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[Mandelore]

I do not mean this in a demeaning way, but I'd like to see a source for the "No gameplay" claim.

[Khran1505]

I'm a little confused here. What part of "recording dialogue" fills you with hope and optimism?

I get that people are glad there'll actually be some dialogue, better than what we did get originally, but what's so good about that in comparison to say some actual intel on what exactly is going on that makes sense in the Mass Effect universe?

[Naughty Bear]

Tazzmission wrote...

XyleJKH wrote...

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dude thats not funny and reported for harsh comment

You should know by now that reporting rarely works.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 07 mai 2012 - 10:26 .

[Tazzmission]

Khran1505 wrote...

I'm a little confused here. What part of "recording dialogue" fills you with hope and optimism?

I get that people are glad there'll actually be some dialogue, better than what we did get originally, but what's so good about that in comparison to say some actual intel on what exactly is going on that makes sense in the Mass Effect universe?

whats really interesting he didnt specify who was recording

i wonder maybe they may re add the catalyst lines they cut because if you remember hudson stated nobody needs to know everything

[FirstKillshotN7]

Khran1505 wrote...

I'm a little confused here. What part of "recording dialogue" fills you with hope and optimism?

I get that people are glad there'll actually be some dialogue, better than what we did get originally, but what's so good about that in comparison to say some actual intel on what exactly is going on that makes sense in the Mass Effect universe?

It just does, OK?! I need all the hope I can get and lots of new dialogue makes me happy. :|

[MarchWaltz]

I see.

I think I know what the EC will be.

It will be like the end of fallout, script being narrated by one of the chars, IE EDI telling us how the geth are doing, garrus telling us how the turians are doing...etc. Good enough, I suppose.

[Sith Reaper]

Mandelore wrote...

I do not mean this in a demeaning way, but I'd like to see a source for the "No gameplay" claim.

As would I. I see this a lot, actually - was it from a tweet?

[Naughty Bear]

MarchWaltz wrote...

I see.

I think I know what the EC will be.

It will be like the end of fallout, script being narrated by one of the chars, IE EDI telling us how the geth are doing, garrus telling us how the turians are doing...etc. Good enough, I suppose.

Not what i had in mind but, like you said, good enough.

[Atakuma]

Hope? This is the BSN, did you not see the sign when you came in?

"Abandon hope all ye who enter here"

[Bluko]

Well that's better then "Budget ran out... but don't worry  you guys will love the Email messages!"

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Until I see evidence of a total ending overhaul, I shall wait with baited breath.

Yeah basically this. I do want to be hopeful the Extended Cut will actually make things better. But I really can't entertain such optimism anymore. Granted I don't think the ending can be made any worse, but I'm somewhat fearful they may just make it less bad and not actually fix what's fundamentally wrong with it. I hate the label Extended Cut as that makes it sound like it's movie or something. I don't think a few extra scenes are going to help. They basically have to drastically alter the endings or it simply is for naught.

You know anything that would reassure me there is hope for Indoctrination Theory. I've put a lot of pieces together so that it seems it must be true. But without absolute confirmation I can't be certain if I'm not simply being desperately deranged. To which a name like "Clarity" would have been a little more telling. I'm hoping they're just calling it EC to placate people who'd likely flip out over the issue of "DLC Endings". Still a bad name though as it implies it really isn't important. Which is why many went back into despair upon hearing the announcement.

[shurikenmanta]

XyleJKH wrote...

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Wow. I've had relatives die from cancer and I wouldn't wish that on anybody, let alone somebody who made a game I didn't like the ending of.

You should be ashamed. Get help.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 07 mai 2012 - 10:27 .

[shepskisaac]

FlamingBoy wrote...

its not like this man has lied before

Sure and he convinced Tricia Helfer and Raphael Sbarge to help him spread more lies to troll fans that there will be new VAs. Totally. Really.

[Annihilator27]

I hope the Catalyst explain why Synthetics have DNA and why couldnt they just wipe them out instead,

[Tazzmission]

annihilator27 wrote...

I hope the Catalyst explain why Synthetics have DNA and why couldnt they just wipe them out instead,

im hoping more then just that

i want more orgins of the reapers and a extended explination why casper has such a hard on for synthetics being destructive

[Iakus]

 Hope lies entirely in what's actually being recorded.

[Annihilator27]

Tazzmission wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

I hope the Catalyst explain why Synthetics have DNA and why couldnt they just wipe them out instead,

im hoping more then just that

i want more orgins of the reapers and a extended explination why casper has such a hard on for synthetics being destructive

Because Machines and Organics can NEVER coexist.

[Tazzmission]

annihilator27 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

I hope the Catalyst explain why Synthetics have DNA and why couldnt they just wipe them out instead,

im hoping more then just that

i want more orgins of the reapers and a extended explination why casper has such a hard on for synthetics being destructive

Because Machines and Organics can NEVER coexist.

i want that final hours dio back in for catalyst cause hudson stated something like people dont need to know all the answers

im curious to see what those answers are because is casper this being of light type god? or is he a ploy in shepards mind do to indoctrination theory?

