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#201
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The problem with the ending is that this is 2012. You see, the original Superman movie with Christopher Reeve, which ended with Superman flying around the Earth backward to turn back time and resurrect his girlfriend who died in an earthquake would ruin the whole movie in 2012. Thankfully for those filmmakers, it was 1978. :)

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The last 10 minutes didn't ruin it..... the rest of the game did. The ending was just the cherry on the feces sundae.

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Necrotron

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Samtheman63 wrote...

If you let 10 minutes ruin 20 hours of fun, you're just plain retarded tbh


But if you are a five time playthrough type of person, those 10 minutes will ruin the 80 hours of fun you intended to have.

Frankly, the end of the story rips away all motivation to fight the Reapers again, which is one of the reasons why sooo many people are up in arms, because it ruined the primary motivation for their beloved Shepards for not one, but three games.

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I never thought what would be possible, personally, but yea, they can.

Just looking at my reaction: Neither could I bring myself to do a 3rd playthrough in ME2, as I originally planned, nor could I do a second in ME3... all the enthusiasm for the game series was gone after I saw the ending for the first time...

EDIT: Oh, and I DID 4 playthroughs in DAO and three in DA2, so...

Modifié par WarBaby2, 07 mai 2012 - 09:42 .


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Hendrik.III

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It didn't so much destroy the game, but it did destroy the enitre story, its credibility and player experience. ME3 as a single game isn't bad, it's just that its last 10 minutes f*** up the entire story and the universe in a blaze of mediocrity.

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Seboist wrote...

The last 10 minutes didn't ruin it..... the rest of the game did. The ending was just the cherry on the feces sundae.

There's enough good stuff in the rest of the game that the mediocre parts would've not mattered as much if the ending had been OK. Hell, even if the ending had merely been mediocre itself I think a lot of fans would've come on here, said "That's bad", shrugged their shoulders and happily replayed the rest.

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Sure, the rest of the game is still brilliant! I would love to play it again, but since I now know that the story that I loved has such a crappy ending I just don't feel like it! How can I rejoice over the fantastic characters when I know they will all be marooned on a distant planet!? How can I feel good after making peace between the quarians and the geth when I know the geth will all die at the end anyway!? How can I care about all the relations between Shepard and the crew when I know he will most likely die in the end!?

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The ending is what people remember the most.

So yes.

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....but it can ruin a trilogy. Don't forget that it is not just one games ending, but the conclusion to a critically acclaimed trilogy.

Modifié par nlag, 07 mai 2012 - 10:32 .


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It was more like the last hour considering how woeful Priority Earth was and still is.

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Let me see.
NWN - ~ 14 playthroughs, NWN 2 - ~10 playthroughs
DAO - ~20 playthroughs
DA2 - 7 playthroughs
ME1 - 11 playthorughs
ME2 - 9 playthroughs
ME3 - 1 and on the 2th I stuck on Mars
....
Yes, they can. Last 2 hours (from the moment Citadel was moved to the Earth) ruined the whole series for me.

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VendettaI154

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I suppose it depends on your definition of game. It ruins the story of the game, that's a fact.

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didnt read the thread or OP (im sure its some mundane ******)

just to say, yes the last ten minutes can and did ruin everything. and then, it was so ****, it somhow started to ooze its ****ness through the community and suddenly i noticed allot of the other crap in the game, and then it dawned on me.

Bioware just pumps out **** every 12 months like the rest of the souless puppets that EA control. Started with Dragon Age 2, continued with ME3 and will happen again with DA3.

Also Bioware is leaking talent, some of the people who made DA:O amazing left ages ago, but the effects are getting easier to see as time goes on.

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Reorte wrote...

Seboist wrote...

The last 10 minutes didn't ruin it..... the rest of the game did. The ending was just the cherry on the feces sundae.

There's enough good stuff in the rest of the game that the mediocre parts would've not mattered as much if the ending had been OK. Hell, even if the ending had merely been mediocre itself I think a lot of fans would've come on here, said "That's bad", shrugged their shoulders and happily replayed the rest.

