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[Direbrute]

addiction21 wrote...

Direbrute wrote...

I'll answer that for him. "I can sit on my couch and play."

That's the generic console defense. Oddly enough I've sat my ass at my computer desk for 8 hours at a time without feeling the slightest discomfort.

Good chair or a fat ass?

lol. Little bit of both. Nice retort.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Pompeii69 wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Pompeii69 wrote...

I would whole heartidly reccommend the XBox version, regardless of the capacity of the computer. My PC is more than capable of running this game, three times over, and I opted for the xbox version and haven't regretted my decision in any way...

Why do you recommend the xbox version?  What advantages does it have?

Both versions are good (although they play quite differently) and nobody here has claimed that the Xbox version sucks or anything like that, but I am curious as to why you think it is BETTER.

Because I prefer console games over computers, I prefer my recliner to my desk chair, I prefer my 67 inch hidef TV to my computer monitor... And don't give me any crap about hooking the PC up to the TV, it would require moving all my computer stuff into the living room, which isn't feasible, and then finally because my PC is for other things other than games, specifically movie editing, software development, accounting, etc...

And I'm way more coordinated with a controller over a keyboard and mouse.

I am an old dog set in my ways, and there is no argument one can offer me to change my mind.   prefer the console.

So in other words...there is no reason the xbox version is better, you just like your own setup better.  that s fine and all, but hardly a reason to recommend it to other people, since no two people have PC and xbox setups identical to yours.

[krisd]

Thanks for the responses looks like the answer was pretty obvious.

Direbrute wrote...

krisd wrote...

Is there any incentive to use 20gigs of space on my PC or should I just get it on 360?
Thanks!

You can buy a 1TB drive for around $90 right now... are you really that hard up for disk space?

Good idea I didn't even think of running it on my external. Just didn't want to use up 20g for a game I'm not even sure I'm going to like.

[Arvay5]

PC hands down will always be better than consoles, all consoles are is basically computers under a different name... you can get custom built computers much better than consoles but my point is there is really no difference between computers and consoles but some people just believe there are because they have the strange idea that you can only use a mouse on computers.

[johngaltjr]

krisd wrote...

Is there any incentive to use 20gigs of space on my PC or should I just get it on 360?
Thanks!

Basically, if your graphics card can run recent games, get the PC version.  The ability to zoom out to bird's eye view is worth it, not to mention nicer graphics (enable anisotropic if you haven't already for PC).

But I wouldn't feel bad if I had the 360 version.  It's like with audiophila, you can get some pretty amazing hi-fi equipment and not enjoy the music as much as you did with iBuds.

[bjdbwea]

As said before: Everything a console can do, a PC can as well, and usually better. Want to sit on a couch in front of your big TV screen? PC can do. Use a gamepad? PC can do. Not to speak of the many, many things that only a PC can do. The only argument really could be money. But thankfully the hardware race seems to have slowed down significantly. If you buy a few games a year, you'd already save enough money with the PC version to finance to occasional upgrade.

[DaeFaron]

Yes, the PC is just an awesome powerhorse that outdoes everything in everyway...



Oh wait, not everybody can afford to upgrade their computers to run the lastest games, not everybody has the lastest computers, and some people simple prefer the controller to a mouse-keyboard. First person shooters for me are better on a console. Why? I find the movement and aiming to be easier and more precises.



It's all opinionated.

[EvilIguana966]

DaeFaron wrote...

Yes, the PC is just an awesome powerhorse that outdoes everything in everyway...

Oh wait, not everybody can afford to upgrade their computers to run the lastest games, not everybody has the lastest computers, and some people simple prefer the controller to a mouse-keyboard. First person shooters for me are better on a console. Why? I find the movement and aiming to be easier and more precises.

It's all opinionated.

You don't have to have a top of the line PC to run modern games.  You could spend $500 on a PC and it will run basically everything on high settings.  As long as you aren't a guy who will **** to no end because his machine can't run Crysis with everything set to extreme, ignoring the fact that even on medium it's still by far the best looking game available, you would do juat fine.  A gaming-ready PC really isn't the huge investment people make it out to be.  Just because Alienware will sell you a computer for five grand doesn't mean YOU need to spend that much. 

As for FPS control, the PC is objectively better.  You may enjoy console controls more but that does not make them better.  By your definition of "easier and more precise", a mouse far exceeds an analog stick, which is why a poor player using a mouse will beat the very best player using a controller.  Now if you want to talk platformers, or sports games, or maybe even racing games (excluding the hardcore sims where you basically MUST have a wheel), then you can make a pretty good argument for the controller.  

