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[Muhkida]

xsdob wrote...

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Also, to whoever said it, I liked dynasty warriors as well, but I grew distant from it after not playing it for a while.

Take it from somone who's been a sucker for DW since part 3, but part 7 is the best one out since part 4 IMO.  My views of the series maybe a little partial seeing how I'm familiar with the Romance of the Three Kingdoms and read the Ravages of Time.

[majinbuu1307]

ShepnTali wrote...

I've heard this more times than I can count, but is this true? Yes and no.

I say it's all perspective. I imagine those that claim this would feel differently if the game ended with Shepard and Star child throwing on a top hat, grabbing a cane, and doing a Me And My Shadow number, followed by a 'The End' title card.

There's a line for everyone, somewhere. I can easily understand someone still enjoying the game, even after being horrified by the ending, just as I understand easily why the whole experience can be ruined. The line and rationalization can be different for everyone, and it's not always so much a choice liking flipping a light switch on or off. Sometimes things click, and sometimes they don't.

Last 10 minutes(or seconds) can ruin anything. Examples
 
Sex- Abrubt stop for no reason.
Movie-Expendables ends with stallone doing a ballerina dance and then gets shot in the end followed by credits a split second after.
Video games-Super mario world for super nintendo, you beat bowser then he comes back and bites the princess' head off and all your trouble was for nothing.

[Catroi]

moater boat wrote...

Ruined the game? Hell it ruined the whole series, and honestly, I hope it ruins Bioware so other developers learn a lesson.

^this

[Iwillbeback]

Catroi wrote...

moater boat wrote...

Ruined the game? Hell it ruined the whole series, and honestly, I hope it ruins Bioware so other developers learn a lesson.

^this

I have a similar view on this

[Cobretti ftw]

It ruined the entire franchise for me. And i'm a BIG fan of sci fi series. I just dont have any will to replay the games after that ending. I REALLY hope that bioware fix it with the EC and DLC content, but im also REALLY skeptical. And since Diablo III is coming in a few days, i think i will permanently retire mass effect 3.

[Grissmin]

moater boat wrote...

Ruined the game? Hell it ruined the whole series, and honestly, I hope it ruins Bioware so other developers learn a lesson.

The same. I would like to know why Bioware did it.

[kiyomizu]

moater boat wrote...

Ruined the game? Hell it ruined the whole series, and honestly, I hope it ruins Bioware so other developers learn a lesson.

While I don't hope it ruins Bioware I think it is a bit like hoping the Titanic didn't hit an iceberg.  I don't see any lifeboats available for them but at least they will be safe in the knowledge that its all about the journey and not the destination. 

Modifié par kiyomizu, 07 mai 2012 - 08:23 .

[Sir_Alric]

"The last 10 minutes can't ruin the game"

Yes, they can. And they did.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

If you were fed cat poop after eating a fantastic meal would it ruin the meal you just ate? The answer is yes.

[BD Manchild]

They can and they did, in my case. Those last 10 minutes are now my overriding memory of the series, in spite of all the awesome moments up until that point. It's really soured my opinion of the franchise as a whole and puts me off replaying the series knowing that it's all leading up to nothing; worse than nothing, in fact.

[Shajar]

Fetch quests, lack of ME1/ME2 people/story and game after Thessia ruined it for me, not ending. Ending just was good finishing blow

[cyrslash1974]

Abreu Road wrote...

The endings are so powerful and so wrong that they can ruin not only ME3, but the entire franchise. Some people felt like this, so I think that this is kind of true. StarChild can ruin the series for some people. Some people can ignore Casper and go headcanon. Others, don't.

It ruined for me. Almost 2 months since I met Star Brat and I did not touch any ME game since that. To be completely honest, I did played only one time, for the turnME3on/off campaign.,

Absolutely agree.  

[Peranor]

BD Manchild wrote...

They can and they did, in my case. Those last 10 minutes are now my overriding memory of the series, in spite of all the awesome moments up until that point. It's really soured my opinion of the franchise as a whole and puts me off replaying the series knowing that it's all leading up to nothing; worse than nothing, in fact.

