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[NOD-INFORMER37]

I cant wait for Bioshock: Infinite.

One of the only(if not THE only) games coming out this year with a pure SP experience, without any MP b.s dragging it down.

[Krogangreetings]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

I cant wait for Bioshock: Infinite.

One of the only(if not THE only) games coming out this year with a pure SP experience, without any MP b.s dragging it down.

Lollipop chainsaw for me! Well that as well as The Walking Dead (stupid episodic games) and the last DLC for Batman Arkham City

[Krogangreetings]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

I cant wait for Bioshock: Infinite.

One of the only(if not THE only) games coming out this year with a pure SP experience, without any MP b.s dragging it down.

ummmmmm   http://kotaku.com/59...ing-multiplayer

[coolbeans]

Krogangreetings wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

I cant wait for Bioshock: Infinite.

One of the only(if not THE only) games coming out this year with a pure SP experience, without any MP b.s dragging it down.

ummmmmm   http://kotaku.com/59...ing-multiplayer

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

[Drogonion]

Kaelef wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

I don't understand all the consternation about not being able to get "the best ending". Literally the only difference between the non-MP best ending and the MP best ending is a couple of seconds suggesting that Shep somehow survived the massive explosion of the Citadel. That's it. People have speculated that possibility even without seeing those few, precious seconds.

There are so many other things you can complain about... This really strikes me as a non-issue.

I dunno. Whether or not the main character lives seems pretty important to me. I don't think red is the best ending --- genocide isn't my cup of tea -- but if I picked it and had maxed EMS I damn well would want to get the best version of that ending.

The Citadel explosion doesn't seem to be all that hard to live through, actually. It's not like the arms are disintegrated or anything.

The non-MP ending simply leaves Shep's survival as more of an open question than the MP ending does.  If you're willing to believe the Citadel's explosion was survivable, then there's no reason you shouldn't believe Shep survived without seeing those last few seconds.

I could understand if one ending showed him/her walking out of the Normandy and high-fiving EDI or toasting to victory with Anderson or some such, but you just get more hope that s/he survived.  That's it.  Everything else about the ending is exactly the same.

So... we obviously feel differently about the importance of those added few seconds.

^This.

The blip that apparently shows Shepard's chest heaving under rubble for a split-second is actually kind of insulting in context.  I finished the game before playing the MP and did not get the "best" ending.  Then I played the MP and jacked up my war assets to 100% thus making the "best" ending available to me.  But honestly the "best" ending is still such crap that I have lost all desire to play through any of the SP again.  

I found the MP quite fun though.

Modifié par Drogonion, 10 mai 2012 - 02:07 .

[Landon7001]

CmndrFisher wrote...

7isMagic wrote...

Here we are, another thread on this issue. A similar thread was locked down this afternoon (BIOWARE?? Y U NO FIX GALACTIC READINESS AND EMS????).

Thread after thread. Lockdown after lockdown. Two months (and one day) since the game's release, this issue continues to be raised in this forum - and for good reason.

People want an answer. And they deserve it, given the hard-earned money they've spent and the 100 plus hours they've invested in the trilogy.

Independent of how one feels about SP/MP and how they do or don't affect one another or the ending, the fact remains this game was marketed as a single-player experience SUPPLEMENTED with other modes of play.

It's bad enough being "left out in the cold," as the OP stated, it's worse when Bioware refuses to address this issue in an official manner.

^ Yep. You said it well. 

Bottom line?  Us single players were fed a line of BS all along, and Bioware has done nothing to address this issue.  OK we get lockdowns of the other threads with the Mods telling us they are looking into it..for two months now.  Lipservice at best I say.

And it's just not the EMS thing.  How come the multiplayers get weapons that are unavailable to single players?  How come multiplayers are getting all these special weekends and other items while single players are getting nothing? It's shameful on Bioware's part and regrettable that an otherwise stellar franchise has been sullied by this kind of crap.

A MEN

[animadpig]

Bioware dose not care the single player anymore. After I finished ME3 first time, I return it to Amazon and get full refund. Now, I believe that I did right choice. And, I gonna use the refund to buy Diablo 3.

