineering?

How many times per year do adults have sex? How many times per year do singles pleasure themselves sexually?

[Eternal Phoenix]

^
You don't need a course to learn how to f*ck.

[android654]

Way to completely miss her point.

[bmwcrazy]

Elhanan wrote...

Assuming for the moment that such an event did occur, it should be filed under other foolish, immature refuse being falsly labled as educational. Man should also be brought up on charges if the local DA believes it violates extant laws of decency. IMO.

Considering this event happened in a University's classroom, unless it was completely open to view of the general public (ie doors were not locked and windows were completely open), you wouldn't be able to prosecute them for public indecency or indecent exposure.

I know such demonstration might seem a bit ridiculous to some people, but this didn't happen in Iran.

[android654]

bmwcrazy wrote...
I know such demonstration might seem a bit ridiculous to some people, but this didn't happen in Iran.

You wouldn't know it from reading some of the responses. Not to mention Dr. Bailey is still teaching at the same university, and the school backed him up when the public made this hoopla. It wasn't his students, the university or the local government who said anything, it was people who caught wind of it without knowing what was actually going on.

[Elhanan]

bmwcrazy wrote...

Considering this event happened in a University's classroom, unless it was completely open to view of the general public (ie doors were not locked and windows were completely open), you wouldn't be able to prosecute them for public indecency or indecent exposure.

I know such demonstration might seem a bit ridiculous to some people, but this didn't happen in Iran.

If this event did occur, then I would encourage the officials to look into what laws were violated, and presecute from there. No need to invent laws if something already is on the books. And I doubt that the death penalty is mentioned in context, as opposed to some other locations.

[bmwcrazy]

android654 wrote...

You wouldn't know it from reading some of the responses. Not to mention Dr. Bailey is still teaching at the same university, and the school backed him up when the public made this hoopla. It wasn't his students, the university or the local government who said anything, it was people who caught wind of it without knowing what was actually going on.

Seriously, people are waaaaaay too up tight in BSN.
I can assure you I would get a very different response if I posted this story in a car forum. 

[bmwcrazy]

Elhanan wrote...

If this event did occur, then I would encourage the officials to look into what laws were violated, and presecute from there. No need to invent laws if something already is on the books.

You go ahead and do that. Good luck, buddy. 

[Mylia Stenetch]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

You know, because violence is, whether you like it or not, a neccesary and unavoidable part of life.

And sex isn't?

Interesting point of view you have there.

Sex for reproduction is necessary.

Sex for profit, and public nudity isn't.

....What? What people want to do with their bodies is their choice, if people enjoy pleasure in public it is their choice. Also for one to sell their body for sex (as long as it is healthy) it is perfectly fine.

For the course I am completly for it. My schooling had crap for that and people were very conservative about it. I found some excellent TV shows that went into people sexual deviances/prefences/appeties and it help me understand a lot of the sexual world and be more accepting of our indiviualism that builds our society. 

[Mylia Stenetch]

Joy Divison wrote...

I find it amusing so many posters are chiming in that this was not "real" subject worthy of study.

How many times per year does the average person use algebra? Chemistry? Engineering?

How many times per year do adults have sex? How many times per year do singles pleasure themselves sexually?

^This. We are a sexual beings, as we moved/evolved what ever you like people learn they have different sexual preferences that are not just missionary. If he trying to expand people's mind who want to learn about sexual peferences in a human for them to learn more about our sexual vices, or about themselves that is fine. If the person who masturbated volunteered and it was a private event then there is no breaking of the laws.

Hell I had friends of mine on a Canadian sex show about sexual fetishes, and it was pretty open. They are very normal people, just trying to show others who want to learn something different.

[Elhanan]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
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....What? What people want to do with their bodies is their choice, if people enjoy pleasure in public it is their choice. Also for one to sell their body for sex (as long as it is healthy) it is perfectly fine.

For the course I am completly for it. My schooling had crap for that and people were very conservative about it. I found some excellent TV shows that went into people sexual deviances/prefences/appeties and it help me understand a lot of the sexual world and be more accepting of our indiviualism that builds our society. 

When soneone else's choice is forced upon others, then it becomes problematic. When it violates the freedom of others to not participate and observe such behaviour, it may be criminal.

Sexual discussion and instruction is a key element in many collegiate fields; watching live porn simply does not fall into wise, ethical, or practical educational standards.

[bmwcrazy]

Elhanan wrote...

When soneone else's choice is forced upon others, then it becomes problematic. When it violates the freedom of others to not participate and observe such behaviour, it may be criminal.

