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[coldwetn0se]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

So....

Where are the earrings?

I did everything. I swear it. We're in a romance - that sex scene triggered and everything. He's at 100% approval. When we're at camp, he still wants to "go to the tent" with me. I killed Taliesen (Zev fought alongside me too) and  completed the Landsmeet quest. I even killed Loghain.  The next quest says "final onslaught" so it's obviously complete. 

And YES. I gave him the gloves and the boots.


 Zev is still at 100% approval and still wanting to go to the tent. I can't trigger the cut scene where he offers the earring. It just goes straight to the usual dialogue options, or a request to go to the tent for the umpteenth time.

And no - not in a romance with anyone else. 

So... what's wrong? A bug? 

p.s. Ah well. Just a stupid item from the game. I don't get it, then I don't get it. I assume it's a bug. From everything I've read - it's buggy as hell. And no, I can't fix it with a mod - I play on the 360. And even with a mod, you have to go back and play it to trigger it. Not worth it. I put a lot of time in thus so far. My brain is bleeding at the thought of going back to redo it. My prior save is before the deep roads quest and... yeah... not repeating that one again. (I hated that quest...)

So nevermind. It's obviously a bug. Sure hope they fix more of those when the 3rd installment comes out. What a shame.

Tristan, are you completely done with this run through already?  And question, did Zevran offer you the earring AFTER you finished off Talisen?  If so, did you refuse it?  Let me know.......One thing you could try (since it's easy and wouldn't mess with anything), if you have the feast day pranks/gifts, give him a couple lumps of coal, to actually lower his approval/love.  Then try talking to him at camp again.  Not sure if this will do anything, but it also is easy to just not save, or give him cakes to raise his meter back up.

[mnomaha]

And also (it's been a while) unless you have a mod...if you refuse it the first time and take it the second time, it won't show up in your inventory. Unless they actually fixed that, which I doubt.

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

And also (it's been a while) unless you have a mod...if you refuse it the first time and take it the second time, it won't show up in your inventory. Unless they actually fixed that, which I doubt.

Very true (hey lady).  No, they never fixed the "earring in your inventory" bug.  Still get all the dialogue (and meaning) from accepting the earring at camp.

hmmmmm....I might need to put in DAO later.  I could do with a bit of Zev lovin' right about now. 

[coldwetn0se]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Zev never offered the earring whatsoever. Killed talisen and he never once offered the earring. Not once.

hmmmm....maybe it is a bug.  Did you initiate a convo with him right after the Talisen fight?  Do you have a save right before or after that fight?  Not sure if this matters, but were you romancing Alistair or Leliana at the same time as Zev?
I play on the xbox as well, and have had the romance trigger properly, so that is why I am asking some of these questions. 

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

If memory serves (I can't check the toolset right now) there is a bug with Zevran if, after killing Taliesen, you pick a certain response. I think it's the one where Zev kisses you, but not positive. Suffice to say, If you're at 100 approval, romance is active and Taliesen's dead, after that auto-conversation with Zevran the very next dialogue with him should be the earring offer.

Unless you can fix it with the console, you might have to load a pre-Taliesen game.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 07 mai 2012 - 09:55 .

[Issala]

Right after the battle with Taliesen, when you're talking to Zevran, there is an option if you ask him what he wants to do, where you can either tell him you want him to stay or say something along the lines of, "It'll be harder to kiss you if you're gone." Then, yes, he'll kiss you, but never actually fall in love with you and offer the earring. You have to tell him to stay.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

o_O Sounds like you have a bung game if you have that many issues. Or you're using bad mods. What version patch are you using?

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

It might be worth asking about your problem in the 360 technical forum, but I did a quick search for Zevran in there and couldn't turn up anything relevant. I think dialogue bugs will never be addressed. There are still so many things wrong with the game that PC users resort to mods, which doesn't help console users. :/

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

At its roots the dialogue system is quite basic. A conversation file is only as complex as the author chooses to make it. The problems usually arise when a writer forgets to set a flag, unsets it by accident somewhere, spells it wrong, or gets the logic messed up. The bigger the dialogue, and the more interaction with other NPCs (which will set their own flags), the bigger the potential for something going wrong. And since there's sooo many dialogues in DA:O and far far more branching than in DA2 it'd be hard to beta test every single dialogue path to determine where something breaks.