[AlanC9]

Wait. SP players need more weapons? The game's too damn easy as it is.

[stabbykitteh]

Couple points: You can get the "breathe" ending on a new game +. No MP required. There was content in ME1 that was hard to get without new game + as well, not a new concept for ME.

And, SP is getting no new content right now because everything has been delayed for the Extended Cut. Still in the works but delayed. Not sure how their making free content to appease singleplayer fans = not caring about the single player...

Modifié par Flummox, 10 mai 2012 - 03:41 .

[sparkyo42]

Vormaerin wrote...

coolbeans wrote...

So your ok with games developers lying to you? How much content needs to be locked before its an issue for you? 

Something that actually matters?  A brief, unexplained, ambiguous cutscene does not qualify as content in my eyes. 

If I couldn't do certain missions or there was a clearly better set of results, like a fourth choice, then I might think they were misleading me.

Though, even then, the quote said you don't need to do multiplayer.  Which is still true.  There are non multiplayer based alternatives available.  Not that that counts in your eyes, I'm sure.

Sorry if there's already a reply but sure there are alternatives. My favourite is gibbed editing (with a side helping of two fingers to the everyone involved in this mess). but for the iphone crap I have an older iphone that can't run the pos apps. whats your suggestion?

[RocketManSR2]

Flummox wrote...

Couple points: You can get the "breathe" ending on a new game +. No MP required. There was content in ME1 that was hard to get without new game + as well, not a new concept for ME.

And, SP is getting no new content right now because everything has been delayed for the Extended Cut. Still in the works but delayed. Not sure how their making free content to appease singleplayer fans = not caring about the single player...

Have you done that personally? Also, if it was really that damn simple, why all the locked topics and silence from BioWare? Why not have a dev or Chris post a sticky or something saying that you'll need NG+ to get that moment in SP followed by proof? I would have just said "Oh, okay, NG+ here I come" and made that my canon playthrough. All we got was over a month of "looking into it."

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 10 mai 2012 - 05:15 .

[10K]

I'm sorry but IMO MP is the better part of the game. SP is so dull and has 0 replayablity.

[rwilli80]

Michale_Jackson wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

If the Extended Cut expands on Shepard's breathing scene and if it still requires you to play multi-player to get it, then I'd be mad. Otherwise, it's just a three-second cutscene that we're not really sure it's canon or not. After all, Shepard's journey is supposed to be done with Mass Effect 3.

or so they say. 

Stars Wars was suppose to be done after the first, then 3 years later what you saw in 1977 was renamed Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope.

That's not a very good analogy because all of those Star Wars scripts were written at the same time, its just that the studio liked it from four on and not from the beginning. If Star Wars 1 the Phantom Menace had hit theaters in 77 then there wouldn't be a Star Wars because that would have been the only one made and it would have bombed.

[RocketManSR2]

mosesarose wrote...

I'm sorry but IMO MP is the better part of the game. SP is so dull and has 0 replayablity.

0/10

[AlanC9]

Flummox wrote...

Couple points: You can get the "breathe" ending on a new game +. No MP required. There was content in ME1 that was hard to get without new game + as well, not a new concept for ME.

You sure? Nobody's been able to document any more War Asset points being received when you do NG+.

[stabbykitteh]

AlanC9 wrote...

Flummox wrote...

Couple points: You can get the "breathe" ending on a new game +. No MP required. There was content in ME1 that was hard to get without new game + as well, not a new concept for ME.

You sure? Nobody's been able to document any more War Asset points being received when you do NG+.

OK. Upon further review I'm actually not or at least I can't prove it. I did a new game + after the first playthrough and before I started MP and I'm pretty sure I got that ending, however I have played a bunch of MP since then and promoted a few characters so I really can't test it. My bad. Perhaps confusing that with Illusive Man shooting himself. It's been a crap week, apologies all around.

2nd point still stands though, free (expensive to produce if the voiceover stuff is for EC) content does not equal not caring. It's quite possible that some of the delayed content provides more EMS as well.

