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[leeboi2]

Because they're all quite frankly, stupid.

[savionen]

Persephone wrote...

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So extremes balance out extremes....uh huh

Maybe it "wrecked" it for you....ah, whatever.

Review bombing. Actively damaging sales. Yes, THAT will SAVE the franchise. Sure worked on DAII. Wait, the expansion for that was scrapped. Yeah, great strategy!

I'm not review bombing, I'm explaining why they're doing it. They may also believe the game deserves a 0. I wouldn't give ME3 higher than a 6 or 7 including the ending. Excluding the ending I still thought the last 1/3 of the game was pretty bad, mix that with all the fetch quests, auto-dialogue and lack of choices, etc. Lip syncing is pretty bad in ME3, also.

I really doubt they would have made an Extended Cut if people didn't **** about the original ending.

Modifié par savionen, 07 mai 2012 - 05:01 .

[Persephone]

Zix13 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

You do realize, some of those are reasonable. I'd rate my fridge 0/10 if it didn't cool my food. If ME3 doesn't take my choices into account, which was kinda the point, it's not hard to argue a 0/10 rating for that reason.

And you do realize than nothing of this nonsensical trash refers to choices? And I have yet to see a game that takes previous choices into account as much as ME3 did.

And that pieces of entertainment are not the same as a fridge or a car?

[Zix13]

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

There were a lot of things wrong with the game. It deserved a 5/10, because, despite the polish, it was rushed, lazy, short, only had a couple real sidequests, and of course the last few missions/ending were just bad. The fact that it ruined an excellent series would make we want to rate it lower than that. 

Contradictions, outright lies AND opinions turned into "facts"?

Yeah, user reviews are useless indeed.

By polish I meant the already complete engine and the already hired VA's. The resources put towards those aspects are there. The content is not. Please, count the sidequests. I remember.......... three? Monastery, Cerberus defectors, and Grissom. I think I'm missing one, but I can't remember what it is.  You do realize that to most here, it did destroy a lot of the fun of the ME games. Obviously it's something that should impact your review if it's your opinion. 

[Kunari801]

ArchDuck wrote...

I personally would peg it on the 5-7/10 range (if rating it as a stand alone game). Anything higher is as absurd as anything lower really. Both are not defensible unless you are ignoring the good or ignoring the bad.

If you are viewing it in light of the series as a whole, then the rating can only go lower.

Edit: Personally I would give it a 6/10 as a standalone and a 4/10 in view of how it drags down the series (and IP) as a whole. 

Ah, well said Mr Duck!   I agree with your raiting, it does tarnish the whole of Mass Effect and ruined my desire to play any of the three games for almost a month!   

[Deltateam Elcor]

When you ruin 100 hours of fun, joy and excitement, low scores are going to happen.

However at least one thing can come out of this, people noticing that game journalism is immature and full of mindless drones, which is a dire shame considering what journalism is supposed to stand for.

[Persephone]

savionen wrote...

Persephone wrote...

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So extremes balance out extremes....uh huh

Maybe it "wrecked" it for you....ah, whatever.

Review bombing. Actively damaging sales. Yes, THAT will SAVE the franchise. Sure worked on DAII. Wait, the expansion for that was scrapped. Yeah, great strategy!

I'm not review bombing, I'm explaining why they're doing it. They may also believe the game deserves a 0. I wouldn't give ME3 higher than a 6 or 7 including the ending. Excluding the ending I still thought the last 1/3 of the game was pretty bad, mix that with all the fetch quests, auto-dialogue and lack of choices, etc.

I really doubt they would have made an Extended Cut if people didn't **** about the original ending.

i wasn't referring to you but to those who DO review bomb this and other games.

RPGs have always had Fetch Quests. ME always did. There were PLENTY of choices. Rannoch featured several to name but ONE mission. Auto-Dialogue what? No more than before. Less investigate options...yes, the time to investigate is OVER at that point.

[Laurencio]

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s won't averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So giving out 0s which is completely dishonest and unwarranted is better than being honest and constructive? User reviews are seperate from critic reviews, they don't mix them together for an average score. Seeing the critic rating 90, and the user rating read 38 lends no credence to the system, and harms the reputation of the user review system.

The lack of honesty and constructive arguments and scores in a user review section taints the credibility of a system meant to help user advice other users without the burden of commercial interests. Instead it's being used as a weapon for a group of consumer's commercial interests, it's a very stupid move.

Modifié par Laurencio, 07 mai 2012 - 05:05 .

[Zix13]

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

You do realize, some of those are reasonable. I'd rate my fridge 0/10 if it didn't cool my food. If ME3 doesn't take my choices into account, which was kinda the point, it's not hard to argue a 0/10 rating for that reason.

