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I know one passed some time ago,  I can't speak for the others.

Who said the artist had to be alive for you to enjoy their music? Bach beats the hell out of Radiohead. Lol.


No one. But bieng alive doesn't make 80's metal sound any better.

I kid, I kid. There are few songs in there that I use for some things.

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[quote]EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Your library must be tiny.
I can't think of a single artist besides maybe Rebecca Black who doesn't have at least one sad or "bad" song.
ANd with her I'm using the term artist very loosely.  LOL :o I don't even have to listen to what you do to already be bored of it.

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I find it most amusing--ah, never mind.


I believe I gave the wrong impression. I don't just listen to "happy songs." I don't dislike "sad" songs. I dislike songs that are about hurting people.

One of my favorite bands is Breaking Benjamin, who has tons and tons of sad songs. Those are some songs I listen to. Another similar one is Red, with a bit of a brighter outlook in life.

Again, I think I said it incorrectly: I dislike songs that are about hurtning other people, about causing them pain. That kind of stuff.
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That's just it though, simply not liking something isn't a vialble excuse to write it off as a genre of music entirely. There are a lot of great songs with powerful messages that involve violence towards others or violence towards themselves. It's healthy to explore your mind and emotions, and that includes emotions we don't find pleasant.

Here's a good example of someone harming themselves that has a powerful message behind it

Paloma Faith - Do You Want The Truth Or Something Beautiful[/quote]

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Your library must be tiny.
I can't think of a single artist besides maybe Rebecca Black who doesn't have at least one sad or "bad" song.
ANd with her I'm using the term artist very loosely.  LOL :o I don't even have to listen to what you do to already be bored of it.


I find it most amusing--ah, never mind.


I believe I gave the wrong impression. I don't just listen to "happy songs." I don't dislike "sad" songs. I dislike songs that are about hurting people.

One of my favorite bands is Breaking Benjamin, who has tons and tons of sad songs. Those are some songs I listen to. Another similar one is Red, with a bit of a brighter outlook in life.

Again, I think I said it incorrectly: I dislike songs that are about hurtning other people, about causing them pain. That kind of stuff.


Ok that makes sesne.
So whats wrong with the Radiohead song then?  Because thats not about hurting anyone unless I'm missing something.
As for me if its catchy then its already won me over :D
I like all types.  I have angry songs (most of The Used for example)  Breaking Benjamin is one of my favorites too.  I have happy stuff (most of Weezer)  Going back to Eminem one of my favorites is probably his most messed up song ever.  My sister and her fiance love Eminem and can't stand that song.  I can't listen to any of it when my parents are around but if the song is really about that than I take it with a grain of salt and move on.  Like I said just because it has a hurtful message to it doesn't mean I want to do it.  I never once turned on GTA and thought gosh I wish I could go out and kill hookers in real life.

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I'm a fan of Die Hard and Mortal Kombat and GTA... According to Jack Thompson I've already shot up 12 schools :o
Yet in reality I can't even bring myself to raise my fists at my dogs when they really ****** me off.

Lol Jack Thompson. I kind of miss reading about his anti-video game crusading.

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android654 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

I know one passed some time ago,  I can't speak for the others.

Who said the artist had to be alive for you to enjoy their music? Bach beats the hell out of Radiohead. Lol.


No one. But bieng alive doesn't make 80's metal sound any better.

I kid, I kid. There are few songs in there that I use for some things.


Lol. You should try the freaky circus. 
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Ok that makes sesne.
So whats wrong with the Radiohead song then?  Because thats not about hurting anyone unless I'm missing something.
As for me if its catchy then its already won me over :D
I like all types.  I have angry songs (most of The Used for example)  Breaking Benjamin is one of my favorites too.  I have happy stuff (most of Weezer)  Going back to Eminem one of my favorites is probably his most messed up song ever.  My sister and her fiance love Eminem and can't stand that song.  I can't listen to any of it when my parents are around but if the song is really about that than I take it with a grain of salt and move on.  Like I said just because it has a hurtful message to it doesn't mean I want to do it.  I never once turned on GTA and thought gosh I wish I could go out and kill hookers in real life.


I don't know, I didn't listen to it.


Most music in general doesn't interest me. I guess I'm a half hipster.

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As for me if its catchy then its already won me over :D
I like all types.  I have angry songs (most of The Used for example)  Breaking Benjamin is one of my favorites too.  I have happy stuff (most of Weezer)  Going back to Eminem one of my favorites is probably his most messed up song ever.  My sister and her fiance love Eminem and can't stand that song.  I can't listen to any of it when my parents are around but if the song is really about that than I take it with a grain of salt and move on.  Like I said just because it has a hurtful message to it doesn't mean I want to do it.  I never once turned on GTA and thought gosh I wish I could go out and kill hookers in real life.


