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[natalZ]

So,  with some free time and nothing to do, i decided to read again some reviews about ME3.  But then comes the surprise, where are the bad reviews? I mean, the game is somehow good if you put aside the journal, plot holes and the ending and some other blablablastuff, but a lot of users gave the game bad reviews and that made the overall score reach the bottom.

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IGN user´s review: 9.8
Gamezone user´s review: 3.8/5
Gamespot: 8.6


The only site that apparently "didn´t change" the score was metacritic with 3.8/10.

They changed how they compute user´s reviews or EA´s space magic is spreading? Also could be some other strong force...

[FOZ289]

"I liekd teh game but bad ending 2/10"

Basically.

There are numerous reasons you can criticize the game, but none of them really justify a 3/10, because the game is still completely functional and as far as gameplay goes, pretty polished. People are just trying to get back at the developer and/ or publisher, which happens with practically every big game now. You should have seen the Portal 2 reviews when people saw it had cosmetic dlc.

As opinionated as "professional" reviews are, the game just isn't as much of a mess as people want to believe it is.  At least not to warrent a score as low as 3/10.

Modifié par FOZ289, 07 mai 2012 - 04:10 .

[Elite Midget]

You really believe IGN and Gamespot are trustworthy on this regard? They proved where their loyalties lay, it isn't farfetched they may change and remove things on their own site which they have all the power to do if they so as see fit. Besides, we all know how IGN in particular thinks of ME3 Fans atm.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 07 mai 2012 - 04:11 .

[N7L4D]

FOZ289 wrote...

"I liekd teh game but bad ending 2/10"

Basically.

There are numerous reasons you can criticize the game, but none of them really justify a 3/10, because the game is still completely functional and as far as gameplay goes, pretty polished. People are just trying to get back at the developer and/ or publisher, which happens with practically every big game now. You should have seen the Portal 2 reviews when people saw it had cosmetic dlc.

As opinionated as "professional" reviews are, the game just isn't as much of a mess as people want to believe it is.  At least not to warrent a score as low as 3/10.

 

Thank you sir 

[MrPuschel]

I don't know gamespot but IGN is just the industrys ****. Of course they will "normalize" theyr reviews for they commercial customers.

[Laurencio]

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

Modifié par Laurencio, 07 mai 2012 - 04:38 .

[Eain]

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Majority of professional reviews are a joke too, so as far as I'm concerned just can everything gaming journalism related and let people make up their own mind.

Currently game reviewers are hardly anything more than an extension of the hype machine. Least credible profession in the world. Say IGN goes bankrupt. What can Colin Moriarty do? Not bloody much, that's for sure.

[AlexPorto111]

FOZ289 wrote...

"I liekd teh game but bad ending 2/10"

Basically.

There are numerous reasons you can criticize the game, but none of them really justify a 3/10, because the game is still completely functional and as far as gameplay goes, pretty polished. People are just trying to get back at the developer and/ or publisher, which happens with practically every big game now. You should have seen the Portal 2 reviews when people saw it had cosmetic dlc.

As opinionated as "professional" reviews are, the game just isn't as much of a mess as people want to believe it is.  At least not to warrent a score as low as 3/10.

This.I know that a LOT of people that played the game loved ME3,but hated the ending,then in their review they gave 2/10 or 3/10.That is impossible basically,becuase if you loved a game then the ending sucks,the score would be at least a 8/10.And dont forget that most of the low scores on metacritic are trolls.

[Drogonion]

3.8/10 is a perfectly FAIR review score if the ending repulsed you. If the 90% of the game prior to the ending was a 10/10, but the ending was not only bad but repulsive, a 3.8 is perfectly justified - especially when the ending as a narrative destroys the replayability of the entire franchise for you.

Sorry, but you need to get a clue: 3.8 is merely a reflection of how important the finale plays in a narrative-driven trilogy; there is nothing wrong or unfair about it.

For the record, I gave ME3 a 5/10....because of the ending.

Modifié par Drogonion, 07 mai 2012 - 04:35 .

[ArchDuck]

I personally would peg it on the 5-7/10 range (if rating it as a stand alone game). Anything higher is as absurd as anything lower really. Both are not defensible unless you are ignoring the good or ignoring the bad.

If you are viewing it in light of the series as a whole, then the rating can only go lower.


Edit: Personally I would give it a 6/10 as a standalone and a 4/10 in view of how it drags down the series (and IP) as a whole.

Modifié par ArchDuck, 07 mai 2012 - 04:40 .

[Eain]

ArchDuck wrote...

I personally would peg it on the 5-7/10 range. Anything higher is as absurd as anything lower really. Both are not defensible unless you are ignoring the good or ignoring the bad.

This.

Actually if I'd have to rate it for parts it would look like this:

Story: 5/10 (maybe 4 on an angry day).
Production value: 6/10. Lots of corners have been cut, and it shows. The game is rushed.
Gameplay: 8/10. Good TPS gameplay but not as good as Gears, which I rate one point higher.
Multiplayer: 8/10. Very entertaining, but needs a versus mode to keep things exciting. With a versus mode, arguably the most fun you could have online right now.

