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[Kenshen]

I will say that I recognize the issues many had with DA2 but I still really like that game. However ME3 was a far bigger disappointment cause my expectations for ME3 were very high thanks to what was said pre release. Still that doesn't make ME3 a bad game.

[KotorEffect3]

First of all I think both games have gotten way more crap than they deserve but I will admit that DA 2 was flawed and underperforning. That said it was still fun and not deserving of the crap it has gotten.

With ME 3 it was great and even with the unsatisfying ending it was still great. The "issues" haters try to bring up with ME 3 are either minor or non issues.

So yeah I like both games *waits to get called a fanboy, drone, or whatever name people want use*

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 07 mai 2012 - 08:07 .

[Halo Quea]

lament.ballad wrote...

ME3. It fell so far, and I don't hate DA2. Sure, it's worse than DA:O, but I don't think it's that bad. The lack of resolution is fine, because it's not the last part of a trilogy. I'm fine with cliffhangers as long as they get resolved in the end (Off the Map, I'm looking at you).

But that's what's really the main problem here.  I don't think developers should do trilogies anymore, they're failing at producing these long protracted story arcs.  They leave SO MUCH undone that it becomes nearly impossible for them to tie up all of the loose ends that have been created along the way.

If they must do trilogies they should release more self contained chapters and abandon the cliffhangers and incomplete plots since they seem to have problems keeping the continuity straight anyway.  

[KotorEffect3]

Halo Quea wrote...

lament.ballad wrote...

ME3. It fell so far, and I don't hate DA2. Sure, it's worse than DA:O, but I don't think it's that bad. The lack of resolution is fine, because it's not the last part of a trilogy. I'm fine with cliffhangers as long as they get resolved in the end (Off the Map, I'm looking at you).

But that's what's really the main problem here.  I don't think developers should do trilogies anymore, they're failing at producing these long protracted story arcs.  They leave SO MUCH undone that it becomes nearly impossible for them to tie up all of the loose ends that have been created along the way.

If they must do trilogies they should release more self contained chapters and abandon the cliffhangers and incomplete plots since they seem to have problems keeping the continuity straight anyway.  

Well to be fair in the case of the DA series DA 2 was not meant to be a direct sequel to DAO anyway. Most of the stuff that did carry over was supposed to be a little flavoring nothing more.  I know the Leliana thing was an issue  but overall DA 2 was supposed to be a different story altogether to DAO and not the continuation of the same story.  Just a continuation of events in the DA universe.

[Abreu Road]

ME3, no doubts about that. ME3 killed the franchise, DA2 was just a bad game.

[Seboist]

They're both equally garbage. One's a medieval sub-par datesim with a combat minigame built around it and the other is a throwback to bottom of the barrel pulp schlock from the 20s/30s

[CSly]

DA2 has obvious problems, but it's ME3, no contest.

[Flextt]

I wasn't invested in DA 2 or DA in general for that matter. I played both games and didn't immerse myself like in Mass Effect, mainly because I couldn't get a handle on the gameplay of DA:O, hence I even liked that part about DA 2, because combat felt much more accessible and dynamic, though in retrospective I see people were bothered by being railroaded, the lack of choice and some strange twists.
Therefore, ME 3 was the bigger disappointment for me, but it is hardly comparable, because like I said, I basically couldn't care less about DA 2.^^

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

They're both equally garbage. One's a medieval sub-par datesim with a combat minigame built around it and the other is a throwback to bottom of the barrel pulp schlock from the 20s/30s

Ah yes "datesim" a term that the cretins at that other website you like to frequent use isn't it?  Even if you actualy pay attention to DA 2 or any other bioware games with romance options the romances consist of a very small amount of gametime.  Easily less than one percent.  So get your crap straight.  DA 2 might have alot of issues but that isn't one of them.  As far as your evalution of ME 3 it is just wrong period.

[Halo Quea]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

First of all I think both games have gotten way more crap than they deserve but I will admit that DA 2 was flawed and underperforning. That said it was still fun and not deserving of the crap it has gotten.

With ME 3 it was great and even with the unsatisfying ending it was still great. The "issues" haters try to bring up with ME 3 are either minor or non issues.

So yeah I like both games *waits to get called a fanboy, drone, or whatever name people want use*

No name calling from me, but I have to ask why you found ME3 "still great?"

Shepard was in charge of the greatest fleet that's ever been assembled,  and then suddenly he finds himself running around the back streets of London ALONE with only 2 squadmates.  How did THAT happen?  He went from fleet commander to a guy defending two trucks!! 

That is not at all how I imagined Shepard would finish his fight with the Reapers. 

[felipejiraya]

Dragon Age 2, the entire game sucks.

[Seboist]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

They're both equally garbage. One's a medieval sub-par datesim with a combat minigame built around it and the other is a throwback to bottom of the barrel pulp schlock from the 20s/30s

Ah yes "datesim" a term that the cretins at that other website you like to frequent use isn't it?  Even if you actualy pay attention to DA 2 or any other bioware games with romance options the romances consist of a very small amount of gametime.  Easily less than one percent.  So get your crap straight.  DA 2 might have alot of issues but that isn't one of them.  As far as your evalution of ME 3 it is just wrong period.

Yet we have fanboys/girls on here posting in threads dedicated to their virtual waifus/husbandus that span several hundred pages(even thousands in some cases!) and have sigs of them. It's clear why that POS DA2 is glorified around these parts and it ain't due to it's atrocious story, (lack of) choice and consequence or sub-par knock off Devil May Cry wannabe gameplay.

