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[Mylia Stenetch]

Skelter192 wrote...

Oh no I'm not so petty. Hookers are every in NY your bound to see one at work.

Yeah I know in Halifax, we see the hookers a lot when the Navy is in for the shore leave, and then the for the gay parade is a big thing here, then there's tranvestite corner. I have only seen one here getting paid, but they are around.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

It did not bother her, she shugged and laughed over the silliness of it. I know where I live there are places you do not go at night cause of the sex that happens in public, everyone knows it we just let them do their own thing. Although I guess that what happens in the freedomless world of Canada.

Just like animals, it seems the post-modern social engineering is performed well.

lol at Freedomless Canada ...

Modifié par Imperial Sentinel Arian, 08 mai 2012 - 04:38 .

[android654]

Elhanan wrote...
When soneone else's choice is forced upon others, then it becomes problematic. When it violates the freedom of others to not participate and observe such behaviour, it may be criminal.

Sexual discussion and instruction is a key element in many collegiate fields; watching live porn simply does not fall into wise, ethical, or practical educational standards.

The f**k are you talking about? Where was it stated people were forced? If you bothered to read the article, you'd know all the students were told before hand what would take place, and had to sign a waiver in order attend the lecture. Not to mention the entire thing was eatra-curricular so it had no affect on the course grades, it was intended as a component to enrich the experience of the course work.

Skelter192 wrote...Oh no I'm not so petty. Hookers are everywhere in NY your bound to see one at work.

The Bronx has Manhattan beat by a mile. There's been like 6 HBO documentaries about Hunt's Point, and I'm pretty sure some of those women are still there. Which is kind of weird, since Hunt's Point is empty like all the time.

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
Did it violate your freedom and rights? I know a friend who was down in NYC a couple of months ago saw a hooker having sex at a window of some high-rise. Everyone could see her, most people did was take a pic (cause why not) and move on.

If you don't, try living in an apartment building. I've seen so many things as a kid that could've easily been private by closing the curtains. From people having sex to a guy masturbating on the fire escape. There are probably a handful of things I haven't seen people do that would shock me.

Joy Divison wrote...I find it amusing so many posters are chiming in that this was not "real" subject worthy of study.

How many times per year do adults have sex? How many times per year do singles pleasure themselves sexually?

bmwcrazy wrote... Seriously, people are waaaaaay too up tight in BSN.

[android654]

greengoron89 wrote...

I'm not even sure why prostitution is still illegal in the U.S. - it would be a multi-million dollar industry if it were legalized and would generate some massive moolah for the state if they taxed it.

Being a legitimate business, it would also be better regulated and make abuse far less prevalent, and perhaps you wouldn't hear about prostitutes turning up dead all the time because "no one cares about them."

But hey, what can you do? We live in a "free country." Lawlz.

I don't know why they haven't done so already. It seems to work for Nevada really well, and this economy could use the taxes they'd get from an industry that would easily garnish billions a year.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Just like animals, it seems the post-modern social engineering is performed well.

lol at Freedomless Canada ...

Well yes we are apart of the animal kingdom? You do know we evolved next to those savages called humans. Yeah we have a charter of rights, not this silly freedom of rights.

[Mylia Stenetch]

android654 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

I'm not even sure why prostitution is still illegal in the U.S. - it would be a multi-million dollar industry if it were legalized and would generate some massive moolah for the state if they taxed it.

Being a legitimate business, it would also be better regulated and make abuse far less prevalent, and perhaps you wouldn't hear about prostitutes turning up dead all the time because "no one cares about them."

But hey, what can you do? We live in a "free country." Lawlz.

I don't know why they haven't done so already. It seems to work for Nevada really well, and this economy could use the taxes they'd get from an industry that would easily garnish billions a year.

Dunno but it looks like Brothels are going to be legalized in Canada soon. Next on the bill is marijuana being legalized if certain things happen. Also Netherlands, is doing pretty well with their legalization, and it is actually strict on certain points and respectable.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

greengoron89 wrote...

