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[Lookout1390]

I have never, ever, in my entire history of gaming, ever 'didn't play a game again' because an ending was bad.

I actually forgot my origin log-in info the other day because it had been so long since I last logged in.

[-Skorpious-]

Wrong. It ruined the game for me, so that makes your assumption incorrect.

[Ghostano]

shadowreflexion wrote...

 How you finish something, anything can have an effect on the complete experience. Say you started eating a croissant, it's great and right when you're about to finish it, you turn it over and notice mold at the end. Do you remember enjoying it or the mold? Let's say that you're about to be intimate, the foreplay was great but the actual act was akward. What would you remember? Better yet, you read a book and loved it. They make a movie out of it and they stick to the story 100%. When you get to the end, they completely add something that's nowhere to be found in the book. What would you remember?

 Are they adding in more info to the book? Are they answering some questions that maybe came up?

I guess in the book it woudl depend on the thing added. If it is a star child thing I would be pissed. If it was maybe a prelude to the next book the auther may be working on and decided to add it to film to get intrest in next book.

 

[cbutz]

It can and has. I have not touched the single player since beating it, nor have I replayed ME 1-2.
The game dropped the ball in many occasions as well, taking a step back from its predecessor. More people focus on the ending because it is one of the largest and catastrophic mistake. The game has more but the ending is the most urgent and sticks out the most.

[someguy1231]

shurikenmanta wrote...

also lol, the Gears of War analogy again?

Might as well say that the fauxhawk on Vega was clearly just a way to put Soap MacTavish in the game.

Actually, alot of people here on BSN said just that when he was first revealed.

[shadowreflexion]

 Wait a minute. Can it also count that many people won't invest time in TES:O because of the "ABomb" glitch. You could still play it but with spells and other animations stuck on the screen. And that was after x amount of hours playing. I know it's a bug but still, that ruined the game on a whole for many people. And the last 10 minutes of ME3 is very viral.

[shadowreflexion]

Ghostano wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...

 How you finish something, anything can have an effect on the complete experience. Say you started eating a croissant, it's great and right when you're about to finish it, you turn it over and notice mold at the end. Do you remember enjoying it or the mold? Let's say that you're about to be intimate, the foreplay was great but the actual act was akward. What would you remember? Better yet, you read a book and loved it. They make a movie out of it and they stick to the story 100%. When you get to the end, they completely add something that's nowhere to be found in the book. What would you remember?

 Are they adding in more info to the book? Are they answering some questions that maybe came up?

I guess in the book it woudl depend on the thing added. If it is a star child thing I would be pissed. If it was maybe a prelude to the next book the auther may be working on and decided to add it to film to get intrest in next book.

 

Exactly. In the book it ends with all hell breaking loose. In the movie, they change it to you dying and the world becomes a better place.

[Vlta]

I play the mp (and that is starting to become stale) but since beating the sp the first time I haven't even looked at it not to mention I can't even play ME1 or ME2 again so ya I think the ending of a game can ruin it all.

[savionen]

I'm waiting for the EC to come out, but even then I may just watch it on YouTube or something if there's no gameplay. I don't have any plans to play Mass Effect anytime soon. The ending of ME3 actively ruins the rest of the trilogy. ME1 and ME2 are still great games, and so is a portion of ME3, but it's hard to enjoy knowing what happens, and how many plot holes are created.

Harbinger and TIM are now empty shells, the Reapers aren't a real threat, the Catalyst is. Saren and Sovereign are now pointless characters since everything in ME1 basically got retconned.

Modifié par savionen, 07 mai 2012 - 03:56 .

[shurikenmanta]

someguy1231 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

also lol, the Gears of War analogy again?

Might as well say that the fauxhawk on Vega was clearly just a way to put Soap MacTavish in the game.

Actually, alot of people here on BSN said just that when he was first revealed.

I am shocked and amazed.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

Considerring that ME3 has just as much "game" in it as it does "experience the story" I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to play it again and just quit when you get knocked out or whatever.

I also understand that I was emotionally invested in this series after ME2 (I couldn't get into ME1) and that there are ppl that felt the way I did after or even during the first.....which means there would be ppl that are completely heart broken with this ending.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 07 mai 2012 - 04:42 .

[Ji99saw]

Sometimes I feel like what's the point of playing it again. (It's a little depressing)

[eddieoctane]

To quote Johnny Depp, all that matters is the ending, it's the most important part of the story.

So yes, the last 10 minutes can absolutely ruin the story.

[Zix13]

shurikenmanta wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

I think the last ten minutes were bad enough for some people that the game's other problems seemed trivial in comparison. Then when people tried to play it again the other things stood out more.

I think it's the opposite actually. The ending angered some people to the point where they looked for things to find wrong with the game.

The ****? The ending was so bad people forgot about being ripped off with day one dlc.

