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[Elhanan]

android654 wrote...

You're telling me. It's almost like people don't care about the discussion but want to make a point that sex should be done their way. And by their way they mean under the covers, lights off, man on top, little movement.

And anyone is welcome to review this thread, and actually see who is showing the bigoted behaviour; the ones that oppose such demonstrations, or the ones that attempt to ridicule those with differing beliefs.

Toodles!

[Chromie]

Elhanan wrote...
 I still believe to understand the educational concept that a public display of sexual performance is less about knowledge.

What PUBLIC performance are you talking about? You say you try to be accurate yet you obviously aren't. 

Modifié par Skelter192, 08 mai 2012 - 10:14 .

[Chromie]

greengoron89 wrote...

I see - so it's not bigoted for people to invoke their personal beliefs to determine when, where, and how other people have sex, but it is bigoted for people to state their opinions to the contrary?

Interesting.

Now your getting it!

greengoron89 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

When will Roman orgy parties become more commonplace?

Oh, they exist - they're just held by secret societies of influential men and women who wear Venetian masks. I hear they're invite only, though, and those outside of the society who know about them mysteriously disappear...

...oh snap!

 

I said commonplace. 

Modifié par Skelter192, 08 mai 2012 - 10:16 .

[android654]

[quote]greengoron89 wrote...

[quote]Skelter192 wrote...

When will Roman orgy parties become more commonplace? [/quote]

Oh, they exist - they're just held by secret societies of influential men and women who wear Venetian masks. I hear they're invite only, though, and those outside of the society who know about them mysteriously disappear...

...oh snap!
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I said commonplace. 

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I think you need to be an investment banker like in Eyes Wide Shut in order to have a theater full of people watching orgies.

[UnstableMongoose]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Elhanan wrote...
The problems seen in the model you suggested seemed to happen in the post-legalized Netherlands. As it did see harm occur, I see even less reason to try it again. Pass.

Try again, it happens all over the world, Netherlands is trying something different to help curb it, which I now repeated twice to you. Not eleminate it, curb the issues. Also you are still dropping extremes. What is you opinion on prostitues have a safe work enviroment?

This is all well and good, but the most reasonable statistics suggest that human trafficking for purposes of prostitution increases when prostitution is legalized in a region. Now, I'm not saying our system is perfect, but legalization actually tends to complicate things, or it least it has in such places as legalization has been enacted.

This is not to say that a system of legalization could never be found which protects against the abuses of human trafficking, but as of yet, such a thing does not exist.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
And if I enjoy racial slurs in public, it's my choice?

Sure you can, just expect to get beat down when you say it to someone. What one person does is fine, it is his choice he has to live with the consequence.

Then if people exhibiting such reprehensible behavior and practices as the professor in the articel, get beaten to a pulp, it is OK then?

If you use "enjoyment", "freedom" and "research" as blanket words to justify hedonims, keep in mind they can also be used to justify...EVERYTHING ELSE.

One it is not insane people decided to go to that class to learn something they did not need to go to it, and it was in a closed off enviroment, there is nothing wrong with that. Also since you do not know me and my decency. I do have it, I repesct other choices what they make in life. I am sorry my opinions do not gel with your up-tight manors.

As I said..insane...all of it.

[Chromie]

[quote]Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Sure you can, just expect to get beat down when you say it to someone. What one person does is fine, it is his choice he has to live with the consequence.[/quote]


Then if people exhibiting such reprehensible behavior and practices as the professor in the articel, get beaten to a pulp, it is OK then?
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He informed people and it wasn't mandatory. It was a the students choice to go. What the hell is so hard to understand about that? It wasn't public.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
That is not based on urges, what I say about people being naked does not make them a lesser being with more animial instincts. You are calling upon serial people who want to do harm instead of feeling comfortable. Also as I said several times the students choose this and they accepted what he offered they learned what they wanted to learn.

Yeah, they choose to go there to "learn":whistle:
As if...
Such a pethetic excuse. WHAT exactly did they learn that couldn't have been learned another way?

Also to slavery to basser instincts. That could be true but people have more freedoms to be open with their sexuality and their preferences, than before where masturbating was sinful. Get off your high horse.

It is you who are on the high horse, thinking you are championing human freedoms and liberty.