  

Well for  me  I  can agree with   the sentiment behind the statement.   Most game  it was just hype about playing ME 3 with Tuchanka and Rannoch being the high  points but once you get to the ending and start going back.   The  game's plot completely falls apart. It really just takes a nose dive  after Rannonch on Thesisa.    Really the endings  are just  the outcome of very poor impliementation of the Crucible. I ignored when I first starting playing the game but when they said-   "  We don't know what it does... but its or only shot." they proceeded not explain or spend the rest of the game finding out what Crucible does... That is a problem. 

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A terrible ending can ruin a movie, a tv series, a book and yes, a story-based videogame.

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It can ruin a story and since ME3 is a "story-driven" game, it ruined the game.

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It's like being at a GREAT party and then, at the very end, you get punched in the face.

What do you think you'll remember?

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I don't think the ending did wreck the rest of the game actually. All it did was make people step back, look at the rest of the game and actually notice all the cut corners.

It just shone the light of truth onto things.

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SinerAthin wrote...

It's like being at a GREAT party and then, at the very end, you get punched in the face.

What do you think you'll remember?


If it's that great a party, very little. :P

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Reorte wrote...

Seboist wrote...

The last 10 minutes didn't ruin it..... the rest of the game did. The ending was just the cherry on the feces sundae.

There's enough good stuff in the rest of the game that the mediocre parts would've not mattered as much if the ending had been OK. Hell, even if the ending had merely been mediocre itself I think a lot of fans would've come on here, said "That's bad", shrugged their shoulders and happily replayed the rest.

  

Well for  me  I  can agree with   the sentiment behind the statement.   Most game  it was just hype about playing ME 3 with Tuchanka and Rannoch being the high  points but once you get to the ending and start going back.   The  game's plot completely falls apart. It really just takes a nose dive  after Rannonch on Thesisa.    Really the endings  are just  the outcome of very poor impliementation of the Crucible. I ignored when I first starting playing the game but when they said-   "  We don't know what it does... but its or only shot." they proceeded not explain or spend the rest of the game finding out what Crucible does... That is a problem. 


It's true, it's not pretty and it's not polished, a lot of cheap outs have been taken, BUT if the ending was good, most of the player base would've easily overlooked a lot of downfalls throughout the game, IF the ending was good. Then they could've fixed various things through DLCs, but, well, we know the story so far.

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ShepnTali wrote...

I say it's all perspective. I imagine those that claim this would feel differently if the game ended with Shepard and Star child throwing on a top hat, grabbing a cane, and doing a Me And My Shadow number, followed by a 'The End' title card.


I'd have been happy with that...:lol:

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Paulomedi wrote...

It sure can. Watch Nobel Prize Winner Daniel Kahneman talking about that in TED:

www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html


Needs quoting because its 100 % applicable.

But here's another analogy:

Image I gave you 1,000 $. You hold the bills in your hands. They are real and you are happy. You imagine all the things you would buy with the money, which makes you even happier.
Five minutes later to your surprise I come and take them away from you again.

Net result: You are just as rich as you were five minutes ago. Plus you had five minutes of happiness while the money was in your hands.

A pretty satisfying experience, right? One you would like to repeat for sure. And you would certainly be thankful for the five minutes of happines and not at all angry at me, right?
:happy:

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Well the game has been out for three months.

During that time when Mass Effect 2 came out I finished the game about 5-6 times.

Mass Effect 3, I've only finished once and whenever I try to play again I normally just end up stopping since the ending just makes it feel like a pointless thing to do.

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The ending has really made the kid at the beginning less sympathetic. Now when I see his shuttle get blown up I laugh, ah who am I kidding, I laughed at that before I knew he was evil.

The ending isn't so bad if you pretend it isn't real. Denial ftw!

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The last ten minutes did not ruin the game.

It borderline ruined the Mass Effect 'setting'/'universe' though. Which I try not to care about anymore, but I do.