That reminds me of the arguement against legalizing drugs. I doubt most people would go a buy heoroin at the corner store because it's not legal, no matter how many times they've seen it in a movie.

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That's just it though, simply not liking something isn't a vialble excuse to write it off as a genre of music entirely. There are a lot of great songs with powerful messages that involve violence towards others or violence towards themselves. It's healthy to explore your mind and emotions, and that includes emotions we don't find pleasant.

Here's a good example of someone harming themselves that has a powerful message behind it

Paloma Faith - Do You Want The Truth Or Something Beautiful[/quote]

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What speak ye of? Rap? There are other reasons why I don't like rap, not just that.

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Elton John is dead wrote...

android654 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

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Elton John is dead wrote...

Today's music summed up in one song:

 

Y U PICK BAD RAP "ARTIST"?!:pinched:


Should I have picked Labrinth (their earthquake single gives me a headace) or Professor Green (I don't care if your mother wasn't there for you. STFU) instead? They suck just as much. 

I had no clue who either of those people were until just now, apparently they suck though. I try to listen to good rap artists.


Me thinks he's uneducated about Rap music. No one can say they respect music and listen to Asheru, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Wu-Tang, or Nas and say the entire genre is bad.


Give me one good rap song then. Rap consists of a man simply talking fast and often swearing. I've listened to all the so-called top rap artists over here in the UK and America and there's nothing beautiful about their songs (as music is meant to be), there's nothing thought provoking about them, there's no melody to them and there's certainly no talent in them.


You're right. But before expressing such claims, remember that even if you're 80% correct, your opponents will slap you in the face with the remaining 20%, saying "lol your generalization is incorrect lol". <_<

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Volus Warlord wrote...

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Volus Warlord wrote...

I know one passed some time ago,  I can't speak for the others.

Who said the artist had to be alive for you to enjoy their music? Bach beats the hell out of Radiohead. Lol.


No one. But bieng alive doesn't make 80's metal sound any better.

I kid, I kid. There are few songs in there that I use for some things.


Lol. You should try the freaky circus. 
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LOL! Isn't that Jack Black?

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Give me one good rap song then. Rap consists of a man simply talking fast and often swearing. I've listened to all the so-called top rap artists over here in the UK and America and there's nothing beautiful about their songs (as music is meant to be), there's nothing thought provoking about them, there's no melody to them and there's certainly no talent in them.


You're right. 

He is?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Ok that makes sesne.
So whats wrong with the Radiohead song then?  Because thats not about hurting anyone unless I'm missing something.
As for me if its catchy then its already won me over :D
I like all types.  I have angry songs (most of The Used for example)  Breaking Benjamin is one of my favorites too.  I have happy stuff (most of Weezer)  Going back to Eminem one of my favorites is probably his most messed up song ever.  My sister and her fiance love Eminem and can't stand that song.  I can't listen to any of it when my parents are around but if the song is really about that than I take it with a grain of salt and move on.  Like I said just because it has a hurtful message to it doesn't mean I want to do it.  I never once turned on GTA and thought gosh I wish I could go out and kill hookers in real life.


I don't know, I didn't listen to it.


Most music in general doesn't interest me. I guess I'm a half hipster.


LMAO I'm reminded of Hideo Kojima admiting he doesn't like Video Games.  Goes on to creat the popular Metal Gear series.  Turns the 4th one into a long ass movie with gameplay sections in between.  A musician who doesn't care much for most music.
Well have fun with that.

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LOL! Isn't that Jack Black?


Jack black isn't the singer, he was just the face model and voice for Brutal Legend's protaganist. And what's wrong with Jack Black?

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[quote]EternalAmbiguity wrote...

[quote]android654 wrote...

That's just it though, simply not liking something isn't a vialble excuse to write it off as a genre of music entirely. There are a lot of great songs with powerful messages that involve violence towards others or violence towards themselves. It's healthy to explore your mind and emotions, and that includes emotions we don't find pleasant.

Here's a good example of someone harming themselves that has a powerful message behind it

Paloma Faith - Do You Want The Truth Or Something Beautiful[/quote]

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What speak ye of? Rap? There are other reasons why I don't like rap, not just that.

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For the love of god, click the link. It's Blue-Eyed soul not rap. Rap doesn't own the rights to violence in music. People were violent in their songs long before people conolozed the west. Violence is a human emotion and a human experience. It has a place in our art.

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LMAO I'm reminded of Hideo Kojima admiting he doesn't like Video Games.  Goes on to creat the popular Metal Gear series.  Turns the 4th one into a long ass movie with gameplay sections in between.  A musician who doesn't care much for most music.
Well have fun with that.


