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How did Shepard Survive the Red Ending


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Catamantaloedis wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

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Shepard clearly died of suffocation before he descended back to the planet, and spent some time entering the atmosphere. His armor also likely has some kind of environmental protection, although I'm speculating on that point.


You know David Blaine held his breath for 17 minutes right?

And people have been drowned in cold water and recovered after hours of no oxygen.

EDIT: also, freezing atmoshere went right into his suit after his oxygen tube disconnected.

David Blane, didn't suffocate to death. People only recover from lack of oxygen that extreme in cold temperatures because blood pressure slows down because of hypothermia, allowing some flow of oxygen to remain. But that doesn't mean that the lack of oxygen didn't cause any brain damage or memory loss. And it certainly doesn't mean that extreme and rare cases of survival can be applied to people who literally DIED from suffocating. 

And if freezing air went into his suit, then that also means that extreme heat went into his suit during reentry into the atmosphere, which brings up more problems in itself.


Welp, can't say I didn't try, seems completly plausible in the future to me! You must really hate Mass Effect, huh?


No, I love Mass Effect, it's one of, if not my favorite series of video games. That doesn't mean I have to pretend everything that happens makes sense, especially with this third entry. You have to suspend disbelief for some of these things.


Exactly, it's called science fiction. The point is that the lazerus project makes sense in the context of the rules set forth by the lore of the game, we're not talking about IF IT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE IRL.

The Shepard Alive scene was always supposed to make you go "Wait... WTF!?" because it defies the rules that the lore has already set up.

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That wasn't working when I tried it the last few times. Must've been doing something wrong I guess

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

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 now you know and...

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LOL! Gosh darn Kaiden lovers....

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With the power of imaaginaaaaaaaation!!!!!!!

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His Hearthstone was set to London.

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Linksys17 wrote...

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Extreme levels of badass.

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Somebody must have replaced his kinetic barriers with the power of PLASMA!

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Artistic integrity

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Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.

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Artistic Integrity

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Navasha wrote...

Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.



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What I don't quite understand is how Shepard breathes in space when talking to the Catalyst...

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lordofdogtown19 wrote...

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thank you YOU ARE GODDDDDDDDD:O

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Navasha wrote...

Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.


The Citadel is a relay, the first one in the chain, and as you can see the explosions are starting on the other parts of the Ciiadel before the cut away.

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Aaleel wrote...

Navasha wrote...

Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.


The Citadel is a relay, the first one in the chain, and as you can see the explosions are starting on the other parts of the Ciiadel before the cut away.

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The crucible blows up after the beam.


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Artistic Integrity or *space magic* take your pick...

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Surviving giant explosions and planetary entry is easy cakes for The Shep.

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Zardoc wrote...

Navasha wrote...

Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.



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Thats not an explosion, That's just reflected sunlight on a weatherbaloon...

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balance5050 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Navasha wrote...

Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.


The Citadel is a relay, the first one in the chain, and as you can see the explosions are starting on the other parts of the Ciiadel before the cut away.

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The crucible blows up after the beam.


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What does this have to do with me showing a person that said the Citadel never explodes proof that the Citadel goes up too?  Everything went that's the point, as you can see it's still starting to explode after the beam is gone, right before the cut away,

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Aaleel wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Navasha wrote...

Its the crucible that is blowing up in that scene. The citadel never explodes.


The Citadel is a relay, the first one in the chain, and as you can see the explosions are starting on the other parts of the Ciiadel before the cut away.

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The crucible blows up after the beam.


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What does this have to do with me showing a person that said the Citadel never explodes proof that the Citadel goes up too?  Everything went that's the point, as you can see it's still starting to explode after the beam is gone, right before the cut away,

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Correct, I'm just reaffirming that both the crucible and the citadel are destroyed after you choose destroy.

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The Citadel doesn't explode. There is a mushroom of doom, but the Citadel doesn't explode. There is a distinct difference. The Citadel breaks apart at it's key contact points while suffering what looks like shock wave and impact damage. The Crucible, which is behind the blast, is never seen after the mushroom of doom and in fiction that means "fate unknown". The Presidium, the ring structure, is ground zero and in all likelihood suffered catastrophic damage... however we never see the mushroom of doom dissipate and this being fiction the qualifier of "fate unknown" has to be acknowledged again, but in the Presidium's case add an asterisk for "unlikely to have survived".

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Something interesting is that the Red fire that envelops the earth kills the soldiers if EMS is low and spares them if it is high. The soldiers are wiped out or spared regardless of whatever cover they hide behind.

It seems this explosion, despite looking like generic fire and force, is different. It looks like it can go through solid objects without damaging them.

With this in mind I hypothesize that joker crash landed from burning out the normandy engines while trying to out run the wave.

I can also surmise that shepard survives the citadel explosion because of the nature of the explosion....If the soldiers on earth can survive the wave of fire or die to it depending on EMS, than so can shepard.

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zambingo wrote...

The Citadel doesn't explode. There is a mushroom of doom, but the Citadel doesn't explode. There is a distinct difference. The Citadel breaks apart at it's key contact points while suffering what looks like shock wave and impact damage. The Crucible, which is behind the blast, is never seen after the mushroom of doom and in fiction that means "fate unknown". The Presidium, the ring structure, is ground zero and in all likelihood suffered catastrophic damage... however we never see the mushroom of doom dissipate and this being fiction the qualifier of "fate unknown" has to be acknowledged again, but in the Presidium's case add an asterisk for "unlikely to have survived".

shroom of doom :o gotta give ya credit for that one mate, should be the name of a norweegen death metal band

however

they all dead anyway - citadel breaks apart instead of going boom - ok i can deal with that, but all those parts are now in the grip of earths gravity well, being unpowered and all that. thats a long way to fall with a big splat at the bottom.