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Bigger disappointment, Mass Effect 3 or Dragon age 2?


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Samtheman63

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DA2 easily

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You ask me, the Dragon Age series in general is excellent. I probably rate the ME series higher, but it's a great series regardless. I would say pick them up. Get the ultimate edition of Dragon Age Origins by the way, as it has all the DLC ever released on it, and only for only about 20 bucks or so. 20 bucks for 80 hours of playtime is a great deal. Even DA2 is pretty good, so get it too if you jump into the series.

Hey, thanks for this advice. I think I might just do that. I'm going through withdrawal!

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DA2 by far.

I loved both series about equally. And while I hate, HATE ME3's ending, I can't just ignore that the rest of the game is great, and the series as a whole as perfect as you can ask for.

I literally cannot do a second playthrough of DA2. It was that bad. Everything is so tedious. All the choices even more irrelevant than they usually are in these types of games. The characters mostly mundane in comparison to DA:O. In my opinion out of the three arcs, only the Qunari was any good. The combat was improved, but they screwed that up too with the endless waves of enemies. Which wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact after you beat one wave, at night, another attacks you once you move a few yards to another area. You literally have to kill about 70 enemies just to travel to talk to someone, who asks you to kill more enemies for them. Once you do that you have to travel back to the person to tell them you killed the enemies, but in the process you have to kill another 70 enemies. And they're not even difficult to kill, either. It's not even challenging. And now I'm ranting but you get the point.

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hmmm space magic ending that is bad or a entire game without space magic that is bad

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Err...Dragon Age 2 is the worst. I completed it one time, and after that...it ended in the 20€ pile in a store.Actually only Neverwinter Nights 2 managed to anger me more. No, no, this is false. Knights of the Old Republic 2 managed to anger me more, too. So much I only buy Obsidian games when they are like 2€.

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ME3 is the bigger disappointment, mostly because expectations were so high.

DA2 was disappointing too, but that was like hitting the ground after falling off a roof.  ME3 was like skydiving and your parachute not opening at the end.

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United_Strafes wrote...

DA2, Mass Effect 3 only sucked for 5 minutes not 20 hours.

Sums it up well

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ME3 hands down.....

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ME3

I actually replayed DA2 a couple of times

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Dont Kaidan Me wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...
You ask me, the Dragon Age series in general is excellent. I probably rate the ME series higher, but it's a great series regardless. I would say pick them up. Get the ultimate edition of Dragon Age Origins by the way, as it has all the DLC ever released on it, and only for only about 20 bucks or so. 20 bucks for 80 hours of playtime is a great deal. Even DA2 is pretty good, so get it too if you jump into the series.

Hey, thanks for this advice. I think I might just do that. I'm going through withdrawal!

You can order them right now if you want.

http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/games/dragon-age-origins-ultimate-edition/78683

http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/dragon-age-origins-ultimate-edition/78684

http://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/dragon-age-origins-ultimate-edition/78680

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Mass Effect 3. It had 2.999 great games preceding its disappointment while DA2 just had one good game preceding it. Plus I didn't even bother getting DA2. I knew it was little more than an expansion pack with such a short development time. Bottom line, I care a lot less about Dragon Age than Mass Effect.

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I was really looking forward to ME3, because although I loved DA:O I never really got into it heavily or was invested in the series like ME. I don't play tons of games, so ME had a special spot on my shelves.

I bought DA2 for 9$ long after release. I still think DA2 would have been a fine game if not for the terribly boring combat, the bugs, and the constantly recycled areas. Not a true sequel to Origins in terms of gameplay, storyline, or scope, but a worthy side-story.

ME3 is the only game I've ever preordered. After a slightly rocky start, it seemed great, but as it moved along there were hints of nagging problems. Following that up with a poor ending, I can't help but look back at it as a lost opportunity and find many more problems with how it all played, stuff that I could have probably forgiven somewhat, had it ended in a complete and satisfying manner.

ME3 could have truly been a step up in every way from the past games, and was in some spots, but they dropped the ball for the rest of it. Botched awesomeness is more frustrating than a whole lot of "meh" from a lack of expectations.

I think that's the difference.