You ain't fooling anyone fanboy.

[Norrax]

ME3 hands down, i never thought it was possible for a video game to actually simulate the actual feeling of a punch to the crotch, untill ME3's dire ending.

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

They're both equally garbage. One's a medieval sub-par datesim with a combat minigame built around it and the other is a throwback to bottom of the barrel pulp schlock from the 20s/30s

Ah yes "datesim" a term that the cretins at that other website you like to frequent use isn't it?  Even if you actualy pay attention to DA 2 or any other bioware games with romance options the romances consist of a very small amount of gametime.  Easily less than one percent.  So get your crap straight.  DA 2 might have alot of issues but that isn't one of them.  As far as your evalution of ME 3 it is just wrong period.

Yet we have fanboys/girls on here posting in threads dedicated to their virtual waifus/husbandus that span several hundred pages(even thousands in some cases!) and have sigs of them. It's clear why that POS DA2 is glorified around these parts and it ain't due to it's atrocious story, (lack of) choice and consequence or sub-par knock off Devil May Cry wannabe gameplay.

You ain't fooling anyone fanboy.

You really think you are a badass with your clever little terms don't you when you flame other people for being fans of games that you are not because you think you are too cool and badass for them.  Instead of countering the fact the time spent on romances is a very small part of the game you bring up threads made by fans on the forums (the forums are not in the game btw, just thought I should point that out to your small minded brain).  So once again DA 2 might have it's issues but time spent on romances is not one of them.  Try to come with facts next time instead of stupid little terms when trying to sound like a wannabe badass.

[Seboist]

How small or large of a role the romances have in DA2 doesn't change the fact that they're the key appeal to it's fanbase. Fail harder fanboy.

[Peranor]

KotorEffect3 wrote...


With ME 3 it was great and even with the unsatisfying ending it was still great. The "issues" haters try to bring up with ME 3 are either minor or non issues.

For you maybe they are minor.
But you must understand that not everybody has the same view as you. Playing the "haters" card in every post won't make people look past the things they see as major issues. Even if it's minor issues from your point of view.

If a person claim that ME3 or DA2 was a big disappointment to him it's most likely because that person honestly feels that way. Not because he/she wants to rub you the wrong way 

Modifié par anorling, 07 mai 2012 - 09:10 .

[Durontan]

DA 2 was bigger disappointment. As I actually really enjoyed ME 3 till the end, while many things in DA 2 were annoying. All same level dungeon and same cave all the time. And worst thing I enter a place I was in before and it is now a different cave (even do it is still the same cave as it is all one same cave).

But I loved ME series more so... it is hard to say that I wasn't really disappointed with ME3. Ending fix better be the best thing that Bioware has ever done as I believe what little of their reputation has left is now hanging on that fix.

[Dartbeast54q]

I was expecting more out of DA2 but I enjoyed it and got my money + and dont regret preordering it one bit. ME3 on the other I regret paying 70+ bucks for when I could have gotten it for 25-30 bucks. It was a decent game but not worth buying right up front. At the same time, with all the DLC that came out with ME2, while I kind of wish I had gotten into the ME series sooner I couldnt imagine buying ME2 when it came out w/o the dlc. ME3 is still very young and I'm sure there is much DLC left to come out so we'll see.

[ZerebusPrime]

 At the risk of being booed off the forums....

I liked Dragon Age 2.  I wasn't at all disappointed with it.  It certainly had its quirks and share of issues, but it was a fun game.  Mind you, I loved Origins and this was not at all another Origins, nor did I think it needed to be.

As for ME3, I cannot condemn the whole game and all it's nuances for the sins of the final mission.  Yes, Priority Earth stank and the ending was conveyed poorly and yes that was a disappointment.  But hey, multiplayer!

[BiancoAngelo7]

ME3 no doubt

[andocrack]

Mass Effect 3 was disappointing, but Bioware is trying to do some right for free - not just a few slides that tell you what happened, but with voice actors returning to the studio and whatnot.
Dragon Age II was terrible as a game and a story. The main character is a weak protagonist and the story arc is forced. The gameplay shifted from slower and carefully strategic to a poorly-executed button-mashing fusion.

The ME3 ending was bad and had a bigger audience to see and (rightfully) speak out against it, but DA2 essentially ignores and even slightly canonizes all of the events beforehand (thus erasing the need to have even played DA:O) to reach a shallow conflict that still goes unresolved, meanwhile still slightly teasing some sort of involvement with the previous game that never happens on any level beyond cameo appearances.

[GraciousCat]

DA2 didn't have all the hype associated with it that ME3 did. In that regard, ME3 was a much bigger let-down than DA2.

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

How small or large of a role the romances have in DA2 doesn't change the fact that they're the key appeal to it's fanbase. Fail harder fanboy.

You can easily play DA 2 without romancing anyone if you desire.  You are the one that fails at basic understanding.  And "fanboy" guess you aren't allowed to use that other word anymore.

[Titus Thongger]

I have to say DA2. I really, really loved DA1. played it so many times on different origins. but DA2 was just very meh. I didnt even feel like i'd accomplished anything at all. the characters were bland, plot was bland, everything very meh meh. I never did a second playthrough.

ME3 on the other hand, while the ending was a steaming pile of poo, there were parts of the game I really loved. Rannoch, Tuchanka, Thessia, all great works of... (art?). If the ending had been half decent, I would have put ME3 as my top 1 game of all time. DA2, I couldnt really care less about it

[STEEEEVE]

DA2 was the worse game, but I had higher expectations for ME3, so I'd have to say ME3 was the bigger disappointment.