[Lotion Soronarr]

bmwcrazy wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

And if I enjoy racial slurs in public, it's my choice?

 

It is your choice. You're totally free to do so as long as you keep in mind that you're reponsible for your actions.

By that logic, you are not allowed to try to stop me, sanction me or condemn me regardless of what I do, as long as it's the name of freedom and science.

Spreading racism? My choice of words, my freedom. Also, research into psychology.
Goading people into sucide? My choice of words, my freedom. Also, research into psychology.

Lines to draw? What lines?

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 09 mai 2012 - 10:20 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Skelter192 wrote...

He informed people and it wasn't mandatory. It was a the students choice to go. What the hell is so hard to understand about that? It wasn't public.

When I organize a Klu-Klux clan meeting, I also inform and it's nto public. Perfectly fine then?

It's a mockery, not a study.

[Chromie]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

He informed people and it wasn't mandatory. It was a the students choice to go. What the hell is so hard to understand about that? It wasn't public.

When I organize a Klu-Klux clan meeting, I also inform and it's nto public. Perfectly fine then?

It's a mockery, not a study.

The KKK can march,meet and peak in public or private. Have you not heard of Free Speech? I may not agree with their views but they within their rights to do.

Modifié par Skelter192, 09 mai 2012 - 10:28 .

[eroeru]

^^ Yeah, but should universities have a course where people of the Ku-Klux clan demonstrate what kind of attire is right for their purposes? (like introduce the intricacies of making a gallow or something). Or show how they discriminate a ****** (with a willing afro-american participant, who is a masochist).

To clarify: I do not believe sexually "liberated" people are on the same level as ku klux klan, but they're certainly in much the same level of controversy and (used to be) debated and argued as much about.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Yeah, they choose to go there to "learn":whistle:
As if...
Such a pethetic excuse. WHAT exactly did they learn that couldn't have been learned another way?

Yes people who are in psychology or some people might become sex educator should know about this information to teach people, who are unsure with their sexual being. It is in a educational enviroment to teach people about other sexual deviants. This is not the first racy interview, it will not be his last. If people were there to get their rocks off they are doing it wrong.

It is you who are on the high horse, thinking you are championing human freedoms and liberty.

I am not the champion of human freedoms, and liberty as you say. I support people's choice as long as it is not hurtful or hateful. This was neither to the people who attended it, I will defend my opinion on it no matter what. You act on your high horse calling this insane. It is something he has done for years and people 112 out of 600 students decided to go to it once they learned what it was and that is was opintional.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

By that logic, you are not allowed to try to stop me, sanction me or condemn me regardless of what I do, as long as it's the name of freedom and science.

Spreading racism? My choice of words, my freedom. Also, research into psychology.
Goading people into sucide? My choice of words, my freedom. Also, research into psychology.

Lines to draw? What lines?

The Freedom of Speech is a large blanket in the states which says you can say anything you want. That is why the KKK can be open, that is how they can say and show racial slurs of the president. Also you have the family calling out soldiers gay and should burn in hell. Hell I just turn on the news or go to my news aggregator site and I see it everywhere.

Also for your science history you should look back through the past centrury and see what scientists have done in the name of science. This was done it educate about once sexual profile and it was all vollunteered in a private area. No one was hurt or insulted or assimilated. What is wrong with that?

[android654]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

bmwcrazy wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

And if I enjoy racial slurs in public, it's my choice?

 

It is your choice. You're totally free to do so as long as you keep in mind that you're reponsible for your actions.

By that logic, you are not allowed to try to stop me, sanction me or condemn me regardless of what I do, as long as it's the name of freedom and science.

Spreading racism? My choice of words, my freedom. Also, research into psychology.
Goading people into sucide? My choice of words, my freedom. Also, research into psychology.

Lines to draw? What lines?

Do you not see your own hypocrisy? Yes, go ahead and do whatever you want, but you can't complain when others do what they want, like trying to stop you.

Also, not trying to be cute I'm being entirely sincere, you might want to see a professional therapist. This need you seem to have, to equate a sexual display to a racist hate group shows you have some serious problems with your association with sex. That's usually a sign of abuse or dysfunction in or more areas. It could seriously help change this bent outlook you have.

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
Also for your science history you should look back through the past centrury and see what scientists have done in the name of science.