Modifié par Flummox, 10 mai 2012 - 06:05 .

[M_Kirkwall]

Just get the Gibbed save editor and don't bother with MP.

[MonkeyLungs]

Kaelef wrote...

I don't understand all the consternation about not being able to get "the best ending". Literally the only difference between the non-MP best ending and the MP best ending is a couple of seconds suggesting that Shep somehow survived the massive explosion of the Citadel. That's it. People have speculated that possibility even without seeing those few, precious seconds.

There are so many other things you can complain about... This really strikes me as a non-issue.

And you can get that ending without playing multiplayer. I did, on two separate playthroughs, before I ever touched multiplayer.

[Andromidius]

Single player doesn't make Bioware as much money. Why? Because Multiplayer means people keep buying equipment packs.

Joke being, its random loot and its for a shallow horde mode game. I really don't get the appeal. But people keep giving them money, so why would they care about the roleplayers?

[MonkeyLungs]

Flummox wrote...

Couple points: You can get the "breathe" ending on a new game +. No MP required. There was content in ME1 that was hard to get without new game + as well, not a new concept for ME.

And, SP is getting no new content right now because everything has been delayed for the Extended Cut. Still in the works but delayed. Not sure how their making free content to appease singleplayer fans = not caring about the single player...

You don't need NewGame+. I did it twice on two separate playthroughs. I didn't even play MP until I had played as both man shep and fem shep.

Both of my saves were imports spanning ME1 - to ME 2. Even the Bring Down the Sky DLC for ME1 can influence your war assets in ME3. I'm guessing having an import that spans all three games is crucial.

[AlanC9]

You got your saves handy, MonkeyLungs? Even with all DLC, there don't seem to be 8000 WA points in the game, and the "breathe" ending needs 4000 EMS.

[MonkeyLungs]

AlanC9 wrote...

You got your saves handy, MonkeyLungs? Even with all DLC, there don't seem to be 8000 WA points in the game, and the "breathe" ending needs 4000 EMS.

I am going to go and load up my saves and take a look at what the total MS is and subtract anything related to N7 and divide it by 2 and be right back.

[b09boy]

Andromidius wrote...

Single player doesn't make Bioware as much money. Why? Because Multiplayer means people keep buying equipment packs.

Joke being, its random loot and its for a shallow horde mode game. I really don't get the appeal. But people keep giving them money, so why would they care about the roleplayers?

I think the appeal is honestly the grind, sort of similar to how MMOs like to hook players early.  If they allowed people to spec everything out how they pleased, from skills to equipment, I doubt people would still be playing.

Personally, I don't find much fun in it.  It's the same enemies as in SP, same locations as well, and they got boring by the 1/3 mark of the game due to how repetitive constantly throwing the same enemies at you actually is.  It's not like some interesting objective-based multiplayer where you move through a level doing unique things.  It's the same fights you got during SP, only with real people and, frankly, multiplayer communities do not typically consist of fun people barring dedicated clans and hardcore communities (such as what you might find in, say, Space Station 13).

[b09boy]

MonkeyLungs wrote...
You don't need NewGame+. I did it twice on two separate playthroughs. I didn't even play MP until I had played as both man shep and fem shep.

All this does is mark you as a liar or a person spouting half truths.  This is impossible without modding your saves or the iphone app.

[MonkeyLungs]

b09boy wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...
You don't need NewGame+. I did it twice on two separate playthroughs. I didn't even play MP until I had played as both man shep and fem shep.

All this does is mark you as a liar or a person spouting half truths.  This is impossible without modding your saves or the iphone app.

My Total Military Strength is 9378 - 2325 (For N7 squads) / 2 (for the EMS score to account for only 50% readiness) = 3526.5. I played the game twice before ever playing MP. I didn't load up my femshep save to see what her TMS was but it is probably really close, I have a few different choices for her playthrough.

If this so called 'best' ending is the one where you see Shepard take a breath in some rubble then I saw that twice, prior to playing MP. I blew the reapers up both times because I hate those ****'ers.

I don't have an Iphone or an IPad and I don't have Facebook or any other tie in to the game.