Did you even read the article?

[Mylia Stenetch]

Elhanan wrote...

When soneone else's choice is forced upon others, then it becomes problematic. When it violates the freedom of others to not participate and observe such behaviour, it may be criminal.

I never said forced upon in my entire post, it was about the freedom of people want to do and it be respected in society, it was also enforced when I said healthy.

Sexual discussion and instruction is a key element in many collegiate fields; watching live porn simply does not fall into wise, ethical, or practical educational standards. 

In your opinion it is not, to me it is a fine standard to help educate one if that is how they want to learn and it is all through free will. You do not have to like what he did, but is was not unethical whatsoever since it was through choice. He has a long history teaching this course so his wisdom is deep in this subject so I cannot judge his thoughts on it.

His educational standards is unique or oddball, but if it teaches one on the subject he is conveying why stop him? You will not see this everywhere like in math class, but a course that is on human sexuality you should expect it to be a bit of a different teaching methods than what you are use to. There has been many shows that have average people talking about their sexual preference and having live sex in front of the camera. This is nothing new or shocking.

[Elhanan]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

I never said forced upon in my entire post, it was about the freedom of people want to do and it be respected in society, it was also enforced when I said healthy.

In your opinion it is not, to me it is a fine standard to help educate one if that is how they want to learn and it is all through free will. You do not have to like what he did, but is was not unethical whatsoever since it was through choice. He has a long history teaching this course so his wisdom is deep in this subject so I cannot judge his thoughts on it.

His educational standards is unique or oddball, but if it teaches one on the subject he is conveying why stop him? You will not see this everywhere like in math class, but a course that is on human sexuality you should expect it to be a bit of a different teaching methods than what you are use to. There has been many shows that have average people talking about their sexual preference and having live sex in front of the camera. This is nothing new or shocking.

If public sexual performance was displayed, those forced to see it may be offended. It then violates their rights and freedoms. I am not citing the article or your comments other than the idea that it is done publically; not privately.

I do not mind unconventioal educatiobal approaches; watching part of Forbidden Planet and MP: Holy Grail for English Lit is a fond memory for me. But public displays of nudity and sexual performance is far more questionable, and hope that the officials of the university, city, and state look into this matter if it occured.

[Chromie]

Elhanan wrote...
 But public displays of nudity and sexual performance is far more questionable, and hope that the officials of the university, city, and state look into this matter if it occured.

Why is nudity and sex more questionable? 

[Mylia Stenetch]

Elhanan wrote...

If public sexual performance was displayed, those forced to see it may be offended. It then violates their rights and freedoms. I am not citing the article or your comments other than the idea that it is done publically; not privately.

You are going off into another realm which is not about the article in question. What they did was help privatley that you had to opt into, then it is not in public. They were not in the middle of the grass doing this, it was behind closed doors, if you cannot accept that then you should move on quickly cause ignoring the article is not what to do.

For choices of where to have sex, if it is pubic or not it is that person's choice people do it all the time it is not like you see in time square they could of off in a secudled public area doing it. Also I would like to see where this violates one's rights and freedoms.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Skelter192 wrote...

Elhanan wrote...
 But public displays of nudity and sexual performance is far more questionable, and hope that the officials of the university, city, and state look into this matter if it occured.

Why is nudity and sex more questionable? 

Cause in America sex is immoral and bad if you are not a either a man or a women and married. Also it cannot be pleasurable.

[Chromie]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

For choices of where to have sex, if it is pubic or not it is that person's choice people do it all the time it is not like you see in time square they could of off in a secudled public area doing it. Also I would like to see where this violates one's rights and freedoms.

To be fair I have seen people have sex in Times Square and have done my own public sexcapades.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Skelter192 wrote...

To be fair I have seen people have sex in Times Square and have done my own public sexcapades.

Did it violate your freedom and rights? I know a friend who was down in NYC a couple of months ago saw a hooker having sex at a window of some high-rise. Everyone could see her, most people did was take a pic (cause why not) and move on. 

It did not bother her, she shugged and laughed over the silliness of it. I know where I live there are places you do not go at night cause of the sex that happens in public, everyone knows it we just let them do their own thing. Although I guess that what happens in the freedomless world of Canada.

[Chromie]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

To be fair I have seen people have sex in Times Square and have done my own public sexcapades.

Did it violate your freedom and rights?

Oh no I'm not so petty. Hookers are everywhere in NY your bound to see one at work.

Modifié par Skelter192, 08 mai 2012 - 04:32 .