[DaeFaron]

Again, there isn't proof a pro PC FPS player is way better then a pro console FPS player. So tell me, can I run dragon age on a computer that is mostly from 2000-2002 time frame, with a 3 year old graphics card? Nor can I afford to dish out 500 dollars to upgrade.



About the PC vs xbox Dragon age arguement. I have seen that my xbox 360 playthrough, I did some things PC users are ****ing about I had no trouble.

[MerinTB]

Everyone realizes that an XBOX 360 is just a stripped down, bare bones, built to do a very limited number of jobs, PC, right?



Almost anything a 360 can do, a PC that's been bought from roughly a year before the 360 was released on forward can probably do, if not better.



There are reasons to play on a 360 over a PC (you don't own a PC, the PC is your parents in your living room or something that is not conducive to gaming, and so on)

but removing all the situations that have nothing to do with your personal environment, and just looking the 360 versus a PC with AT LEAST the same graphics and processing power -



the PC wins. Not only do you get mods and quicker patching and such, IT'S CHEAPER - the game itself, that is.



If you have a sweet set-up for your 360 and a crappy one for the PC, or you REALLY dislike using keyboard and mouse and can't get a good controller for your PC, or you REALLY don't like having to install games and just want to drop the disc in and play -

sure, go 360. You'll still have a blast.

[Dolomite808]

DaeFaron wrote...
About the PC vs xbox Dragon age arguement. I have seen that my xbox 360 playthrough, I did some things PC users are ****ing about I had no trouble.

You are missing the point.  IF (and it's an important if) your PC can handle it, then DA:O is a better game on PC.  This does not mean that the console version is bad, it means that, in the right circumstances, the PC version can be better.

Also, the part of your post I quoted is indicative of player skill not hardware/software differences.

Modifié par Dolomite808, 08 décembre 2009 - 10:22 .

[Sam -stone- serious]

DaeFaron wrote...

Yes, the PC is just an awesome powerhorse that outdoes everything in everyway...

Oh wait, not everybody can afford to upgrade their computers to run the lastest games, not everybody has the lastest computers, and some people simple prefer the controller to a mouse-keyboard. First person shooters for me are better on a console. Why? I find the movement and aiming to be easier and more precises.

It's all opinionated.

Setting up a gaming PC  that will be able to run games real well costs as much as a PS3 or an X360 today. If you have money to spare for a console then you sure as hell have money enough to built a good PC gaming rig that easily blows the consoles out of the water while having all the added effects of a PC.

Good GFX card = 100$
Good mobo + CPU + RAMS = 200$
Good 19" or 22"  wide 16:10 monitor = 100$
Other stuff to get things going (speakers, mouse, keyboards) = 100$

Thats 500$ for a PC gaming rig that will put consoles to shame.

[SheffSteel]

DaeFaron wrote...

Again, there isn't proof a pro PC FPS player is way better then a pro console FPS player.

How would you compare the two? You can't run a 360 vs PC deathmatch, because as far as I know, no developer has released a game that allows keyboard&mouse-wielding PC nerds to go head to head with controller-wielding 360 nerds. And that's because the PC players would win, because their controller setup is inherently superior.

So you're right - there's no proof that the player is any better. The system... that's a different matter.

[iounas]

DaeFaron wrote...

Again, there isn't proof a pro PC FPS player is way better then a pro console FPS player. So tell me, can I run dragon age on a computer that is mostly from 2000-2002 time frame, with a 3 year old graphics card? Nor can I afford to dish out 500 dollars to upgrade.

About the PC vs xbox Dragon age arguement. I have seen that my xbox 360 playthrough, I did some things PC users are ****ing about I had no trouble.

Here ia a random pc match
And this is top 10 halo kills
Not same games but observe the pace of the games and what skill is required..

[sarahbau]

Dolomite808 wrote...

You are missing the point.  IF (and it's an important if) your PC can handle it, then DA:O is a better game on PC.  This does not mean that the console version is bad, it means that in the right circumstances the PC version can be better.

Exactly. If the OP had been asking if they should buy an XBox or build a PC to play Dragon Age, then it might make more sense to get the XBox, but I don't think that's what he was asking. It sounds like he has both an XBox and a capable PC, and is asking which version to get. I'm sure many people are in the same situation. I have an XBox, PS3, and a Mac Pro that until DA, rarely booted into Windows. I opted to get the PC version for the same reasons the first responder gave. The biggest two being limited to only a few abilities in the quick cast bar on the consoles, and not being able to use the toolset on the console.

