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[nategator]

Well a beam brought him up to the Citadel so a beam could bring him down. There happens to be one to his left ...

[balance5050]

zambingo wrote...

I'm sorry, you must not know what "quotes" can mean. Shep "survived" smashing into a planetoid. The game tells us enough was left of the brain and other parts to "grow back" Shep and not a create clone etc.

LOL! SHep didn't "survive" in ME2, he died, he was brought back after two years of intense stem cell and synthetic treatements.

Shep wakes up in London becuase he never left London in the first place. The white light "dream transition" effect symbolizes this.

Modifié par balance5050, 07 mai 2012 - 06:35 .

[balance5050]

nategator wrote...

Well a beam brought him up to the Citadel so a beam could bring him down. There happens to be one to his left ...

You mean the beam that's pointing out to the middle of space?


http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

Modifié par balance5050, 07 mai 2012 - 06:29 .

[Belisarius09]

Obviously, Shepard went SSJ and flew back to earth, and then took a nap in the rubble, jeez how did you not get that.

[zambingo]

The thread OP asked for non-IT explanation.

1. We don't know enough about the nature of the blast or fictional technology to be certain about the survivability of anything.

2. The Citadel/Crucible Megazord is a gigantic space gunz.

3. The Crucible is docked behind the explosive cloud we see.

4. The explosive cloud we see could be gigantic space gunz muzzle fire.

5. Muzzle fire does not usually destroy the weapon, however...

6. The Citadel/Crucible Megazord gigantic space gunz is not necessarily being used within "intended factory specifications".

7. While the force from the muzzle fire blooms out, extending forward it breaks apart the barrel of the gigantic space gunz, possibly leaving the firing pin (the Crucible) intact.

8. We don't know the exact location of Shep, Starchild or the Destroy Boomstick that Shep shoots.

9. Shep gets engulfed in the Destroy Boomstick's explosion, but Shep's miraculously survived before.

10. Still don't get the possibility? Start back at #1.

balance5050 wrote...

zambingo wrote...

I'm sorry, you must not know what "quotes" can mean. Shep "survived" smashing into a planetoid. The game tells us enough was left of the brain and other parts to "grow back" Shep and not a create clone etc.

LOL! SHep didn't "survive in ME2, he died, he was brought back after two years of intense stem cell and synthetic treatements.

Shep wakes up in London becuase he never left London in the first place. The white light "dream transition" effect symbolizes this. this.

Again the thread asks for a non-IT explanation.

Also the games repeatedly tell us that Shep is in fact Shep. That while, yes you are correct, it takes two years of "re-growing" via space magic medicines... Shep was in fact re-grown, not cloned. There was enough brain stuffs and space cowboy boner pieces left to grow from that. Shep is Shep. Shep "survives" smashing into a planetoid.

[balance5050]

Explain the ending without IT or space magic..... Have fun with that!!

[zambingo]

I just did. If you want more than that then maybe fiction isn't something for you.

[Unschuld]

balance5050 wrote...

Explain the ending without IT or space magic..... Have fun with that!!

I did.

Unschuld wrote...

 Shepard DID wake up in London.
After shooting out the safety glass on the "Destroy" tube, the initial explosion became an implosion, sucking him into the now exposed escape pod which blasted off the citadel and back down towards London, where it crashed into the rubble. When Shepard woke up he go home and be a family man. 

 

I actually find it plausible, and it's my favorite non-IT explanation that I've ever come up with a few minutes ago. 

[balance5050]

Belisarius09 wrote...

Obviously, Shepard went SSJ and flew back to earth, and then took a nap in the rubble, jeez how did you not get that.

How did I not see it before??!!

[balance5050]

@Unschuld

You are straight ON FIRE today man!!

[balance5050]

 


BTW, that is the crucible exploding, if you watch in 1080p you see the debris from the crucible flying out of the explosion.

Modifié par balance5050, 07 mai 2012 - 06:53 .

[Yorkston9152]

what i want to know is how ANY part of shepard could of made it through that blast. the central part of the citadel looks like it gets vaporized along with parts of the arms. I'm not gonna go through the whole "well Cerberus did it once" thing, because apparently there was enough large enough chunks inculding Shepards head to do the whole jesus thing. With an explosion that big, how in gods name do you think even a few inch's of brain matter would be left?

Edit: also, why does shooting something with a pistol send energy that only kills "reapers"?

Modifié par Yorkston9152, 07 mai 2012 - 07:08 .

[zambingo]

www.google.com/search muzzle flash/fire

Modifié par zambingo, 07 mai 2012 - 07:08 .

[balance5050]

Yorkston9152 wrote...

what i want to know is how ANY part of shepard could of made it through that blast. the central part of the citadel looks like it gets vaporized along with parts of the arms. I'm not gonna go through the whole "well Cerberus did it once" thing, because apparently there was enough large enough chunks inculding Shepards head to do the whole jesus thing. With an explosion that big, how in gods name do you think even a few inch's of brain matter would be left?