DA2 has its bugs too, the most notorious for Zevran-romancers being that Zev behaves as though there was no romance. Code-delvers managed to extract dialogue for him from DA2 where he has separate lines for a romanced Warden and an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden, but we only see the unromanced lines. :/

Of course, importing flags from a previous game is an issue of its own.

[ejoslin]

It's actually a bug. I bet the conversation immediately after Taliesen didn't trigger either. What happens (and this happens more often on consoles) is just after the fight with Taliesen and the crows, there's enough lag where that conversation can be delayed for up to a minute. If you leave the area, that conversation will never trigger, which means that Zevran will never update to Love, which means no offer of the earring but still in-camp sexytimes.  

Edit: Ok, I'm wrong about what happened.  I really need to read an entire thread before posting!  But yeh, it sounds like for whatever reason the game glitched and you didn't get his romance updated to love for whatever reason.  That's odd that that happened.  It's possible you took a choice that put you on the friendship route instead.

Did you get the "Friendship" conversation where Zevran thanks you for freeing you from the crows?  

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 mai 2012 - 10:44 .

[ejoslin]

Oh, there's one other possibility. If you did get the conversation where Zevran thanks you for freeing him from the Crows, it's possible to unset the new approval if you tell him you just did what you had to do. This wouldn't cut off the romance, but it would drop him back to adore. You'll get this conversation before the offer of the earring if you wait until you're in camp to click on him.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Hm...Trista said she spoke to Zev right after the fight and told him to stay. She's reporting delays in triggering convos, but this part, at least, seems to have happened correctly without leaving the area.

I suppose the next question for Trista is, as he's at 100 approval, after that convo does he update to 100 Love? Or is he stuck at Adore?

Because if there's a delay in the convo setting the actual flag when it's meant to happen... o_O I don't even know if that happens, but I know nothing about how the console lag bugs work.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 08 mai 2012 - 10:49 .

[ejoslin]

Yeh, I crossed that out after as I realized I had that wrong. The Xbox only has the meter, it doesn't say what the approval is -- of course, the greeting is still different for the approval changes (Zevran changes to "I am yours" when he goes to Love happens on all platforms).

My guess is that the approval didn't update for some reason if she didn't get those conversations.  Since there were delays and since the flag itself isn't set until the end of the conversation, it may have terminated itself early or something.  If she were on the PC she could force the approval update, but since she's on a console, there's no joy there :/

Edit: Oh, just read her edit and the approval most DEFINITELY didn't update. She got the "in love" dialog at the gates that instead wrongly triggered at "Adore" on unmodded games. Probably the conversation just glitched out. Of course, she got the nicer gate dialog, so there is that  Console users and un-fixed-PC users who have him "in love" properly get the friendship dialog there.  I HATE that bug more than any.

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 mai 2012 - 11:08 .

[CuriousArtemis]

This is somewhat relevant and I don't know where to ask this since I'm not sure if there is an actual Zevran thread? (I usually hang out in the DA2 forum).

But I am trying to play a more shy Warden and didn't blatantly flirt with Zevran. I was careful to pick one or two romance starter lines though that let him know that Theron returned his interest. But sadly Zevran thus never offered to give him a massage, even after 90% approval.

I did however have the option to ask him to come into the tent, and he did, and they made sweet sweet elven love. And then of course there was the whole conversation about, where is this going, blah blah blah, and I had Theron ask about love, which is what I usually do, and Zevran gets skittish, etc. But so I think the romance is on, though it's odd he never asked my poor shy Warden to his tent first.

Is this normal, do ya think? I wish more NPCs would initiate the romances; I like to play really shy characters.

[caradoc2000]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

I assume there's a romance achievement to unlock if you properly romance anyone in Origins, right?

Yes, and there is also one when you do all four.

[CuriousArtemis]

Oh yeah, well this is my third playthrough (and third time romancing Zevran xD) so I've already done that achievement.

Yeah I finally found the thread xD

[Corker]

If you ask Zevran to the tent, there is no massage conversation. That's his way of breaking the ice on the subject when the Warden doesn't initiate before his approval hits a certain level.

Or: there's a range of approvals where he's interested enough to accept the Warden's offer, but not interested enough to risk asking himself. Eventually, he's interested enough that he'll ask.

ejoslin has a ridiculously awesome Zevran Romance FAQ that answers most questions about how the Zevran romance is or isn't working.