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Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

*sigh* why ppl are so lazy?

if you are experienced and you still get kicked...why dont you just promote the characters?

i was getting kicked a lot back when i decided to stay N7 120....but then i took an arrow on the knee...ooops wrong words...i meant...but then i decided to promote my characters until i knew i was never going to be kicked....and thats it...problem solved...

i dont kick ppl...but lazy ppl that doesnt want to promote are kinda lame...


I do not play a bunch, so I really do not want to promote my infils or vanguards (only classes I play). I might promote my soldier, I don't know, they are close to 20 I think. It is BORING leveling a character you just leveled, I dont know, I do not know how you high level N7 peeps did it, I just can not waste my time doing that. Oh well, to each their own.

I only play with my buddies, so I do not have to worry about people who assume N7 has anything to do with skill, if anything, the only thing it can tell you is how much free time one has.

Oh, and we do just fine on gold.

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That's why I got my n7 up to around 400. Don't plan to get it higher, unless all the peope will run with 1000+. Then I will promote.

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MarchWaltz wrote...

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

*sigh* why ppl are so lazy?

if you are experienced and you still get kicked...why dont you just promote the characters?

i was getting kicked a lot back when i decided to stay N7 120....but then i took an arrow on the knee...ooops wrong words...i meant...but then i decided to promote my characters until i knew i was never going to be kicked....and thats it...problem solved...

i dont kick ppl...but lazy ppl that doesnt want to promote are kinda lame...


I do not play a bunch, so I really do not want to promote my infils or vanguards (only classes I play). I might promote my soldier, I don't know, they are close to 20 I think. It is BORING leveling a character you just leveled, I dont know, I do not know how you high level N7 peeps did it, I just can not waste my time doing that. Oh well, to each their own.

I only play with my buddies, so I do not have to worry about people who assume N7 has anything to do with skill, if anything, the only thing it can tell you is how much free time one has.

Oh, and we do just fine on gold.


Here's the thing...

ONE Bronze game should take you somewhere around lvl 7-8 maybe lvl 9 if you do random/random (and why wouldn't you?).

ONE Silver game following that ONE Bronze game should take you to lvl 12-13. Then depending on if you have friends to play with or not you can hop to Gold from there. Depending on player skill of course.

If not then play ONE MORE Silver game.

That's 2-3 games to get a character to Gold level. So not promoting because you don't play a lot is a silly argument.

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spychi wrote...

I have almost all weapons on 10, I don't give a damn about my team actually... mainly because I am always first.


Wow....I can't wait to play with you!  Sounds like a blast   <_<

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Okay, so I've seen a lot of posts on how my guns and characters aren't that many or fully upgraded. I've been following the advice of trying to get all of the common items out of the way, but recently all I've got are the premium spectre packs because of the limited time that they are available. I'll go back to recruit when the premium deal is done.
Judging how a person can play gold based on how high the Widow is upgraded seems a little harsh. :\\ Granted I do like to use it, but it's not the only gun people use.
I'm not that bad at gold, I've successfully completed about 24/25 gold games out of about 30(don't quote me on this). And as for actually having to be revived, maybe two times per game.
I only play for maybe one-and-a-half to two hours at most recently due to having to study for AP and final exams, and I only started playing mp about 2 weeks ago because I was severely pissed off with the sp ending. So pardon me if I don't have a lot of good guns or characters yet or if I'm just slow.
I just wanted an understanding of why people choose to kick me right as I join a game. I'd like to play gold, but I'll stick with silver if need be.

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Soaringeagle78 wrote...

Okay, so I've seen a lot of posts on how my guns and characters aren't that many or fully upgraded. I've been following the advice of trying to get all of the common items out of the way, but recently all I've got are the premium spectre packs because of the limited time that they are available. I'll go back to recruit when the premium deal is done.
Judging how a person can play gold based on how high the Widow is upgraded seems a little harsh. : Granted I do like to use it, but it's not the only gun people use.
I'm not that bad at gold, I've successfully completed about 24/25 gold games out of about 30(don't quote me on this). And as for actually having to be revived, maybe two times per game.
I only play for maybe one-and-a-half to two hours at most recently due to having to study for AP and final exams, and I only started playing mp about 2 weeks ago because I was severely pissed off with the sp ending. So pardon me if I don't have a lot of good guns or characters yet or if I'm just slow.
I just wanted an understanding of why people choose to kick me right as I join a game. I'd like to play gold, but I'll stick with silver if need be.


To be fair, if you have the equipment and are spec'd properly you can keep up damage wise with a lvl 1 window vs say a lvl 8... It takes  more effort and precise shots but can be done.   

I get kicked out of any ranked game from the start for no reason usually, i just take it as they are too lazy to set to private an are trying to get a friend in.. Your woes may simply boil down to that fact.  Who knows.. Weapons help, skill is a plus.  

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The amount of bad players in this thread is disgusting.