He would have been vaporized, completely.

Modifié par balance5050, 07 mai 2012 - 07:08 .

[Yorkston9152]

zambingo wrote...

www.google.com/search muzzle flash/fire

its still heat and energy. If you feel the tip of a gun, its red hot and from some of the pics ive seen it appears to engulf the center of the citidel. Also, it's firing a beam of energy, not a projectile. Muzzle flash from what i understand is the gunpowder exploding and projecting the bullet forward. Once it exits the gun, the heat and energy are exposed to a larger area and dissipate. The beam how ever is not a projectile. It is a beam of energy, and there for is being pushed by its own power. Lazers do not have muzzle flash's when you use them, nor does anything else that shoots a beam of energy such as a flash light. It is a constant stream of energy that follows a set path in till effected by an outside force.



Edit: also for it to be a "muzzel flash" explosion that size, the citidel would have to be in some type of combustible atmosphere, not the vacume of space. for it to cause a fireball that big, it would have to be using other compounds other then what ever basic propellent it had. And after watching the destory ending, the main explosion happens AFTER the beam of energy leaves. I may not be a gun expert or heavy on physics, but I believe that a muzzle flash happens before and during the bullet or what ever is being fired.

Modifié par Yorkston9152, 07 mai 2012 - 07:22 .

[vv238email]

Unschuld wrote...

 Shepard DID wake up in London.
After shooting out the safety glass on the "Destroy" tube, the initial explosion became an implosion, sucking him into the now exposed escape pod which blasted off the citadel and back down towards London, where it crashed into the rubble. When Shepard woke up he go home and be a family man. 

So the starchild lied to you?

[Archontor]

zambingo wrote...

www.google.com/search muzzle flash/fire

 

It's a CITY in SPACE I assure you it does not work like a gun least of all because it dosen't shoot solid matter it emits energy, it's more like a giant radio antenna. Granted it's really, really hard to get those to explode.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

hmmm...No Space Magic. And no Indoctrination Theory, so that only leaves one answer...

[zambingo]

Yorks, you're right. Muzzle flash happens essentially as the projectile leaves the barrel, not after.

Like all spectulation there are holes in what I presented. However it's fiction, anything is possible.

Us geeks stomach that Star Trek transporters work, even though much of what we understand about the fictional process of transporting in addition to actual science should suggest managing a dissolving and piecing together of such a manner would be unlikely at best.

But... it's fiction... we roll with it.

What I presented is plausible. To deny the possiblity of it, as some have (not you mecessarily), is to just desire to remain angry/miserable at the end etc.

Now I'm not saying what I presented must be, just it could be. There is a fictional plausibility to it that exists on the same level of plausible that all of us geeks swallowed when we bought into the Mass Effect franchise. Nothing I presented is outside of the fantasticness we've already bought into.

[VibrantYacht]

balance5050 wrote...

 

This is a horrible sheet of paper.

[edisnooM]

Wait, the Citadel was pointing away from Earth with the back facing the planet.So the Crucible comes in and docks with the Citadel at the back.

How?

It flies in does a 180, swings back around and docks neatly with the tower? In what would seem rather close orbit around Earth? In the middle of a battle? Nothing in it's design led me to believe it was very maneuverable or that the thing could turn on a dime.

I always assumed it was docking at the front and it was just a straight approach, now I'm getting more confused.

Modifié par edisnooM, 07 mai 2012 - 08:03 .

[FBI-Azzurri]

balance5050 wrote...

Explain the ending without IT or space magic..... Have fun with that!!

I agree with this! 

[antares_sublight]

edisnooM wrote...

Wait, the Citadel was pointing away from Earth with the back facing the planet.So the Crucible comes in and docks with the Citadel at the back.

How?

It flies in does a 180, swings back around and docks neatly with the tower? In what would seem rather close orbit around Earth? In the middle of a battle? Nothing in it's design led me to believe it was very maneuverable or that the thing could turn on a dime.

I always assumed it was docking at the front and it was just a straight approach, now I'm getting more confused.

Good point. Shield fleet has valet-parking level driving skills.

[Eugenious]

Zanza86 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

wait a minute where the hell did the crucible go.

You weren't meant to notice!

OMG I JUST NOTICED THAT...where is it????
....Cancel that.... The citadel opens weird..... who designed it like that....lolz

Modifié par Eugenious, 07 mai 2012 - 08:21 .

[edisnooM]

antares_sublight wrote...

edisnooM wrote...

Wait, the Citadel was pointing away from Earth with the back facing the planet.So the Crucible comes in and docks with the Citadel at the back.

How?

It flies in does a 180, swings back around and docks neatly with the tower? In what would seem rather close orbit around Earth? In the middle of a battle? Nothing in it's design led me to believe it was very maneuverable or that the thing could turn on a dime.

I always assumed it was docking at the front and it was just a straight approach, now I'm getting more confused.

Good point. Shield fleet has valet-parking level driving skills.

Extra dialogue in the EC:

"Uh, so can you validate our parking?"