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Why do people think Major Coats is indoctrinated?

Débuté par Krozuhsky , mai 06 2012 02:56

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 04:44

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Because he is british and as we all know, british people are evil.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 04:45

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ReggarBlane wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

And also James Vega indoctrinated. Remember, he hears strange hum being.

But there is a strange hum. The SR-2 sounds like it's running off of propellers when Shepard's down in the shuttle bay.


Yes, there is a strange hum. It's a spaceship after all, not a library.
But hearing strange hum is one of symptoms of indoctrination.

Modifié par Gorkan86, 06 mai 2012 - 05:07 .

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 04:48

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xsdob wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

And also James Vega indoctrinated. Remember, he hears strange hum being.


The reapers are indoctrinated! the final sympthom of indoctrination is always making loud booming noises and low growls.


Almoust like my washing machine :D

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 04:50

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Gorkan86 wrote...

ReggarBlane wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

And also James Vega indoctrinated. Remember, he hears strange hum being.

But there is a strange hum. The SR-2 sounds like it's running off of propellers when Shepard's down in the shuttle bay.


Yes, there is a strange hum. It's a spaceship after all, not a library.
But hearing strange hum is one of symptoms of indoctrination.


And tinnitus.

Guys? I'm scared. I think I might be indoctrinated. I hear humming, too. It's coming from my air conditioner.

Should I blow up my AC in case it's actually a Reaper Indoctrination Device? :(

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 04:51

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...wut?

First time I hear of that lol.

#56
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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 04:59

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Indoctrination for everyone!

#57
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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:06

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Speaking as someone who has posted about this idea, I don't think anyone has claimed for certain that Coates is indoctrinated. That said, the idea is highly amusing and worthy of consideration solely on that merit.

After all, Coates is basically Loghain with a haircut.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:08

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KingZayd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

And also James Vega indoctrinated. Remember, he hears strange hum being.


The reapers are indoctrinated! the final sympthom of indoctrination is always making loud booming noises and low growls.


Actually that could be how the reapers are unknowingly "servants of the pattern"


Harbinger: No. NO! WE ARE IN DIRECT CONTROL!! NO ONE IS TELLING US WHAT TO DO!!!

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:11

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Coates and Catalyst are character of the "last ten minutes of a game".

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:13

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People started to claim he's indoctrinated?

What did I missed?

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:14

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It´s attacking IT get the hell out of my ship !!!

#62
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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:20

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Krozuhsky wrote...

 Sure, I believe in the Indoctrination Theory and all, but why do people think Coats is indoctrinated? He's pessimistic sure, but how could he even be indoctrinated. Even though he said he was trapped in Big Ben sniping down everything that moved, it still doesn't make sense, Reaper ground forces can't indoctrinate, so why? 


Judging by Virmire, rEAper indoctrination has a significant range. Their artifiacts can also project this signal. Coates was in the middle of a war zone, with rEApers all over the place. I'd be surprised if everyone in London hadn't been exposed to indoctrination to some extent. I don't think Coates is actually a rEAper spy, but it's possible.

Random question, how the hell did Anderson get to London anyway. With the rEApers in control of the air, I can't see them getting a ship or aircraft over to London.

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The Angry One
Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:21

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xsdob wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

And also James Vega indoctrinated. Remember, he hears strange hum being.


The reapers are indoctrinated! the final sympthom of indoctrination is always making loud booming noises and low growls.


Actually that could be how the reapers are unknowingly "servants of the pattern"


Harbinger: No. NO! WE ARE IN DIRECT CONTROL!! NO ONE IS TELLING US WHAT TO DO!!!


Posted Image

Harbinger, shine my shoes.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:23

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Mesina2 wrote...

People started to claim he's indoctrinated?

What did I missed?


Essentially, this...


http://www.reddit.co...t_breakthrough/

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:24

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I think the idea is that he's presented in the final moments of the game, yet has an oversized role in the finale. He's constantly suggesting attacks on the Destroyer won't work, he's on the flank that supposedly falters, and he's the one who prematurely and falsely calls out that the conduit team was decimated and for everyone to fall back. All his actions work against Shepard.

It's an interesting idea, a change of pace, that he's some kind of mole trying to negatively influence the allied forces.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:25

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The Angry One wrote...

xsdob wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

And also James Vega indoctrinated. Remember, he hears strange hum being.


The reapers are indoctrinated! the final sympthom of indoctrination is always making loud booming noises and low growls.


Actually that could be how the reapers are unknowingly "servants of the pattern"


Harbinger: No. NO! WE ARE IN DIRECT CONTROL!! NO ONE IS TELLING US WHAT TO DO!!!


Posted Image

Harbinger, shine my shoes.




Might also explain why Sovereign, who's supposedly very intelligent believes the reapers have been around since FOREVER. Also, believes the Citadel is HIS.

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Sal86
Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:27

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They made the British guy a bit stern. Shocker. :P

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:28

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KingZayd wrote...

Might also explain why Sovereign, who's supposedly very intelligent believes the reapers have been around since FOREVER. Also, believes the Citadel is HIS.


And independant, free of all weakness. Except of course, Starchild's logic

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:29

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I already assumed the control the citadel had over the reapers was similar to indoctrination. I just didn't know anyone else thought the same.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:31

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xsdob wrote...

I already assumed the control the citadel had over the reapers was similar to indoctrination. I just didn't know anyone else thought the same.


Cool, that's what i genuinely believe. Also, TIM having studied indoctrination and reaper communication believed he could control the reapers.

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The Angry One
Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:33

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Indoctrination Theory 3:
The Reapers weren't indoctrinating Shepard. The Catalyst was.
This even explains destroy - the Catalyst has grown bored with his toys.

Well why not? If he can indoctrinate the Reapers, he can indoctrinate anyone.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:33

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He is indoctrinated. Think about it. Admiral Anderson ordered everybody to charge the beam and don't stop. Yet, when Commander Shepard gets hit by the beam and then wakes up again, you can hear Major Coats and an unidentified female soldier of the Alliance retreating. They are practically disobeying orders that can decide the fate of the galaxy and trillions of lives! Who'd do that? Someone that's indoctrinated, that's who.

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 05:36

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The Angry One wrote...

Indoctrination Theory 3:
The Reapers weren't indoctrinating Shepard. The Catalyst was.
This even explains destroy - the Catalyst has grown bored with his toys.

Well why not? If he can indoctrinate the Reapers, he can indoctrinate anyone.


entirely possible. The fact that you're here proves that my old solution won't work anymore= Hey! you're better at breaking things than those toys I had before. Shepard... SMASH! (okay, shoot)

brings the child image a new meaning too. which is the old meaning. 

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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 06:07

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Vespervin wrote...

He is indoctrinated. Think about it. Admiral Anderson ordered everybody to charge the beam and don't stop. Yet, when Commander Shepard gets hit by the beam and then wakes up again, you can hear Major Coats and an unidentified female soldier of the Alliance retreating. They are practically disobeying orders that can decide the fate of the galaxy and trillions of lives! Who'd do that? Someone that's indoctrinated, that's who.

Jesus. So many straws grasped. 

#75
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Posté 06 mai 2012 - 06:13

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If the IT was unintended, the series ends without fulfilling the awesome potencial of the the well established notion of Reaper indoctrination. Why don't use it as a great twist, at any point, minor or major. And we all know Bioware loves twists. Why didn't any important ally ever gave in to indoctrination at any degree. All we got is some incident involving Rana Thanoptis who had very little screen time and that was in an email. How original.

And no, Cerberus obviously hasn't been entirely our ally since ME1, no indoctrination was really required in their part.
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