And you do realize than nothing of this nonsensical trash refers to choices? And I have yet to see a game that takes previous choices into account as much as ME3 did.

And that pieces of entertainment are not the same as a fridge or a car?

Actually, some do directly, some a little more indirectly, I suggest you try reading it next time.

Regardless of what the product is, I expect it to be what it's sold to me as. If I'm told that there will be no ABC ending, I will damn well expect that there won't be an ABC ending. Would you be happy if the car you bought because it was advertised as 4 wheel drive was actually front wheel drive? 0/10. 

[Persephone]

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

When you ruin 100 hours of fun, joy and excitement, low scores are going to happen.

However at least one thing can come out of this, people noticing that game journalism is immature and full of mindless drones, which is a dire shame considering what journalism is supposed to stand for.

The fanbase is an EXAMPLE of maturity and reflection though.

Wait, nope. They are anything BUT that.

Professional reviewers aren't self-absorbed extremists at least....

[MadRabbit999]

Zix13 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

You do realize, some of those are reasonable. I'd rate my fridge 0/10 if it didn't cool my food. If ME3 doesn't take my choices into account, which was kinda the point, it's not hard to argue a 0/10 rating for that reason.

You do realize that is pure nonsense?

You do NOT rate 0/10 something that works for the 95% of the times.. that is just plain stupid...

My Ferrari goes up to +300kmph the pain job is amazing the seats of pure leather, perfect friction with the road, everything about driving is perfect... but the cup holder is slightly smaller than my personal cup that I fit in so I cannot carry drinks in it.. so I rate this car 0/10.....    huh O.o?

I mean, without offense to the disabled, because actually they have more brain than the retards that write such things...

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 07 mai 2012 - 05:07 .

[savionen]

Persephone wrote...

i wasn't referring to you but to those who DO review bomb this and other games.

RPGs have always had Fetch Quests. ME always did. There were PLENTY of choices. Rannoch featured several to name but ONE mission. Auto-Dialogue what? No more than before. Less investigate options...yes, the time to investigate is OVER at that point.

There's barely any dialogue options in ME3. How many Renegade/Paragon trigger moments are there? There's next to no point in even having a Paragon/Renegade system in ME3.

[Persephone]

Zix13 wrote...

Actually, some do directly, some a little more indirectly, I suggest you try reading it next time.

Regardless of what the product is, I expect it to be what it's sold to me as. If I'm told that there will be no ABC ending, I will damn well expect that there won't be an ABC ending. Would you be happy if the car you bought because it was advertised as 4 wheel drive was actually front wheel drive? 0/10. 

Show me the AD saying that about the endings. There isn't one? What, an INTERVIEW? Yeah, no legal basis.

And again, a piece of entertainment is not like a car.

And ME3 does not deserve a 0. You've never played a broken game, have you?

[savionen]

Laurencio wrote...

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s won't averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So giving out 0s which is completely dishonest and unwarranted is better than being honest and constructive? User reviews are seperate from critic reviews, they don't mix them together for an average score. Seeing the critic rating 90, and the user rating read 38 lends no credence to the system, and harms the reputation of the user review system.

The lack of honesty and constructive arguments and scores in a user review section taints the credibility of a system meant to help user advice other users without the burden of commercial interests. Instead it's being used as a weapon for a group of consumer's commercial interests, it's a very stupid move.

As if professional critic reviews are honest....

[Deltateam Elcor]

Persephone wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

When you ruin 100 hours of fun, joy and excitement, low scores are going to happen.

However at least one thing can come out of this, people noticing that game journalism is immature and full of mindless drones, which is a dire shame considering what journalism is supposed to stand for.

The fanbase is an EXAMPLE of maturity and reflection though.

Wait, nope. They are anything BUT that.

Professional reviewers aren't self-absorbed extremists at least....

Did i say anything about the fanbase?

No, i did not.

[Persephone]

savionen wrote...

Persephone wrote...

i wasn't referring to you but to those who DO review bomb this and other games.

RPGs have always had Fetch Quests. ME always did. There were PLENTY of choices. Rannoch featured several to name but ONE mission. Auto-Dialogue what? No more than before. Less investigate options...yes, the time to investigate is OVER at that point.

There's barely any dialogue options in ME3. How many Renegade/Paragon trigger moments are there? There's next to no point in even having a Paragon/Renegade system in ME3.

We clearly have not played the same game.

[Persephone]

savionen wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s won't averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So giving out 0s which is completely dishonest and unwarranted is better than being honest and constructive? User reviews are seperate from critic reviews, they don't mix them together for an average score. Seeing the critic rating 90, and the user rating read 38 lends no credence to the system, and harms the reputation of the user review system.

