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[ShepnTali]

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

goose2989 wrote...

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

Not sure how it would ruin the game, as it's still fun regardless. But it can certainly ruin a story.

When the story is so important to the ability to enjoy a game, then this factor can absolutely ruin a game.

That I can understand. But I speak merely of the mechanics. I meant that it's fun as a shooter/pseudo-RPG(especially with multiplayer). And please note that I do not consider ME just another shooter. Just stating that it can act as one if you feel like ignoring the whole "immersive experience" thing.

I agree with this, but I do *think* story and characters are the main draw for most people, so it is easy to see how the whole experience can be ruined in that regard, fun shootin' or not.

[MrFob]

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

Not my image but this seems relevant:
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

Modifié par MrFob, 07 mai 2012 - 02:39 .

[d-boy15]

It's can if it handle very poor.

ME3 is not the first, anyone here play FEAR3?

[DJBare]

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

It screws up re-playability when you know your choices mean nothing in the end, I can jump back into the game, but I have to choose saves that I particularly enjoyed like the tuchanka mission, but once I've completed the mission I quit the game, going any further just seems pointless.

[Oldbones2]

ShepnTali wrote...

I've heard this more times than I can count, but is this true? Yes and no.

I say it's all perspective. I imagine those that claim this would feel differently if the game ended with Shepard and Star child throwing on a top hat, grabbing a cane, and doing a Me And My Shadow number, followed by a 'The End' title card.

There's a line for everyone, somewhere. I can easily understand someone still enjoying the game, even after being horrified by the ending, just as I understand easily why the whole experience can be ruined. The line and rationalization can be different for everyone, and it's not always so much a choice liking flipping a light switch on or off. Sometimes things click, and sometimes they don't.

It can and it did for me.


Frankly, I cared about the fictional characters of Mass Effect and their well being (I am fully aware this is unhealthy).

To me that ending is literally the very worst thing that could have happened to them.


And knowing that no matter what I do, no matter how much I play or how hard I try I cannot stop them from suffering through it kinda makes it pointless to play the previous games.

And I LOVED those games.

[nategator]

I remember feeling the same after finishing up a series I had spent 15 years reading and waiting on installments. At the end, I felt like my entire experience was cheapened.

In hindsight, I never agreed or accepted the decisions the author made. But as time passed, I discovered that I could go back and through most of the series recapture that same enjoyment I had the during that first read through over the 15 year period.

I hope that some of you that are going through the same emotional experience now will reach the same destination. Or at least that we'll have something better, whether by Bioware or someone else, that will make us all forget about ME 1-3 in the same way that I've forgotten about Dragon (Knight? Kingdom? Warrior?) on my NES.

Modifié par nategator, 07 mai 2012 - 02:26 .

[D24O]

I would rather have had the dance number. At least I would've gotten a laugh out of my disappointment.

[Lookout1390]

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

Sorry, some of us like more than pure action.

ME caught alot of our attention with it's story, characters, and it's galaxy.

[FatalX7.0]

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

That's rude and uncalled for. And ignorant.

[FatalX7.0]

Lookout1390 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

Sorry, some of us like more than pure action.

ME caught alot of our attention with it's story, characters, and it's galaxy.

Too bad a lot of that was taken away in Mass Effect 3.

And replaced with Gears of War.

[shurikenmanta]

Waste of time? Hardly. You played the game. You had fun doing it.

And ten minutes can only ruin a game if you allow it to.

[Iakus]

shurikenmanta wrote...

Waste of time? Hardly. You played the game. You had fun doing it.

And ten minutes can only ruin a game if you allow it to.

What's worse than finding a worm in an apple?
Finding half a worm.

The ending was half a worm.

[shurikenmanta]

also lol, the Gears of War analogy again?

Might as well say that the fauxhawk on Vega was clearly just a way to put Soap MacTavish in the game.

[comrade gando]

I feel the last 10 minutes invalidated everything you've done for the last 100+ hours of gameplay. It made me feel like I wasted my time playing the game. when I play a game I want to WIN dangit! but in mass effect there's no way to win no matter how hard you try. so yes it did indeed ruin the game for me.

[shurikenmanta]

iakus wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Waste of time? Hardly. You played the game. You had fun doing it.

And ten minutes can only ruin a game if you allow it to.

What's worse than finding a worm in an apple?
Finding half a worm.

The ending was half a worm.

Not to me it wasn't.

[matthewmi]

I still love the game but the last ten minutes are pretty pitiful compared to the rest of the series. For me no it didn't ruin the game or series but I can understand someone feeling that it does.

[FBI-Azzurri]

Are you sure about that? I think the price drop on Amazon confirms that the last 10 minutes damn well can ruin the game.

[Aaleel]

I think the last ten minutes were bad enough for some people that the game's other problems seemed trivial in comparison. Then when people tried to play it again the other things stood out more.

[shurikenmanta]

FBI-Azzurri wrote...

Are you sure about that? I think the price drop on Amazon confirms that the last 10 minutes damn well can ruin the game.

Can you substantiate that?

[Lookout1390]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

Sorry, some of us like more than pure action.

ME caught alot of our attention with it's story, characters, and it's galaxy.

Too bad a lot of that was taken away in Mass Effect 3.

And replaced with Gears of War.

That's my point.

Which is why I was incredibly disappointed with the game...THEN I got to the ending.

[shurikenmanta]

Aaleel wrote...

I think the last ten minutes were bad enough for some people that the game's other problems seemed trivial in comparison. Then when people tried to play it again the other things stood out more.

I think it's the opposite actually. The ending angered some people to the point where they looked for things to find wrong with the game.

[Volc19]

The ending removed any desire I had for replaying the single-player. I was almost enjoying ME3 until I got to the ending. Then a wave of hopelessness washed over me as the series went out with a cataclysmic set of plot holes and pseudo-intellectualism. Then it dawned on me. My choices don't matter. They simply don't. And if my choices don't matter, then what's the point of playing Mass Effect at all?

So, yes, the last ten minutes ruined not only the game, but the trilogy. The only glimmer of hope comes from the EC, which even me, ever the optimist, is skeptical about.

[Iakus]

shurikenmanta wrote...

iakus wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Waste of time? Hardly. You played the game. You had fun doing it.

And ten minutes can only ruin a game if you allow it to.

What's worse than finding a worm in an apple?
Finding half a worm.

The ending was half a worm.

Not to me it wasn't.

And I'm happy for you.

But clearly many others think differently.  Showing that, yes, the last ten minutes can indeed ruin a game.

[Lookout1390]

Ever since I beat DA2, I thought there was no way in hell Bioware would do that to the ME fanbase.

I don't understand why EA would leave things the way they are, especially when there is money to be made.

Not this stupid EC that might possibly answer a few questions for me, but everything that makes the ending ****...is being left in.

I guess Bioware/EA has a deeper plan for all this, because I sure as hell don't see it.

[FatalX7.0]

shurikenmanta wrote...

also lol, the Gears of War analogy again?

Might as well say that the fauxhawk on Vega was clearly just a way to put Soap MacTavish in the game.

That's a stupid comparison.

Combat has become the focus of the game since EA took over Bioware. They constantly try to compete with Call of Duty with their other games, Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3 for example.

With the introduction of multiplayer, with a horde mode no less, it's even more obvious that they want to draw in the Gears crowd.

The game is small, dumbed down, forced and the player is very disconnected from their character.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 07 mai 2012 - 02:39 .