[Muhkida]

The ending is usually the most polarizing part of the story and is something people will remember overall before they become the judge of it. If the ending put me into a WTF mode and had me completely forget about what made ME3 great in the first place (for awhile), then there's something really wrong with it IMO.

I won't say the end totally ruined it for me, but I would compare ME3 to the New England Patriots 07' season.

[Zak MWTFunny]

ShepnTali wrote...

I say it's all perspective. I imagine those that claim this would feel differently if the game ended with Shepard and Star child throwing on a top hat, grabbing a cane, and doing a Me And My Shadow number, followed by a 'The End' title card.

Dear Bioware... please make this happen... 

[Johcande XX]

Yes, an ending can very much ruin an experience, though you do have to weigh the amount of joy in the journey with the disappointment of the end.

The ME ending ruined the series for me, due to the fact that it wasn't necessarily Shepard's story that I was interested in, it was everyone else, and most of the time, there wasn't a lot of joy to be had, it was all going to happen in a time when the Reaper threat was gone; so when the end came and everyone kinda got screwed, . . . well the journey was not enjoyable for them and sure as hell the ending wasn't, why go back and play it again. Some people really enjoy grim-dark theme narrative; personally, I do not.

That's what I feel, when I say that maybe there were some that weren't as 'invested' in the characters as other were. It's a story, my enjoyment comes from the characters enjoyment, the entertainment from gameplay mechanics was always secondary.

[MrDavid]

I have no problem with people who don't like the ending. What I hate is how so many people give Mass Effect 3 0/10. I dont' understand how the ending effects the quality of anything that comes before it. Kalross vs. The Reapers is still epic. Killing Kai Leng is awesome, and etc. By the same logic, both ME1 and ME2 rate 0/10.
If I read another person claim that Mass Effect 3 is a ****ty game just because of the ending, I swear I will bash my head through my computer screen. 

[soulprovider]

 i'd go farther than to say it ruined the game, i'd say the endings successfully ruined the franchise, they cannot go anywhere with this in the future and the very story of the first game and second game was wiped out completely. The very existences of the reaper overlord undoes the first entry of the series. If that happened then the ending does more than ruin the game its destroys the very premise the series started out with.

As it is because of this I cannot play any of the my mass effect games because now its not worth it, there no reason to replay them and to go through all of the side missions that add to the story because the events of the first game didn't happen. 

that is why the last ten minutes of the third game ruined the franchise.

[Ultra Prism]

yeah 10 minutes did made me feel like empty vessel in the darkness of the void .... I was numb ... then upset, then furstrated next I was angry ... 100 hours of ME ... then ME3 gives such shallow ending ... I was looking for spirtually or philosiphical ending ,,, I just want epic conclusion that both sad and happy...good balance of both just like LOTR ending ... if they claim Mass Effect series to be Epic Sci Fi Adventure or Story ... then its conclusion totally lacks the feature that I just mentioned .... EPIC

[Singu]

MrDavid wrote...

I have no problem with people who don't like the ending. What I hate is how so many people give Mass Effect 3 0/10. I dont' understand how the ending effects the quality of anything that comes before it. Kalross vs. The Reapers is still epic. Killing Kai Leng is awesome, and etc. By the same logic, both ME1 and ME2 rate 0/10.
If I read another person claim that Mass Effect 3 is a ****ty game just because of the ending, I swear I will bash my head through my computer screen. 

There's something extremely calculated, logical and perfect about giving the game 0/10. Just like going out with a friend who's been dumped and listening to him tirading about the girl who left him, whil you pat him on the back. And try as little as possible to contradict him.

It's a purification of thought and feeling.

I can tell you one thing MrDavid. The person who wrote that 0/10 review cared more about the game(s) than you will ever do(well, as long as they reasoned it with the endings). Maybe you would feel more real pain by bashing your cranium through your monitor, but their pain is very real while it lasts. And it's their funeral pyre for them to burn all their emotional connection on.

[shurikenmanta]

Heh - yeah, I think we can all agree that 0/10 is an outpouring of emotion. It's a bit silly, but I guess I can understand why they would say that. It's kinda like saying you hope your ex dies in a fire when you don't really mean that.

I won't lie though, I don't take 0/10s very seriously.

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 07 mai 2012 - 05:35 .

[MrDavid]

Assigning a game a score is implying that you are assessing it's quality. There's a distinct difference between "I hate this game" and "This game sucks." The difference itself is Logic vs. Emotion. Just because I don't bash Mass Effect 3 critically does not mean that I have no attachment to the franchise. Aren't things meant to be "reviewed/rated" objectively? I obviously expect to much from the internet but it's more that when I hear something that is well, flat out incorrect, I feel like I should say something.

Modifié par MrDavid, 07 mai 2012 - 05:39 .