That's a good point. The whole idea of organ transplants was made possible by Dr Vladimir Demikhov. He performed twisted and sadistic experiments on animals like transplanting the head of one dog on to another dog and trying to keep the two headed dog alive. Seems sick and pointless, but the experiments led to our common day knowledge of organ transplants, which is rather important.

Modifié par android654, 09 mai 2012 - 12:16 .

[Mylia Stenetch]

UnstableMongoose wrote...
This is all well and good, but the most reasonable statistics suggest that human trafficking for purposes of prostitution increases when prostitution is legalized in a region. Now, I'm not saying our system is perfect, but legalization actually tends to complicate things, or it least it has in such places as legalization has been enacted.

This is not to say that a system of legalization could never be found which protects against the abuses of human trafficking, but as of yet, such a thing does not exist.

To me it is just a begining. He is the one who brought up the issue. While this could cause problem cause mafias a big enough to corrupt gov't and police they will always take the path of least resistance. An example is look at all the strip clubs in Montreal they are all owned my Hell's Angels. So they are the safest place to be but there is so much cocaine that rolls though it there is no control.

There will always be loopholes they will find to increase productivity. Still with proper regulation (I said this again too!) with the legalization it can help curb it and make a safe enviroment for women of the night to work at. It all comes down to regulation and proper planning from the gov't end. I am not saying legalize and walk away calling it done. It is putting in regulations on safety, STIs, taxing, making sure people are paying into the system and keeping a place a heathy enviroment for all.

A fine example of this from where I live. Most drug gangs run pizza shops as a front, why is this? Cause they have the least regulation of all food establishments there is nothing to owning and running one. Also with the easy accessability to university students they make a killing. With proper regulation and standards this would not of happened and made it easier for law enforcement to get them.

[TheMufflon]

Is it just me, or does sides taken in this discussion correlate closely with avatar gender? While there are a few exceptions, it seems people with female avatars tend to take the socially liberal view, whereas most people on the side of social conservatism have male avatars.

It makes me wonder about the gender of the majestic sheep I've chosen to represent me.

[Elhanan]

TheMufflon wrote...

Is it just me, or does sides taken in this discussion correlate closely with avatar gender? While there are a few exceptions, it seems people with female avatars tend to take the socially liberal view, whereas most people on the side of social conservatism have male avatars.

It makes me wonder about the gender of the majestic sheep I've chosen to represent me.

Nope....

[Chromie]

TheMufflon wrote...

Is it just me, or does sides taken in this discussion correlate closely with avatar gender? While there are a few exceptions, it seems people with female avatars tend to take the socially liberal view, whereas most people on the side of social conservatism have male avatars.

It makes me wonder about the gender of the majestic sheep I've chosen to represent me.

But I have a room full of woman and men.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Skelter192 wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

Is it just me, or does sides taken in this discussion correlate closely with avatar gender? While there are a few exceptions, it seems people with female avatars tend to take the socially liberal view, whereas most people on the side of social conservatism have male avatars.

It makes me wonder about the gender of the majestic sheep I've chosen to represent me.

But I have a room full of woman and men.

You are a commie then!

[Eternal Phoenix]

Skelter192 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

He informed people and it wasn't mandatory. It was a the students choice to go. What the hell is so hard to understand about that? It wasn't public.

When I organize a Klu-Klux clan meeting, I also inform and it's nto public. Perfectly fine then?

It's a mockery, not a study.

The KKK can march,meet and peak in public or private. Have you not heard of Free Speech? I may not agree with their views but they within their rights to do.

They have no right for any racist views. They have the right to welcome my first to their face though as I send them back to the medieval ages.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Anarchic Democracy, you are allowed to do and say EVERYTHING you want, unless you don't 'physically' harm someone directly.
KKK as Lotion said, is an example to show why A.Democracy is one of the idiotic sort of governments.

Modifié par Imperial Sentinel Arian, 09 mai 2012 - 05:19 .

[Chromie]

Elton John is dead wrote...

They have no right for any racist views. They have the right to welcome my first to their face though as I send them back to the medieval ages.

They have as much right to their views as you do to yours. 

Mylia Stenetch wrote...
You are a commie then!

 

I appreciate a good orgy is all.

Modifié par Skelter192, 09 mai 2012 - 05:19 .