I was just thinking about this recently and really the concept of giant machines that live in dark space periodically rapeing organic civilization is something that you only see in Mass Effect.
Maybe I'm just blind and don't know what I'm talking about, but I haven't see that concept/idea used by any other franchise or ip.
I was just curious as to wheather the concept was used by any other writers, or developers or what have you.
The Concept of Giant Machines from Outer Space!
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 01:24
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The location may be different but the theme is not.
The matrix featured giant machines that harvested humans.... They just needed then alive for them to be useful.
War of the worlds featured giant machines (albeit piloted) that harvested humans.
The reapers could have and should have been so much more.
The matrix featured giant machines that harvested humans.... They just needed then alive for them to be useful.
War of the worlds featured giant machines (albeit piloted) that harvested humans.
The reapers could have and should have been so much more.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 01:27
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Suddenly, Shivans! Thousands of them!
They are not machines, but fits the advanced race culling and unknown dwelling place criteria.
They are not machines, but fits the advanced race culling and unknown dwelling place criteria.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 01:30
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samurai crusade wrote...
The location may be different but the theme is not.
The matrix featured giant machines that harvested humans.... They just needed then alive for them to be useful.
War of the worlds featured giant machines (albeit piloted) that harvested humans.
The reapers could have and should have been so much more.
Like?
Anyway, Sovreign's dialogue sends all those machines back to robot hell.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 02:01
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Khayness wrote...
Suddenly, Shivans! Thousands of them!
They are not machines, but fits the advanced race culling and unknown dwelling place criteria.
This. He's talking about Descent: Freespace if you don't catch it.
And of course HP Lovecraft.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 02:09
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The mission in the derelict reaper was definitely lovecraftian, especially that log you can watch right after the first scion.Arkitekt wrote...
And of course HP Lovecraft.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 02:16
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From the Trailers leading up to ME3, there was countless correlations between the Reapers and the Borg. You know the whole hybrid machines that abduct humans to add to the collective, making a beeline for Earth with resistence being futile....
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 02:29
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Like thy could have serve as nations against dark space.simfamSP wrote...
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The reapers could have and should have been so much more.
Like?
Anyway, Sovreign's dialogue sends all those machines back to robot hell.
Could have harvested us simply because organic life is chaos.
They could have once been an organic race that sought to overthrow an oppressive regime and uploaded themselves onto a dreadnought.... Only to become corrupted by that power.
The could have been from other galaxies spreading life across the known universe at te expense of civilizations.
Anything but... The eraser on a giant magnadoodle
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 02:57
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Hum... I believe this concept is similar to that of Transformers, specially Beast Machines. Actually, one of Mass Effect 3's endings is almost a carbon copy of Beast Machines ending.
In Beast Machines, organic life is frowned upon by Cybertron's (the Transformers planet) dictator, so he orders a purge of all the organics. He arguments that organics and synthetics can't possibly coexist, and that the existence of free will is what causes all the conflicts in the world.
The dictator (Megatron) himself is a partly synthetic and partly organic machine just like the reapers, and also, just like them, often indoctrinates selected victims to act as his agents.
Not only that, it is implied during the series that somehow this isn't the first organic purge in Cybertron, since it is dicovered that, contrary to popular belief, the planet was once habitated by organics.
Now, a team assembled by the Axalon Commander Optimus Primal (do I see a pattern here?) must fight against all odds to prevent the organic purge.
In Beast Machines, organic life is frowned upon by Cybertron's (the Transformers planet) dictator, so he orders a purge of all the organics. He arguments that organics and synthetics can't possibly coexist, and that the existence of free will is what causes all the conflicts in the world.
The dictator (Megatron) himself is a partly synthetic and partly organic machine just like the reapers, and also, just like them, often indoctrinates selected victims to act as his agents.
Not only that, it is implied during the series that somehow this isn't the first organic purge in Cybertron, since it is dicovered that, contrary to popular belief, the planet was once habitated by organics.
Now, a team assembled by the Axalon Commander Optimus Primal (do I see a pattern here?) must fight against all odds to prevent the organic purge.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 04:49
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Mass effect is deriative work of a lot SF, except the homocidal robots, Mass Effect draw heavily from the game Star Control. The reapers sounds very similar to the Ur-quan. The Eternals ones cyclic reaping of the galaxy is pretty straight from there too. It seems that Bioware pretty combined them and spiced the up with the borg.
You also have the same theme in Stargate atlantis with the Wraiths harvesting the galaxy of sentient life in cycles of thousands of years. Funnily enough it even has a main character called John Sheppard. I guess it was an homage on bioware's part.
You also have the same theme in Stargate atlantis with the Wraiths harvesting the galaxy of sentient life in cycles of thousands of years. Funnily enough it even has a main character called John Sheppard. I guess it was an homage on bioware's part.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 05:07
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This idea's been kicking around forever. Frederik Pohl's Assassins (from the Heechee novels -- Gateway et seq.) are pretty damn close to the Reapers, except that they're far more advanced. Pohl's plot actually turns out to be fairly close to the rejected ME "dark energy" theme.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 07:54
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Alistair Reynold's Revelation Space trilogy of books has the Inhibitors..artificial life that periodically
destroys organic civilizations that reach a certain technology point.
Interestingly in that series the best ending may be the synthesis one..perhaps this influenced
a Mass Effect writer (the series is by a UK writer)
destroys organic civilizations that reach a certain technology point.
Interestingly in that series the best ending may be the synthesis one..perhaps this influenced
a Mass Effect writer (the series is by a UK writer)
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 08:23
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Nyoka wrote...
The mission in the derelict reaper was definitely lovecraftian, especially that log you can watch right after the first scion.Arkitekt wrote...
And of course HP Lovecraft.
That's what I loved about the Reapers. They had this amazing, terrifying cosmic-horror vibe that was incredible. I still get chills listening to Soverign on Virmire.
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 09:40
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AlanC9 wrote...
This idea's been kicking around forever. Frederik Pohl's Assassins (from the Heechee novels -- Gateway et seq.) are pretty damn close to the Reapers, except that they're far more advanced. Pohl's plot actually turns out to be fairly close to the rejected ME "dark energy" theme.
This; I distinclty remember that not only is the enemy in Pohl's novels ultimately very, very similar to the Reapers, but there is the same repulsive quality to the morally blinkered ending of the saga.