Judging someone based on their manifest is laughable.
Hell, you could pack a level 1 predator and still outperform 90% of the people in gold pugs.

This isn't World Of Warcraft where good equipment or high levels are necessary.
This is like playing single player.

The only difference is that in single player your squad mates are smarter.
They don't constantly mess up the spawn points.

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VVereVVulf wrote...

The amount of bad players in this thread is disgusting.

Judging someone based on their manifest is laughable.
Hell, you could pack a level 1 predator and still outperform 90% of the people in gold pugs.

This isn't World Of Warcraft where good equipment or high levels are necessary.
This is like playing single player.

The only difference is that in single player your squad mates are smarter.
They don't constantly mess up the spawn points.


The liklihood is that if someone has a carnifex X they've been playing longer than someone with a predator I.

Good equipment definately makes a difference but it's not the end-all-be-all.

You're naive if you think otherwise.  Most people suck but if you take an average player and give him a Widow I and then you take an average player and give him a Widow X, who's going to be more useful? 

Almost every time it's going to be the guy with the Widow X. 

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If you hadn't read my post, then you need to read it. I actually played with you earlier today, in a FBW/G/G game. I actually just read your thread and then I recognized the username, when I joined that lobby. Nobody voted to kick you.

You went AFK in rounds 7-9 and then finally moved your ass in round 10 and 11. I left as soon as that game was done, but if I had stayed, I would have voted to kick you. Me and the other two random people in the lobby (me especially, since I scored the highest 20K above everyone else) essentially carried your ass to 70K+ credits. I don't even know if you scored 20K. You contributed nothing. This is why people kick you. Everytime I looked at the killfeed and you happened to kill something, it was a rocket drone or a geth turret.

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VVereVVulf wrote...

The amount of bad players in this thread is disgusting.

Judging someone based on their manifest is laughable.
Hell, you could pack a level 1 predator and still outperform 90% of the people in gold pugs.

This isn't World Of Warcraft where good equipment or high levels are necessary.
This is like playing single player.

The only difference is that in single player your squad mates are smarter.
They don't constantly mess up the spawn points.


I don't know what sort of pubs you've played in...

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Also, about my post about using the glitch, I did use it several times last week, but then I saw the post from the moderator about cheating and how they're kicking people off mp for using the glitch, so I don't use it anymore. As for the game I just played, I had to get off for a while, but I came back once I was done with some chores, but it was already wave 10 after I left from wave 6. Sorry about that. :(

EDIT: As for the kills that I was getting, I would try to take out rocket troopers, pyros, or the regular geth because I knew I couldn't be very effective against the primes. I only began shooting at them when they got close, which wasn't very often. And I left on wave 6 or 7 because I had to do some chores around my house. When I finished, I came back on Wave 10. I put myself behind the cover down near the corner before I left so that I wouldn't go down repeatedly(I don't know if I actually did that much, but if I did, sorry about that too).:unsure:

Modifié par Soaringeagle78, 06 mai 2012 - 07:00 .


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Soaringeagle78 wrote...

Also, about my post about using the glitch, I did use it several times last week, but then I saw the post from the moderator about cheating and how they're kicking people off mp for using the glitch, so I don't use it anymore. As for the game I just played, I had to get off for a while, but I came back once I was done with some chores, but it was already wave 10 after I left from wave 6. Sorry about that. :(


You said you have a mic. Use it to inform your teammates. It's that easy.

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Lagrad Gribble wrote...

Unfortunately, it might not be JUST your N7 level that's getting you kicked. If I saw someone with low leveled weapons AND a low N7 level, just just tells me they haven't been playing very long and probably shouldn't be in Gold yet.


Yup.

OP, this may be mean, but maybe you just don't belong in gold.

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fez99 wrote...

If you hadn't read my post, then you need to read it. I actually played with you earlier today, in a FBW/G/G game. I actually just read your thread and then I recognized the username, when I joined that lobby. Nobody voted to kick you.

You went AFK in rounds 7-9 and then finally moved your ass in round 10 and 11. I left as soon as that game was done, but if I had stayed, I would have voted to kick you. Me and the other two random people in the lobby (me especially, since I scored the highest 20K above everyone else) essentially carried your ass to 70K+ credits. I don't even know if you scored 20K. You contributed nothing. This is why people kick you. Everytime I looked at the killfeed and you happened to kill something, it was a rocket drone or a geth turret.


LULZ burrrrn

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Soaringeagle78 wrote...
 As for the game I just played, I had to get off for a while, but I came back once I was done with some chores, but it was already wave 10 after I left from wave 6. Sorry about that. :(


For that, i kick immidiately tbh. Unless its a phonecall or something equally important either do not join the game if u know ull have to go afk or IT CAN WAIT another 10 minutes. Also it's  semi acceptable if the person asks via voicechat if team minds him/her going afk. 
Also i do kick people from gold lobby with stupid builds (vanguard with widow and a shotgun etc) or with character level below 10. Why ? Because you wont have abilities and if your guns are low level too all you do is let the side down and rest of the team has to carry you. If your N7 is like 50 and you have something like mantis 5 or mattock or something not-terribad and you character level is lvl 12+, i see no reason to kick. 
I dont mind carrying others to an extent, but there is a limit. Im fairly okay but i cant be bothered to solo the whole damn thing just because someone is too lazy to play 2 silver games to get above level 10 on his/her char.