Everyone's opinions on whether it's better to play in the living room or at their desk are irrelevant. Regardless of opinions, the PC version offers more features for $10 less than the console versions. If you have a PC that can play it, the PC version is a better value.

[iounas]

SheffSteel wrote...

DaeFaron wrote...

Again, there isn't proof a pro PC FPS player is way better then a pro console FPS player.

How would you compare the two? You can't run a 360 vs PC deathmatch, because as far as I know, no developer has released a game that allows keyboard&mouse-wielding PC nerds to go head to head with controller-wielding 360 nerds. And that's because the PC players would win, because their controller setup is inherently superior.

So you're right - there's no proof that the player is any better. The system... that's a different matter.

You can easily setup a xbox controller to run on a pc game but no self respecting fps gamer would use that if a keyboard and mouse is available unless its a casual couch gamer

[DaeFaron]

So a gamer who plays FPS on a console has no respect for themselves? As I said its all opinionated, whether a keyboard+mouse is "superior" to a controller.

[Sloth Of Doom]

I love how these threads always devolve into PC vs Console bickering.

[Bob McCabe]

Well, I didn't see anyone else say it (apologies if I missed it) so I will. The one advantage to the 360 version of DA over the PC version is the Xbox Live Achievements. Haha. No, it doesn't make the game-playing experience better -- and that's the root of this thread -- but it is still an advantage for those silly "collectors" out there (like me) who care.

As for my choice, I would have been hard-pressed to make a decision but ultimately would have bought DA for the PC. Then, a few weeks before the game came out, my PC died; that made my decision for me. So I'll grab all the Achievements for the Xbox version now, and then in some months when I buy a new PC I'll get that version of DA (hopefully with all the extra content bundled) and witness all the improvements first hand.

Modifié par Bob McCabe, 09 décembre 2009 - 01:03 .

[Kyogen]

I play DA:O on a 360 right now because I don't have a pc that can handle the game. It's fine, though I would prefer a keyboard+mouse.

OP, if your pc can't handle it, you will still have fun on the 360.

[The-Cyber-Dave]

I don't play PC games anymore. I got DA:O for 360. It is a blast to play on the system. If you don't have a PC set up for modern gaming, and you own a 360, get it for 360. You should have a great time.

[Merwanor]

No question, PC all the way. And the most important factor is community mods. Some are just essential.

[Merwanor]

There is no question to this, if you can choose between the two, choose the PC version. Come on it got community mods. Much better graphics, and that is without some amazing community texture work. Better controls, basically just better in every way.

[Dex1701]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

I love how these threads always devolve into PC vs Console bickering.

Of course they do.  There's always someone that gets insecure or puts on airs and...there it goes.  Bottom line: the PC is a more versatile and powerful machine than the console is, but there are plenty of perfectly legit reasons to prefer a console.  I enjoy both.  I have a desktop for work and games I like to use a mouse for (FPS, RTS, most RPGs, etc.) and in my living room I have a multimedia/gaming PC and several consoles.  It's all good.

DaeFaron wrote...

So a gamer who plays FPS on a console
has no respect for themselves? As I said its all opinionated, whether a
keyboard+mouse is "superior" to a controller.

As someone that feels really comfortable with both I have to say that I feel crippled when I play an FPS with a controller.  It's not just aiming (no competition here...mouse is over 9000% more efficient for aiming...thank the lawd for auto-aim with controllers).  Let's say I'm running for cover and need to look behind me.  With a mouse I can flick my wrist, see my entire environment in a fraction of a second, then flick my wrist again and be focused on what's in front of me again.  With a controller I have to wait for my field of view to move with linear accelleration to where I want to look, and then I have to-- oops, I'm dead.    Don't get me wrong, FPS games are fun with a controller too, but I think the mouse allows for overall more efficient control.  Most "professional" FPS tournaments are run on PCs, and given a choice I've never heard of a pro FPS player choose a controller over a mouse.

In a game like DA:O I definitely choose the PC version, not only because I like to play with the mods/toolset, but given the strategic nature of the combat I'd go nuts if I couldn't point and click. 

Modifié par Dex1701, 09 décembre 2009 - 01:35 .

[whtnyte-raernst]

With hard drive selling at 20cents per gig, your worried about sacrificing 20gigs of space?