I'm not even sure why prostitution is still illegal in the U.S. - it would be a multi-million dollar industry if it were legalized and would generate some massive moolah for the state if they taxed it.

Being a legitimate business, it would also be better regulated and make abuse far less prevalent, and perhaps you wouldn't hear about prostitutes turning up dead all the time because "no one cares about them."

But hey, what can you do? We live in a "free country." Lawlz.

I'm done with your interpretation of freedom.

"... women painted like prostitutes, the efforts of writers to win popularity by ridiculing in their novels and plays the correctness of well-bred people, and the bad taste shown even by the nobility and old princely families in throwing off every kind of social restraint and time-honoured custom: all of these go to prove that it is now the vulgar mob that gives the tone."

"To-day we live so cowed under the bombardment of this intellectual artillery that hardly anyone can attain to the inward detachment that is required for a clear view of the monstrous drama. The will-to-power operating under a pure democratic disguise has finished off its masterpiece so well that the object's sense of freedom is actually flattered by the most thorough-going enslavement that has ever existed."

- Spengler

[Lotion Soronarr]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
....What? What people want to do with their bodies is their choice, if people enjoy pleasure in public it is their choice. Also for one to sell their body for sex (as long as it is healthy) it is perfectly fine.

And if I enjoy racial slurs in public, it's my choice?

For the course I am completly for it. My schooling had crap for that and people were very conservative about it. I found some excellent TV shows that went into people sexual deviances/prefences/appeties and it help me understand a lot of the sexual world and be more accepting of our indiviualism that builds our society. 

Pfft..accepting of insanity is insanity.


Us too uptigth? Yeah right..It's you lot that has no sense of decency at all.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
Cause in America sex is immoral and bad if you are not a either a man or a women and married. Also it cannot be pleasurable.

No.
More because it's a private thing, and dangling your privated parts in other peopels faces in NOT considered civilized behavior. There is a reason people wear clothes. There is a reason we do not f*** on the streets like animals.

And that's because we have brains to control whatever urges we have.

Learning. Yeah right. Books exist for a reason. Taking students to a strip club or borthel may be an "experience" but sure not in any practical learnign way.

Freedom? Freedom my ass. Seems poeple are more slaves to their rampant urges now then they ever were before.

[Mylia Stenetch]

[quote]Lotion Soronnar wrote...

And if I enjoy racial slurs in public, it's my choice?
[/qoute]

Sure you can, just expect to get beat down when you say it to someone. What one person does is fine, it is his choice he has to live with the consequence.



[quote[
Pfft..accepting of insanity is insanity.


Us too uptigth? Yeah right..It's you lot that has no sense of decency at all.
[/quote]

One it is not insane people decided to go to that class to learn something they did not need to go to it, and it was in a closed off enviroment, there is nothing wrong with that. Also since you do not know me and my decency. I do have it, I repesct other choices what they make in life. I am sorry my opinions do not gel with your up-tight manors.

[Elhanan]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

You are going off into another realm which is not about the article in question. What they did was help privatley that you had to opt into, then it is not in public. They were not in the middle of the grass doing this, it was behind closed doors, if you cannot accept that then you should move on quickly cause ignoring the article is not what to do.

For choices of where to have sex, if it is pubic or not it is that person's choice people do it all the time it is not like you see in time square they could of off in a secudled public area doing it. Also I would like to see where this violates one's rights and freedoms.

Your prior quote was the ref:

....What? What people want to do with their bodies is their choice, if people enjoy pleasure in public it is their choice. Also for one to sell their body for sex (as long as it is healthy) it is perfectly fine.

It is not perfectly fine if such displays tread on the rights and freedoms of others. The freedom and rights laid out by current laws of behaviour and decency are a good place to start, as well as the right to persue happiness. And watching someone expose themselves in public does not make everyone happy.

[Elhanan]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Cause in America sex is immoral and bad if you are not a either a man or a women and married. Also it cannot be pleasurable.

Hyperbole or bias speaking? Prejudice is not an attractive feature for anyone....