Plus, DA still has a 3rd game left to get it right. Shepard's story doesn't, unless they decide to retcon that whole statement (which'd be a bad thing.)

Modifié par OchreJelly, 07 mai 2012 - 01:24 .


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If I were an AI, the OP would trigger a paradox loop, and my head would explode.

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ME3 is definitely more disappointing. Despite it's flaws, I still quite enjoy DA2

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i like both, wasn't dissapointed with either

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shepdog77 wrote...

i like both, wasn't dissapointed with either


Pretty much this for me as well.

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ME3. It is known for the final 10 minutes. It is a three movement, uneven, but very listenable and brutal symphony, but the orchestra fails to play the finale correctly. What do the people remember? The finale. What do the music critics report THE NEXT DAY? They rip the entire performance to shreds based on the finale. That's how it is in the real world of fine art where the reviews come out after the performance. If they want to consider video games art and pull the "artistic integrity" card, they have to face the music when they pull something like they did.

DA2 wasn't hyped like ME3. It didn't have to live up to that kind of hype. DA2 had other problems, like reused dungeons, caves, etc., like that. If it didn't have those issues a lot of the other issues, including Anders destroying the Chantry would be forgiven. Granted the game had its own share of inconsistencies with the lore from DA:O. Hopefully the DA team has learned from both DA2 and from ME3 and will make a better DA3.

ME3 was the worse of the two. It's the ending that does it. At least you had the satisfaction of kicking Meredith's ass in DA2.

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I've never played DA2, but the general consensus on the web before ME3 was out was that DA2 was terrible the whole way through.

At least ME3 is (for the most part) only disliked due to the end, which was a grand total of five minutes. Saying all of ME3 was terrible because you disliked the end undermines the point of the question.

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hoodaticus wrote...

If I were an AI, the OP would trigger a paradox loop, and my head would explode.


Um... Why? Something can be a bigger disappointment then something else while still being better then the other thing. Some responses besides mine in this thread have proven that.

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There's a lot of variables to that.

I expected both games to be good. So objectively I'd have to say Dragon Age 2, because it was just hogwash.

And Mass Effect 3 was actually everything I expected and more (well there were a couple of irks). Until the ending which kind of rendered the entire game pointless.

So if you want to compare Dragon Age 2 and the ending of Mass Effect 3, I'd say the latter in terms of disappointment and quality. I wasn't disappointed by Deus Ex: HR's ending because I never really got drawn into the story. No matter how bad it was, Mass Effect 3 copied it's predecessor's was more disappointing because I cared more for and expected more from it.

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DA2 was a disappointment, but it is okay as a standalone game, not a sequel.

ME3 was supposed to be the last game in a trilogy. Instead, everything we have done and almost our entire squad in ME2 no longer matters. In fact, I could say you could skip the entire ME2 game and not notice a difference. What exactly was the purpose of ME2? Squadmates, except for Garrus and Tali...no longer important. The collector base...doesn't matter what you did. All those loyalty missions...nope, doesn't matter. That nobody left behind achievement...what a joke because...it doesn't matter.

It's not even the ending (which I think sucks) that ruined the game. It was the terrible graphics, lack of squad interaction, lack of dialogue, lack of ME2 SQUAD, and hell, I even miss the mining as opposed to what we got.

edit: Just to clarify...ME3 was a bigger disappointment by far.

Modifié par mnomaha, 07 mai 2012 - 01:47 .


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me3 was a much better game, but it was a bigger disappointment

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I wasn't especially disappointed by either game. Dragon Age II remains the best game BioWare have ever made.

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DA2's problems boil down to lack of time in development the basics of a good story are there. If nothing else I doubt EA will ever demand such a short turn around again.

My problems with ME3 are deliberate choices the ME team made in auto dialogue, the massive increase of the male gaze, stupidity of Shepard's Earth focus, the cheap attempts at emotional manipulation and then the nonsensical ending.

ME3 might be winning because my disappointment is fresher.

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andy69156915 wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

If I were an AI, the OP would trigger a paradox loop, and my head would explode.


Um... Why? Something can be a bigger disappointment then something else while still being better then the other thing. Some responses besides mine in this thread have proven that.

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