Thanks. I sure will.

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LOL! Isn't that Jack Black?


Jack black isn't the singer, he was just the face model and voice for Brutal Legend's protaganist. And what's wrong with Jack Black?


Nothing, I just thought he did that segment. Which tickled me since it's a far cry from Tenacious D.

I'm not the biggest Metal fan, but I do use it when I'm power lifting. Makes you feel like Thor... in your own head that is,

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LMAO I'm reminded of Hideo Kojima admiting he doesn't like Video Games.  Goes on to creat the popular Metal Gear series.  Turns the 4th one into a long ass movie with gameplay sections in between.  A musician who doesn't care much for most music.
Well have fun with that.


Thanks. I sure will.


Here's another for you, although it's more aggravation than self-pity. 

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LOL! Isn't that Jack Black?


Jack black isn't the singer, he was just the face model and voice for Brutal Legend's protaganist. And what's wrong with Jack Black?


Brutal Legend is epic.  Gameplay could be better but I'm just hating myself for not finishing it by now. But damn every time I play it I just get so pumped up.  All that heavy metal influence in even the landscape.  I'm not the biggest Heavy Metal fan but that game makes me want to be.
And my mom says I look like Jack Black when I let my beard grow. :lol:

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Elton John is dead wrote...


Give me one good rap song then. Rap consists of a man simply talking fast and often swearing. I've listened to all the so-called top rap artists over here in the UK and America and there's nothing beautiful about their songs (as music is meant to be), there's nothing thought provoking about them, there's no melody to them and there's certainly no talent in them.


You're right. But before expressing such claims, remember that even if you're 80% correct, your opponents will slap you in the face with the remaining 20%, saying "lol your generalization is incorrect lol". <_<

To be fair, 80% of every genre is crap.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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LMAO I'm reminded of Hideo Kojima admiting he doesn't like Video Games.  Goes on to creat the popular Metal Gear series.  Turns the 4th one into a long ass movie with gameplay sections in between.  A musician who doesn't care much for most music.
Well have fun with that.


Thanks. I sure will.


Here's another for you, although it's more aggravation than self-pity. 


Theory of A Dead Man!?

I't been a while since I heard these guys. Makes me feel like I'm a goth thirteen year old all over again.

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Brutal Legend made me happy, but most of all my sister who loves Metal was really happy with it.

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Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...


Give me one good rap song then. Rap consists of a man simply talking fast and often swearing. I've listened to all the so-called top rap artists over here in the UK and America and there's nothing beautiful about their songs (as music is meant to be), there's nothing thought provoking about them, there's no melody to them and there's certainly no talent in them.


You're right. But before expressing such claims, remember that even if you're 80% correct, your opponents will slap you in the face with the remaining 20%, saying "lol your generalization is incorrect lol". <_<


I know. What do people expect, for you to make sense and have a coherent argument when you make claims about things?

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android654 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

LMAO I'm reminded of Hideo Kojima admiting he doesn't like Video Games.  Goes on to creat the popular Metal Gear series.  Turns the 4th one into a long ass movie with gameplay sections in between.  A musician who doesn't care much for most music.
Well have fun with that.


Thanks. I sure will.


Here's another for you, although it's more aggravation than self-pity. 


Theory of A Dead Man!?

I't been a while since I heard these guys. Makes me feel like I'm a goth thirteen year old all over again.


Lol. A friend of mine showed me that and told me it was my theme song. Never forgot it since.

Why so critical?

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For the love of god, click the link. It's Blue-Eyed soul not rap. Rap doesn't own the rights to violence in music. People were violent in their songs long before people conolozed the west. Violence is a human emotion and a human experience. It has a place in our art.


I would say violence for a reason does. Not purposeless violence. Not vengeful violence--or, not with a positive connotation to it.

And, slow connection but I did watch it. Interesting, but it's not something I would listen to regularly. I listen to music I identify with, that touches me to the core, that I feel.

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Elton John is dead wrote...


Give me one good rap song then. Rap consists of a man simply talking fast and often swearing. I've listened to all the so-called top rap artists over here in the UK and America and there's nothing beautiful about their songs (as music is meant to be), there's nothing thought provoking about them, there's no melody to them and there's certainly no talent in them.


You're right. But before expressing such claims, remember that even if you're 80% correct, your opponents will slap you in the face with the remaining 20%, saying "lol your generalization is incorrect lol". <_<

To be fair, 80% of every genre is crap.

And if the other 20% isn't then Elton's claims about rap music would be false. I'm trying to figure out how Imperial could possible say "You're right". If something is 80% bad and 20% good and the claim is that the whole genre is basically crap that would be false.