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n7 level = means **** , being good or bad it just means you've played countless hours and being good or bad you still getting xp and leveling up.

IF and i mean IF n7 promoting added something it would make sense, but all it does is reset all your work on the character and add +10 to your lv wich means squat.

its time for people stoping acting like they own the game and being ****s.

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I hardly ever kick... but when I do, it's usually sub-20 characters, unless their N7 tells me they might be experienced enough to make up for the levels missing.

Insta kicks are low N7, low level, low guns, no mic. (Even then, depending on the strength of the other 2 in the room, they may get a pass, but also a /sigh.)

These fellows, when they have their mic on, sometimes say, when they go down, 'I have no medigel! Haaaalp!'

I have no problem with that setup on Silver or Bronze.

But why on gold?

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I'm all for not judging a book by it's cover, but the fact of the matter is if we don't do that then we get stuck with an awful player for 25+ minutes more often than not (when a good group can run FBW in 18 minutes, dying after the objective in round 10). As much as possible I try to play with friends for this reason, but often we only have a group of 2 or 3. On the plus side, this makes kicking random players a lot easier.

I don't kick based on N7 alone, but it is definitely a factor, and will make me consider your class/loadout more carefully when deciding whether to play with you.

In particular, with a low N7 you must show me that you are trying to play one of the best possible characters--if you want to play something random I'll expect you to have extremely good guns (which likely comes with a high N7 rank, but if you've got close to level X rares I'll probably give you a chance).

With your manifest, I'd probably give you a chance as a Geth Eng, Sal Eng, or Asari Justicar using your Carnifex 3. If you unlocked Sal Inf I'd probably give you a chance with your Widow 1. I might not kick you with other infiltrators (particularly the Quarian, although Sabotage is often more annoying than helpful), but it would depend on my mood. If you played basically any other loadout (such as Widow 1 on a Geth Eng) I would kick you without hesitation. Similarly, if you are using Ultralight Materials on an SMG other than the Geth SMG, I will also kick you.

That said, even if I played one game with you, you'd need to prove to me you know what you're doing to not get kicked before the next game:

You need to be a team player and generally not just run around like Rambo.

You need to let the Infiltrator handle the decode objectives by himself, and not draw extra attention to him; on the other hand, if you are the only infiltrator you need to do the decode objectives yourself in a timely fashion.

You need to stand in the circle on hack objectives.

You need to use consumables appropriately--missiles in objective rounds at crucial times or if the party is near death, as opposed to just missiling a random prime for the hell of it.

If everybody else is suiciding after the objective in wave 10 to get to the next round faster, you need to do the same--regardless of whether you need the experience points or not.

You need to not die a million times far away from everyone else--when this happens, it's often easier just play with 3 people.

Assuming your character's main role is damage dealing (which is the case for most good characters besides a Salarian Engineer), your score has to be at least on par with the person in 3rd place.

You say you've succeeded on about 24/25 out of 30 fbw runs. This is actually not a very good completion rate. Good parties complete fbw essentially 100% of the time, and if I felt there was a chance of failure at any point during the match I'd absolutely kick the worst players on the team.

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The reason I mentioned N7 rank to begin with was because people would kick me within literally 4 seconds of joining a gold match. If getting kicked due to the manifest is the reason, then I'll play silver.
Gold = more credits in less time = faster and more frequent purchases of packs = better upgrades for characters, weapons, etc.

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It's not your manifest -- it's a combination of your loadout and N7 level. This takes about 4 seconds to check. Nobody is checking your whole manifest before kicking, just your current class/weapon combo.

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Manifest is a real help in these 'y u kick me' threads indeed :D

At least it has some practical use

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@ObobME I'll definitely follow your advice. I try to follow most of those, but I guess I just need to work on setting myself up better. When I said 24/25 out of 30, I meant just on every map in general, not just fbw. I also have a lack of medigel/rockets right now because I've only bought a few premium spectre packs recently, so after playing a few rounds I quickly ran out. I think you may have had the most helpful advise so far... :)

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Most hilarious thread in a while A+ would lol again

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Funny that people say they only play for credits but then want a high N7 to play with them.

LOL At the hypocrisy

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I've never understood the mentality behind kicking people in your position. If it's any consolation, you'd be welcome to play Gold with me.

The best advice I can give is to play Silver for a while. Once you're around N7 150 you should be good, and try and use Rare and Ultra-Rare weapons when possible to impress people. Then, change to your favorites before the match begins.