[TJX2045]

I think a lot of people who believe the Catalyst is right about not being able to coexist are too quick to trust the "creator" of machines who are 50k years old who would suddenly not lie to save his own skin.

It's possible he's right.  It's a very slim chance that he is though.  If you base it on things that happened in the first 2 games and the themes, I wouldn't trust him to not indoctrinate everyone in Control or Synthesis.

In regards to the tweet, I have hope, but depending on how the EC turns out, if it is unsatisfying, of course, *in a catalyst voice* "the hope won't last."

Right now it's easier to have really low expectations so when it releases then my mind = blown and then I get back to regular playthroughs of this awesome game.  Right now I can't take much more depressing emo lacking closure ending.  LOL.

Modifié par TJX2045, 07 mai 2012 - 01:30 .

[KLF_uh_HUH_uh_HUH]

Mandelore wrote...

I do not mean this in a demeaning way, but I'd like to see a source for the "No gameplay" claim.

The Bioware blog (http://blog.bioware....extended-cut/) seems to imply no additional gameplay without actually saying so:


"What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

• BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3. "

"Cinematics and epilogue scenes" doesn't really suggest gameplay as such, unless it be some Paragon/Renegade dialogue branching.

Gamerant, on a quick Google, claims no new gameplay: http://gamerant.com/...es-benk-142185/  and claims it spoke with a BW spokesperson.

[Shatterhand1701]

Big deal.

Whatever dialogue is being recorded, whatever work's being done trust me; hundreds of ME fans here wait anxiously to rip it to shreds and claim that Bioware has once again screwed them over...you know, like any other day here at the BSN.

[dmonorato]

They can do VO till the reapers come to earth, ain't gonna change the ending. Clarification of crap is really, really clear crap.

[Genshie]

MarchWaltz wrote...

I see.

I think I know what the EC will be.

It will be like the end of fallout, script being narrated by one of the chars, IE EDI telling us how the geth are doing, garrus telling us how the turians are doing...etc. Good enough, I suppose.

 If this helps at all the voice actor of Kaiden is currently recording new lines so I am assuming Ashley will be getting dialogue as well. I imagine that multiple characters will be explaining things.

[shurikenmanta]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

Big deal.

Whatever dialogue is being recorded, whatever work's being done trust me; hundreds of ME fans here wait anxiously to rip it to shreds and claim that Bioware has once again screwed them over...you know, like any other day here at the BSN.

Yep.

Unless it like delivers free steaks and comes with a real live Asari waifu to deliver oral pleasure, people will hate it.

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 07 mai 2012 - 02:07 .

[KLF_uh_HUH_uh_HUH]

Genshie wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

I see.

I think I know what the EC will be.

It will be like the end of fallout, script being narrated by one of the chars, IE EDI telling us how the geth are doing, garrus telling us how the turians are doing...etc. Good enough, I suppose.

 If this helps at all the voice actor of Kaiden is currently recording new lines so I am assuming Ashley will be getting dialogue as well. I imagine that multiple characters will be explaining things.

Garrus doing voiceovers would be worth the download alone.  The man's VA is the audio equivalent of the Old Spice guy.

[SalsaDMA]

AlanC9 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...
I personally think having assets fight alongside you proper, ala what was done in DA:O, would have gone a long way...

YMMV, ofc.

I don't think that would work too well in actual combat -- would we actually see much of them? DA:O had a high camera view where you could see the whole battlefield.

Cutscenes are another matter.

Depends on how you played the game.

Depending on my mood I sometimes played DA:O as a 3rd person game.

Truth be told, given how similar DA:O and ME3 is from a topdown view (both basicly about gathering assets to aid you against the big bad meanie battle that is threatening to drown the known world in a tide of violence) I was surprised they took so few cues from how DA:O made it work.

DA:O's way of handling it was close to perfect in my opinion. The possible 'choice' up to the fight of how to ultimately deal with the threat. The multi-tiered fights through Denerim where you got to choose ( <- choice is an important aspect ) not only how to utilize your assets, but also which assets (and the assets you had available where goverened by choices you had done throughout the entire game, really making it a 'culmination'). The actual choice playing its effect. The scenes after showing you what happened, and even giving you some minor control in the courtroom in some cases, and the epilogoue telling you what happened to the people you had encountered.

Compare this with ME3 where you get... a random generic mission, really. A confusing 'playout' of the choice (that doesn't really feel like a choice), and an epilogue that literally tells nothing...

Holding those 2 endings up against each other, one is well done (DA:O), and one makes you wonder what the hell they where thinking.

At least to me it does.

It strikes me as more than odd that they didn't look at how well DA:O's ending worked and figured they could use that as a frame of reference of how to do things, instead of... that thing... which they made instead as an ending...