[arial]

professional reviewers dont give a bad review to a game because of 5 minutes of content thats not as good as it could be.

"Its about the Journey, not the destination"

[Laurencio]

Eain wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Majority of professional reviews are a joke too, so as far as I'm concerned just can everything gaming journalism related and let people make up their own mind.

Currently game reviewers are hardly anything more than an extension of the hype machine. Least credible profession in the world. Say IGN goes bankrupt. What can Colin Moriarty do? Not bloody much, that's for sure.

Yes they are, but at least they stay somewhat on point. In no way is Mass Effect a 0/10 game, that's utterly retarded.

[ArchDuck]

Laurencio wrote...

Yes they are, but at least they stay somewhat on point. In no way is Mass Effect a 0/10 game, that's utterly retarded.

True enough. It is no 0/10 anymore then it is a 10/10.

[Laurencio]

ArchDuck wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

Yes they are, but at least they stay somewhat on point. In no way is Mass Effect a 0/10 game, that's utterly retarded.

True enough. It is no 0/10 anymore then it is a 10/10.

It's far closer to 10/10 (although that score is incredibly overused these days) than it is a 0/10.

[DiebytheSword]

ME3 was not 3 material. This is the same crap as DA2. DA2 had technical, story and game design flaws that ruined what could have been a great game. Did it fail on all counts, E.T. for the Atari 2600 style? Hell no.

I gave DAII a well deserved 6 for what should have been an 8.

I give ME3 a 7.5 for what should have been a 9.5/10.

[Mad-Hamlet]

The game is centered around the story which is a pretty big shift from most where the story is centered around the game.

As Bioware decided to shaft the story in the end, that violation is palpable and the reaction unsurprising. Or does anyone think Star Wars ending with a 1950's musical dance number while a Nun steals battery cables from the ****'s cars and a six foot invisible bunny named Harvey makes tea would not justify a savaging both from commercial reviews and personal?

The clusterfrakkery of the last ten minutes has cost Bioware dearly. They shafted the story, now they get to take one for the team.

[Laurencio]

Mad-Hamlet wrote...

The game is centered around the story which is a pretty big shift from most where the story is centered around the game.

As Bioware decided to shaft the story in the end, that violation is palpable and the reaction unsurprising. Or does anyone think Star Wars ending with a 1950's musical dance number while a Nun steals battery cables from the ****'s cars and a six foot invisible bunny named Harvey makes tea would not justify a savaging both from commercial reviews and personal?

The clusterfrakkery of the last ten minutes has cost Bioware dearly. They shafted the story, now they get to take one for the team.

Except that's not even remotely close to what happened?

Seriously, I've been going over Metacritic reviews and even the 0/10 reviews mostly admit the game was "average". How is 0/10 average?!

500 0/10 ratings, and 900 ratings well below the mark of "average". That's not remotely realistic. So disregard those, and disregard the 230 "superb" ratings. you are left with a score of 7/10.

Modifié par Laurencio, 07 mai 2012 - 04:51 .

[TreguardD]

Because they were left with a bad impression.

Then they wrote a review.

Hint: Don't DO that.

[Zix13]

FOZ289 wrote...

"I liekd teh game but bad ending 2/10"

Basically.

There are numerous reasons you can criticize the game, but none of them really justify a 3/10, because the game is still completely functional and as far as gameplay goes, pretty polished. People are just trying to get back at the developer and/ or publisher, which happens with practically every big game now. You should have seen the Portal 2 reviews when people saw it had cosmetic dlc.

As opinionated as "professional" reviews are, the game just isn't as much of a mess as people want to believe it is.  At least not to warrent a score as low as 3/10.

There were a lot of things wrong with the game. It deserved a 5/10, because, despite the polish, it was rushed, lazy, short, only had a couple real sidequests, and of course the last few missions/ending were just bad. The fact that it ruined an excellent series would make we want to rate it lower than that. 

[balance5050]

Indeed, gut reactions and "group think" are rarely a good idea.

[savionen]

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

Modifié par savionen, 07 mai 2012 - 04:54 .

[Persephone]

Zix13 wrote...

There were a lot of things wrong with the game. It deserved a 5/10, because, despite the polish, it was rushed, lazy, short, only had a couple real sidequests, and of course the last few missions/ending were just bad. The fact that it ruined an excellent series would make we want to rate it lower than that. 

Contradictions, outright lies AND opinions turned into "facts"?

Yeah, user reviews are useless indeed.

[Zix13]

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

You do realize, some of those are reasonable. I'd rate my fridge 0/10 if it didn't cool my food. If ME3 doesn't take my choices into account, which was kinda the point, it's not hard to argue a 0/10 rating for that reason.

[Persephone]

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So extremes balance out extremes....uh huh

Maybe it "wrecked" it for you....ah, whatever.

Review bombing. Actively damaging sales. Yes, THAT will SAVE the franchise. Sure worked on DAII. Wait, the expansion for that was scrapped. Yeah, great strategy!