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 ....andihave no idea what to expect. Well, maybe some idea as I have played through the Mass Effect series. Couple of questions...

Am I going to hate myself for skipping the first DA? Having played ME, I know how important it was to play all three. Is it the same with DA?

How complicated is it to figure out? I loved ME because while it was a RPG with a lot going on, it was still easy to learn how everything worked. From combat to the best way to go about completing a game without missing anything. 

What are some things you think I should know before I start playing? Any tips or suggestions to help me get going and stay going?

Thanks for your input.

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Well, Dragon Age tells their story a little different. You have a few cameos in DA2 but you have a completely different setting and new main character. Mass Effect focuses on Shepard's story. Dragon Age tells Thedas(the entire continent) story. DA devs like to explore other things rather than say--just focusing on the Reapers through three games. They have too much going on in Thedas to just stay on the Darkspawn from DA:O.

Do you still need to play DA:O? I'd say yes to understand the world. The first game is centered around the Darkspawn threat. DA2 is about the Mages and Templars in one city, Kirkwall, which will eventually lead to all of Thedas in DA3(obviously). They still touched up a lot about the lore between Mages, The Circle, Chantry and Templars in DA:O. It's a lot to absorb, IMO. I don't think it's a good idea to skip the first game and play DA2. DA:O is also a better overall game, IMO. DA2 had some radical changes to the franchise. Some good, some bad.

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You might not understand what's going on at first without exposition from the first game. There's a blight going on which basically amounts to an orc invasion. Mages are oppressed by religion and there's a group of horned giants who follow a different religion and also want to conquer the world and oppress mages.

I think you have enough exposition now.

Gameplay-wise it's pretty straight-forward.

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You might not understand what's going on at first without exposition from the first game. There's a blight going on which basically amounts to an orc invasion. Mages are oppressed by religion and there's a group of horned giants who follow a different religion and also want to conquer the world and oppress mages.

I think you have enough exposition now.

Gameplay-wise it's pretty straight-forward.


I'm guessing you're pro-mage.

Besides, that's all stuff (except the blight part) that happens in-game, not before it.

And OP, you definitely need need NEED to play DA:O. I wouldn't say it's too too necessary before DA ][, but it does help a lot.

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There's an encounter at the beginning of the game that might not make sense without knowing about the deal with mages and religion, I didn't say any of that would be relevant to DA2's overarching plot. :innocent:

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^ Ah, that's so.

Edit: I don't really think mages were "oppressed" in DA:O...but that's a topic for another time.

Modifié par EternalAmbiguity, 07 mai 2012 - 06:13 .


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Yes, you will totally hate yourself for not playing the first one.

For sooooo many reasons!

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If you enjoy Mass Effect 2 then you should try DA 2. They're basically the same cinematic action rpg with different setting. You don't need DAO. It doesn't continues DAO story but some reference of DAO's events may occur in DA 2.

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DA: Origins was entertaining and a great introduction to the world of Dragon Age. It was not hard to get into really, just a bit harder than da2.

DA2 was streamlined and simplified compared to DA:O. Faster combat, over the top animations. I found it a bit bland and disappointing when compared to DA:O though.

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I was one of those that played ME3, without playing any of the prior material. And so while the ending did not bother me as much as it bothered ME fans that had played the whole series (because I did not have the same emotional attachment to the franchise), I also probably did not enjoy the rest of the game as much, because of things that I missed from the first two games.

The ending of DA2 will not have the same impact on the DA series as the ME3 ending did, so for that reason, you are probably safe to not play DAO first. However, I think you are missing out, by not playing DAO, and getting a much more in depth history of the Dragon Age world, before you go play the small corner of it, that is the DA2 setting.

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Opthanks for the input! I changed my GameQ to ship Origons first. Anyone want to tell me what to expect, choices wise? Do I have to choose sides like in ME? I understand that DA is different in that the series doesn't follow one character, but are my choices still important from game to game?

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No, choices do not matter between games. You will get different cameos from Origins characters depending on Origins choices, and some slightly different dialog.

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If you are playing Origins first you may want to play Awakening too though. (the DLC expansion), as it has one character in it that becomes a companion in DA2.

I won't talk about in game choices though, except to say there are several within DAO that affect the end game and a  few in DA2 that don't affect the end game but may affect what companions are available fo the end.

Modifié par Shinian2, 07 mai 2012 - 03:02 .


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Snkk2000 wrote...

Opthanks for the input! I changed my GameQ to ship Origons first. Anyone want to tell me what to expect, choices wise? Do I have to choose sides like in ME? I understand that DA is different in that the series doesn't follow one character, but are my choices still important from game to game?