The lack of honesty and constructive arguments and scores in a user review section taints the credibility of a system meant to help user advice other users without the burden of commercial interests. Instead it's being used as a weapon for a group of consumer's commercial interests, it's a very stupid move.

As if professional critic reviews are honest....

More honest than the gibberish on MC? Er, yes.

[Zix13]

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Actually, some do directly, some a little more indirectly, I suggest you try reading it next time.

Regardless of what the product is, I expect it to be what it's sold to me as. If I'm told that there will be no ABC ending, I will damn well expect that there won't be an ABC ending. Would you be happy if the car you bought because it was advertised as 4 wheel drive was actually front wheel drive? 0/10. 

Show me the AD saying that about the endings. There isn't one? What, an INTERVIEW? Yeah, no legal basis.

And again, a piece of entertainment is not like a car.

And ME3 does not deserve a 0. You've never played a broken game, have you?

Lol? Interviews with the project DIRECTOR are about as official as sources get. I never argued that it should be rated 0/10 for its content. I argued that it should be because it's not what we were told the content would be.

[Persephone]

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

When you ruin 100 hours of fun, joy and excitement, low scores are going to happen.

However at least one thing can come out of this, people noticing that game journalism is immature and full of mindless drones, which is a dire shame considering what journalism is supposed to stand for.

The fanbase is an EXAMPLE of maturity and reflection though.

Wait, nope. They are anything BUT that.

Professional reviewers aren't self-absorbed extremists at least....

Did i say anything about the fanbase?

No, i did not.

People. Fans. The fanbase is actually worse than any critic ever. While critics may be paid shills on occasion, they know how to string a sentence together & hide their agendas WAY better.

Modifié par Persephone, 07 mai 2012 - 05:12 .

[Persephone]

Zix13 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Actually, some do directly, some a little more indirectly, I suggest you try reading it next time.

Regardless of what the product is, I expect it to be what it's sold to me as. If I'm told that there will be no ABC ending, I will damn well expect that there won't be an ABC ending. Would you be happy if the car you bought because it was advertised as 4 wheel drive was actually front wheel drive? 0/10. 

Show me the AD saying that about the endings. There isn't one? What, an INTERVIEW? Yeah, no legal basis.

And again, a piece of entertainment is not like a car.

And ME3 does not deserve a 0. You've never played a broken game, have you?

Lol? Interviews with the project DIRECTOR are about as official as sources get. I never argued that it should be rated 0/10 for its content. I argued that it should be because it's not what we were told the content would be.

You were talking about advertisements. Like for a car. There were none stating this. Rate TW2 a 0 because it doesn't have the the promised 16 endings either then, I guess? Er, no.

[Zix13]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

You do realize, some of those are reasonable. I'd rate my fridge 0/10 if it didn't cool my food. If ME3 doesn't take my choices into account, which was kinda the point, it's not hard to argue a 0/10 rating for that reason.

You do realize that is pure nonsense?

You do NOT rate 0/10 something that works for the 95% of the times.. that is just plain stupid...

My Ferrari goes up to +300kmph the pain job is amazing the seats of pure leather, perfect friction with the road, everything about driving is perfect... but the cup holder is slightly smaller than my personal cup that I fit in so I cannot carry drinks in it.. so I rate this car 0/10.....    huh O.o?

I mean, without offense to the disabled, because actually they have more brain than the retards that write such things...

Horribly out of scale example. I do agree that some of them are nonsense, and some of the scores associated with them are nonsense. In fact, 0/10 is justified based on day 1 dlc only. Incomplete game should not be rated.

[Laurencio]

Zix13 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

With the majority of user reviews being a joke, I'm surprised they haven't purged the system completely.

Example from Metacritic:

3/10 - Red green and blue explosions I rest my case
0/10 -  My choices didn't matter, well, I mean the ending was ****, and they want me to buy DLC
0/10 -  Wasn't an RPG
5/10 - Multiple faults, uses the same engine as ME2 (how that is "bad" I do not know), one day DLC. Ending.
5/10 - Face import didn't work, it's an outrage
2/10 - It's Gears of War and the game mostly still uses the whole Paragon Renegade concept which I find stupid
1/10  - Day One dlc, Sex with Ashley was awkward (seriously), Rachni was understated, oh and multiplayer is bad
0/10 - Terrible graphics, poor lip synching and everything is just ****.
4/10 - "I feel betrayed", Jessica Chobot, Game is too expensive
1/10 - B-movie script, go play these games instead
1/10 - This game is average
0/10 - Booo Bioware made me feel bad!
0/10 - RGB explosions
1/10 - Too much shooting, B-movie script
0/10 -  This isn't Witcher 2
1/10 - Everything is bad, voice acting is terrible, animations are terrible and my favorite characters died.
0/10 - It's all EAs FAULT!
1/10 - Poor writing, good game, but poor writing.
0/10 - I didn't feel like my choices mattered
3/10 - Not an RPG
0/10 - Critic scores are a joke, my score is the right one!
0/10 - Terrible graphics, terrible writing, terrible controls.
0/10 - Great fantastic game until the end.
1/10 - EA
2/10 - DEUS EX WAS BETTER!
3/10 - Not an RPG!
5/10 - Didn't like the cast, the writing or the ending. (actually one of the few ones that make a semblance of sense)
0/10 - Play the game, it's terrible!
2/10 - Not an RPG! EA!
1/10 - Day one DLC! Lack of meaningful choices! BUY MORE DLC BANNER!
0/10 - The best RPG turned to the worst in 5 minutes!
0/10 - ME3 is what ME1 would be if it was a bad hollywood produced movie!
1/10 - Animations are beyond terrible, writing is terrible. SW TOR!