True. A sad fact for me is in a few years the lasting memory I will have of ME3 was the horrible ending. Believe me, I don't want to hate the game. I would rather remember it for the good moments. But the ending is so disgusting for me it just overrides all the good memories of the game.

[Grimwick]

Ummm... OP, ME3 is actually very strong evidence that 10 minutes can ruin a series. 
Just have to look around at people's posts - ergo it has ruined the series.

[Icinix]

Maybe not the game itself, but the memory and the perception of future games can be tainted for sure.

[JBPBRC]

ShepnTali wrote...

I've heard this more times than I can count, but is this true? Yes and no.

I...don't know.

[Boombox]

I didn't think the last 10 mins could either, and then I played ME3 and learned that it can not only ruin the game but also ruin an enitre series.

[L0s7]

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh

Allow me to correct you.

Maybe in Grand Theft Auto where the narrative is of almost no importance, where the entire game is focused on fun gameplay.. Then the ending can have aliens come and shoot peanut butter cups out of their eyes at everyone and it wouldn't ruin the rest of the game.

But Mass Effect is a narrative driven game. The central conflict of 1, 2, and 3 are about the impending Reaper invasion and how to stop it. The entire series concerned how to stop the Reapers. If you don't understand that the moments the entire series has been building up to are of CRITICAL importance, that's your problem. Yes a completely botched ending that invalidates and contradicts previously established plot and thematic, and ideological premises can completely sour your take away feelings about the game. Such a failure is monumental. Casey Hudson has made all of the most detestable narrative mistakes with ME3's lore. ME3 completely failed as a narrative. The whole point of having a story in the game was totally lost. The only impact it's had on people that have an implicit understanding of story structure and presentation, is that of total dumbfoundedness at how hard the ball was dropped.

[soldo9149]

I would have to say the last ten minutes can ruin a game. How i see it atleast, it makes the last two games pointless with the catalyst being on the citidal, his three ending choices are complete trash and they all destroy the galaxy as we have grown to love it. He basically use's circular logic to explain the reapers by saying he created them to preserve organic life by killing organics before they can create there own synthetics which might kill organics. So yes the last ten minutes can ruin the game if its written so horribly.

[Reorte]

The story is a huge, significant part of Mass Effect. The ending is a huge, significant part of the story. So if the ending doesn't ruin it for you then the rest of the story has failed to work for you.

I can still play MP because it feels sufficiently divorced from the rest of the game and story.

[Total Biscuit]

Has completely for me.

I actually played ME2 last night, or tried to. Managed 3 missions, and realised I was skipping cutscenes and not bothering with any investigation options, and I was basing decisions on what would finish the level fastest, not what was in character. I mean who cares if you save or leave the workers to die on Zaeeds LM? It simply doesn't matter in the long run.

I honestly have no urge to play it again, and ME2 was my all time favourite game, I adored it, playing through it at least once between each new game I bought, trying out every class and option and having prepped 6 Shepards fully for 3.

And the end made it all totally pointless and a massive waste of time and money.

I do still enjoy ME3's gameplay, though. I really missed rolling and heavy melee attacks last night. But if I want that, I've got multiplayer , which I've spent vastly more time playing than singleplayer.

This entire series was all about the setting, the characters and their stories to me, that was the game, not running around shooting people. And the last 15 minutes destroys everything I cared about so comprehensively I cannot imagine ever enjoying these games again without the current endings being completely mitigated and reversed.

Modifié par Total Biscuit, 07 mai 2012 - 09:24 .

[TsaiMeLemoni]

I really feel bad for people who have had this series ruined for them, I honestly do.

For me the endings didn't ruin either the game or the series, but I can acknowledge how it could for others. Here's hoping the EC changes things for people...

[Doctor Uburian]

I have tried to replay the game, but when i complete Ranooch, i can't continue playing.

It is extremely depressing. If the extended cut doesn't fix the endings (Clarification is hardly enough) i will just take Bioware's endings as nothing more than really bad fan fiction, unless they recognize that any good ending created by any player is as legit as theirs, but only created with less resources.

Of course, i'm an artist, and Bioware's work with the endings is not artistic, it is insulting.

[Elite Midget]

Yes it can. A Destination that ignores the Journey ruins the whole experience.