Your choices will have serious consequences within DA:O, and making the *right* choice won't always lead to the best outcome (just like real life), so be prepared for that. Honestly, I suggest playing through DA:O without any worries and then making your second playthrough your "perfect" playthrough if you find yourself wishing that things had gone differently.

Your choices in DA:O affect the world in a big way, but you never really see that reflected much in DAII because your new character isn't really a world traveler. Big hopes for DAIII, though. Image IPB

Avoid spoilers as much as you can, because it will totally ruin DA:O's sense of "Oh no they didn't! - Oh yes they did." It's full of surprises and hidden things in corners.

And I definitely recommend not playing a warrior that uses a two-hander weapon. Soooo slow.

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What do you mean by avoid spoilers? Do you mean searching the forums or in the game?

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Snkk2000 wrote...

What do you mean by avoid spoilers? Do you mean searching the forums or in the game?


Yeah, I'd stay away from forums that allow spoilers (I'd even be careful on this one because spoilers do happen even though they're not technically allowed... that's just what comes of the game being out for awhile now) and I'd stay away from other websites or game reviews that give away story points.

Like anything in life, DA is much better served fresh. Image IPB

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I'm envious! It was soo much fun to play through DA:O and DA II for the first time

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I guess you might be a little confused for the first 30 minutes of the game. If you really care, read all the codex entries you'll be given during the "tutorial" (until you gain entrance into Kirkwall. Basically, the DA2 demo) and that should cover the basics of everything you need to know lore-wise. The rest will be largely explained through conversation as you can ask questions about various topics to various people (or not explained at all in some cases because some things must remain mysterious).

To sum up in very simple terms :

The darkspawn : TheDAs' token "chaotic evil race". Sort of a mix between orcs and the undead from other settings. They're usually found under the surface, in the remains of the dwarven kingdoms. Usually more a nuisance than a threat.

The blight : A once-every-few-centuries occurence, a massive world-wide darkspawn invasion on the surface where they reproduce at an alarming rate and become organized. Main object of the plot of Dragon Age : Origins.

Grey Wardens : An order of people from all races and origins (though mostly humans and warriors it seems) dedicated to fighting the darkspawn, averting and stopping the blights. The protagonist of DAO was one.

The chantry : The dominant religion in most of Thedas (and in the regions visited in DAO and DA2). Worship a unique god-creator : "the Maker", and his prophet : a woman named Andraste. Trivia : priesthood is restricted to females. Strongly opposes unrestricted use of magic for historical reasons.

Templars : A military order, subordinated to the chantry. They're mostly responsible for enforcing the control of mages. Mages are kept in 'circles' from early childhood, under the watch of templars, to isolate them from normal humans. This is for the safety of both groups. In theory anyway. Also a respectable military power in their own right.

Apostate : What the chantry calls a mage who is not part of a circle. Technically illegal anywhere where the chantry has authority. Offenders may be captured and sent to a circle or killed on sight just to be safe, depending on circumstances.

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Raiynsong wrote...

I'm envious! It was soo much fun to play through DA:O and DA II for the first time


Whilst i loved DA:O off the bat, i loathed DA2, for reasons that have been discussed to death on these forums.  However, after binning the game a week after its release, i've only got back to it last week and I'm enjoying it this time around.

I think the overriding reason behind why I'm now enjoying it is i'm playing it with little or no hope and real expectations, like i did first time around. I picked it up because i wanted to play an action adventure game and I'm happy playing it for what it is.

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Snkk2000 wrote...

Am I going to hate myself for skipping the first DA? Having played ME, I know how important it was to play all three. Is it the same with DA?


Some of the story won't be too clear, but otherwise, you will have a pretty good grasp on what's going on. But I think you will probably hate yourself for not playing the first one, because it is a stellar game and one I think is superior to DA2 in every way possible.

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Snkk2000 wrote...

Opthanks for the input! I changed my GameQ to ship Origons first. Anyone want to tell me what to expect, choices wise? Do I have to choose sides like in ME? I understand that DA is different in that the series doesn't follow one character, but are my choices still important from game to game?


If you enjoy DAO, be prepared to be disappointed with DA2

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Oh, the A button stands for "Awesome."

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Be prepared to see "innovation" at it's finest.

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I think DA2 can stand alone, but it's better to play both DAO and DAA beforehand. It's your cash and your time, however.

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wsandista wrote...

If you enjoy DAO, be prepared to be disappointed with DA2


That's odd, because I loved both.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

wsandista wrote...
If you enjoy DAO, be prepared to be disappointed with DA2

That's odd, because I loved both.

can't tell if trolling or serious...