And that's just a small fraction of the user reviews on metacritic. Yeah I can't imagine why they would consider reviews like this to be meaningless.

You do realize, some of those are reasonable. I'd rate my fridge 0/10 if it didn't cool my food. If ME3 doesn't take my choices into account, which was kinda the point, it's not hard to argue a 0/10 rating for that reason.

And you do realize than nothing of this nonsensical trash refers to choices? And I have yet to see a game that takes previous choices into account as much as ME3 did.

And that pieces of entertainment are not the same as a fridge or a car?

Actually, some do directly, some a little more indirectly, I suggest you try reading it next time.

Regardless of what the product is, I expect it to be what it's sold to me as. If I'm told that there will be no ABC ending, I will damn well expect that there won't be an ABC ending. Would you be happy if the car you bought because it was advertised as 4 wheel drive was actually front wheel drive? 0/10. 

It's more like if you bought a car that was advertised to be the next technological innovation of a company turned out to be just like every other car in the market, which is commonplace in the car industry.

Story is only part of any reasonable score. So if the story is 0/10, which still is extreme, then fine, how about everything else? Graphics, gameplay, music, animations, cinematics, atmopsphere, bugs/lack of bugs, control mechanics, voice acting, replay value, etc.

If anything this shows that users can not be trusted to give out fair, non commercial motivated reviews. It shows that the user review system is pointless, meaningless and deeply flawed.

[Laurencio]

savionen wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

savionen wrote...

They're exaggerated to try to balance out all the "professional" reviews.

Of course the game doesn't deserve a 0, even though it actively wrecks ME1 and ME2. But having a crapton of user reviews giving 6s, 7s and 8s won't averaging out to a 7 isn't going to persuade many people to not buy it.

So giving out 0s which is completely dishonest and unwarranted is better than being honest and constructive? User reviews are seperate from critic reviews, they don't mix them together for an average score. Seeing the critic rating 90, and the user rating read 38 lends no credence to the system, and harms the reputation of the user review system.

The lack of honesty and constructive arguments and scores in a user review section taints the credibility of a system meant to help user advice other users without the burden of commercial interests. Instead it's being used as a weapon for a group of consumer's commercial interests, it's a very stupid move.

As if professional critic reviews are honest....

Of course not, that's the whole reason why user reviews were introduced in the first place! Now however it's evident that user reviews don't work, they are just as bad if not worse than commerical interest reviews.

[Persephone]

Zix13 wrote...

Horribly out of scale example. I do agree that some of them are nonsense, and some of the scores associated with them are nonsense. In fact, 0/10 is justified based on day 1 dlc only. Incomplete game should not be rated.

So DAO deserves a 0 too then? Oh no, it's only stuff you want rated down.....

[Zix13]

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Zix13 wrote...

Actually, some do directly, some a little more indirectly, I suggest you try reading it next time.

Regardless of what the product is, I expect it to be what it's sold to me as. If I'm told that there will be no ABC ending, I will damn well expect that there won't be an ABC ending. Would you be happy if the car you bought because it was advertised as 4 wheel drive was actually front wheel drive? 0/10. 

Show me the AD saying that about the endings. There isn't one? What, an INTERVIEW? Yeah, no legal basis.

And again, a piece of entertainment is not like a car.

And ME3 does not deserve a 0. You've never played a broken game, have you?

Lol? Interviews with the project DIRECTOR are about as official as sources get. I never argued that it should be rated 0/10 for its content. I argued that it should be because it's not what we were told the content would be.

You were talking about advertisements. Like for a car. There were none stating this. Rate TW2 a 0 because it doesn't have the the promised 16 endings either then, I guess? Er, no.

I didn't pay attention to any pre-release witcher 2 talk, but TW2 had 2 divergent storylines that resulted in different endings. ME3 has 1 ending. If they had 3 different endings, I would accept that. Instead, it has 3 different colours.