[Mylia Stenetch]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
No.
More because it's a private thing, and dangling your privated parts in other peopels faces in NOT considered civilized behavior. There is a reason people wear clothes. There is a reason we do not f*** on the streets like animals.

And that's because we have brains to control whatever urges we have.

Learning. Yeah right. Books exist for a reason. Taking students to a strip club or borthel may be an "experience" but sure not in any practical learnign way.

Freedom? Freedom my ass. Seems poeple are more slaves to their rampant urges now then they ever were before.

So then nude beaches should be banned? Also good work making such a huge hyperbole with what I said. I never knew people choosing to be nude in public means sticking their nake bodies in people's faces. What you stated is not civilized, but funny I see people nude in some sort of the manor who are completly fine in the nude and are very civilized people.

That is not based on urges, what I say about people being naked does not make them a lesser being with more animial instincts. You are calling upon serial people who want to do harm instead of feeling comfortable. Also as I said several times the students choose this and they accepted what he offered they learned what they wanted to learn.

Also to slavery to basser instincts. That could be true but people have more freedoms to be open with their sexuality and their preferences, than before where masturbating was sinful. Get off your high horse.

[Elhanan]

greengoron89 wrote...

I'm not even sure why prostitution is still illegal in the U.S. - it would be a multi-million dollar industry if it were legalized and would generate some massive moolah for the state if they taxed it.

Being a legitimate business, it would also be better regulated and make abuse far less prevalent, and perhaps you wouldn't hear about prostitutes turning up dead all the time because "no one cares about them."

But hey, what can you do? We live in a "free country." Lawlz.

Yes; it works out so well for everyone, doesn't it.....

[Eternal Phoenix]

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

@Imperial Sentinel Arian


Always gotta bring faith into a discussion huh? Can't you keep your bulllsh*t to yourself?

Be silent you maggot.

Facts are made up Facere: to make
Every fact is a believe.
You put faith in your scientific facts (believes) and deny anything else.

When did I state I only believe in Science, don't put words in my mouth you ignorant f*ck.

Shut up gay demon! I challenge thee to a duel!

*Slaps thee around the face with a glove*

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 08 mai 2012 - 06:22 .

[android654]

Elhanan wrote...

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Cause in America sex is immoral and bad if you are not a either a man or a women and married. Also it cannot be pleasurable.

Hyperbole or bias speaking? Prejudice is not an attractive feature for anyone....

It's rather accurate. I'm American, and can tell you the majority of this country is very closeted about sexuality and as a result we have an abundance of people who are willfully ignorant to the basic fundamentals of sexuality and sex in general.

Modifié par android654, 08 mai 2012 - 06:29 .

[Elhanan]

android654 wrote...

The **** are you talking about? Where was it stated people were forced? If you bothered to read the article, you'd know all the students were told before hand what would take place, and had to sign a waiver in order attend the lecture. Not to mention the entire thing was eatra-curricular so it had no affect on the course grades, it was intended as a component to enrich the experience of the course work.

The Bronx has Manhattan beat by a mile. There's been like 6 HBO documentaries about Hunt's Point, and I'm pretty sure some of those women are still there. Which is kind of weird, since Hunt's Point is empty like all the time.

bmwcrazy wrote... Seriously, people are waaaaaay too up tight in BSN.

Was answering the context of public displays of sexuality; not the article. Seems tolerance is only called for on one side of an issue, huh?

And whether or not I am 'too up tight', prudish, priggish, Victorian, etc. in my personal beliefs, that is also protected by the same rights and freedoms; correct? Or is this another one sided display of freedom we seek?

Modifié par Elhanan, 08 mai 2012 - 06:29 .

[Elhanan]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Dunno but it looks like Brothels are going to be legalized in Canada soon. Next on the bill is marijuana being legalized if certain things happen. Also Netherlands, is doing pretty well with their legalization, and it is actually strict on certain points and respectable.

Perhaps, unless one discounts and defines drug addiction and human trafficking as 'respecable'.....

[android654]

Elhanan wrote...

android654 wrote...

The **** are you talking about? Where was it stated people were forced? If you bothered to read the article, you'd know all the students were told before hand what would take place, and had to sign a waiver in order attend the lecture. Not to mention the entire thing was eatra-curricular so it had no affect on the course grades, it was intended as a component to enrich the experience of the course work.

The Bronx has Manhattan beat by a mile. There's been like 6 HBO documentaries about Hunt's Point, and I'm pretty sure some of those women are still there. Which is kind of weird, since Hunt's Point is empty like all the time.

bmwcrazy wrote... Seriously, people are waaaaaay too up tight in BSN.

Was answering the context of public displays of sexuality; not the article. Seems tolerance is only called for on one side of an issue, huh?

And whether or not I am 'too up tight', prudish, priggish, Victorian, etc. in my personal beliefs, that is also protected by the same rights and freedoms; correct? Or is this another one sided display of freedom we seek?

Well when one side is in favor of allowing people to be responsible for themselves and answer to themselves when it comes to something as individualistic as sex, and the other side turns their noses up at the notion of people not behaving in a manner they deem correct, then yes the arguement is one sided. No one has the right to tell people what is acceptable sexually when everyone is a participating member. If you rather keep everything about yourself private and hidden away, that's your own problem to deal with. But when you think you're "need" for privacy is the only way to approach a subject, then you could not be more wrong.

As for public displays of sex, some countries have laws against it and others don't. That's really the only unit of measure you can apply to whether or not people should be allowed to do something, not your own personal code of ethics. Those are defined differently from person to person for a reason.

Modifié par android654, 08 mai 2012 - 06:44 .

[Elhanan]

android654 wrote...

It's rather accurate. I'm American, and can tell you the majority of this country is very closeted about sexuality and as a result we have an abundance of people who are willfully ignorant to the basic fundamentals of sexuality and sex in general.

Welcome; am American, too.! And here we both have freedom and rights, as well as they do not infringe, break, spoil, etc the rights and freedoms of others. And here we have the right to be closeted or open as we wish privately, within the laws of course.

Both have rights and freedoms under the law.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Elhanan wrote...

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Dunno but it looks like Brothels are going to be legalized in Canada soon. Next on the bill is marijuana being legalized if certain things happen. Also Netherlands, is doing pretty well with their legalization, and it is actually strict on certain points and respectable.

Perhaps, unless one discounts and defines drug addiction and human trafficking as 'respecable'.....

WTF man? You are going at an extreme here. 
Marijuana  is about as dangerous as cigarettes and alcohol, and not sure on how your laws work, but up here everything is heavily regulated and taxed strongly. This would curb illegal sales of marijuana if done properly. Also brothers which would hire clean prostitues and once again be regulated for safety. Also providing safety to people who choose to do this for a job.

All the extremes you slap on here is already happening. This would help curb these issues since protitution would not be illegal which cuts the black market and people would not be buying laced drugs which cause people to go harder.

....What? What people want to do with their bodies is their choice, if people enjoy pleasure in public it is their choice. Also for one to sell their body for sex (as long as it is healthy) it is perfectly fine.

It is not perfectly fine if such displays tread on the rights and freedoms of others. The freedom and rights laid out by current laws of behaviour and decency are a good place to start, as well as the right to persue happiness. And watching someone expose themselves in public does not make everyone happy. 

 

You are assuming they are going full bareback in Time Sqaue (for example). I said public area which could be anywhere. It is their choice, just as it is you choice not to watch, call them out, or join in. Also who is to say that is what makes them happy and for you to infringe on their happiness.

Modifié par Mylia Stenetch, 08 mai 2012 - 06:51 .

[bmwcrazy]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

And if I enjoy racial slurs in public, it's my choice?

 

It is your choice. You're totally free to do so as long as you keep in mind that you're reponsible for your actions.

Lotion Soronnar wrote... 
Us too uptigth? Yeah right..It's you lot that has no sense of decency at all.

The demostration was not done in public. It was shown privately to those who had agreed to.

Just because you believe it is indecent or morally wrong, it does not mean that you are allowed to quickly judge other posters who are trying to be open-minded about something that they DID NOT witness.