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[nategator]

They came to London for the food :-D

[MakeMineMako]

shodiswe wrote...

Im actualy glad Bioware surprised us and didnt make a 253rd new york invasion or 532nd LA invasion  

Maybe the reapers thoguht it was central enough position to place their teleporter pad... so they could ship in meatbags from the rest of europe, africa, america and asia..... It must have made sense to them somehow.. Does it matter? Maybe they managed to capture more live prisoners in the london area than other places.

Shanghai might have been bombed since it was a major industrial center, London probably survived bombing and had some peopel to cull. We don't know that much about what hapend to different cities around the world.

Cities in the low millions, population-wise, were wiped out from the get-go. Forth Worth, Adelaide, Al Jubail, and Hamburg were a few examples of that strategy. Shanghai, like Los Angeles and New York, would have been too good for harvesting to simply blow to hell during initial landings.

London falls into the "low millions" category, unless the population had swelled in 200 years. If not, then all we could do is speculate as to why London wasn't simply wiped off of the map.

[Laurencio]

IsaacShep wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

How on earth did you draw that conclusion?

Urhm, because there's a giant beam in London built to transport humans on the Citadel and they're building Human Reaper on the Citadel? I mean, it's all said in the game, did you miss it/forgot?

Human reaper on the Citadel?  I most certainly must have missed that. When was this mentioned and when did the Reapers begin to build it?

[MakeMineMako]

Laurencio wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

How on earth did you draw that conclusion?

Urhm, because there's a giant beam in London built to transport humans on the Citadel and they're building Human Reaper on the Citadel? I mean, it's all said in the game, did you miss it/forgot?

Human reaper on the Citadel?  I most certainly must have missed that. When was this mentioned and when did the Reapers begin to build it?

There wasn't one mentioned or shown in the game. It's just speculation.

Modifié par MakeMineMako, 07 mai 2012 - 06:37 .

[DistantUtopia]

Reaperstock: 3 centuries of Death and Destruction.

[bFootball]

mrmarcus101 wrote...

FA Cup final between Stoke City and AFC Wimbledon?

If there was ever a more grim prospect than a reaper invasion, it would be sitting through that match.

[SoloPala]

They were definitely going to make another human reaper, probably make a lot more than just 1, you're just supposed to figure that out i think from all the bodies they're piling up at the bottom of the beam and on the citadel.  Its probably one of the only things in ME3 where BW actually got that point a across without coming out and showing you, at least i thought so.

Modifié par SoloPala, 07 mai 2012 - 06:41 .

[Laurencio]

SoloPala wrote...

They were definitely going to make another human reaper, probably make a lot more than just 1, you're just supposed to figure that out i think from all the bodies they're piling up at the bottom of the beam and on the citadel.  Its probably one of the only things in ME3 where BW actually got that point a across without coming out and showing you, at least i thought so.

How does that show that they were planning this at the time of the whole Anderson's "big things in london" comment?

I mean personally I just thought that was the dead bodies from the Citadel having been "cleaned up" by the keepers.

Modifié par Laurencio, 07 mai 2012 - 06:46 .

[shepskisaac]

SoloPala wrote...

Without this vital information theres no need to move the citadel, and hence no need to build a giant teleporter on earth.

Yes there is a need, they have Reaper to build lol. And would the teleporter even have to do with TIM and the information that the Citadel is part of the Crucible? Nothing. Teleporter was built for construction of new Human Reaper

jreezy wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

Human reaper on the Citadel?  I most certainly must have missed that. When was this mentioned and when did the Reapers begin to build it?

You're not the only one who missed that. I didn't hear anything about another human reaper.

MakeMineMako wrote...

There wasn't one mentioned or shown in the game. It's just speculation.

No offence but it seems like many people really didn't pay attention to what's said in the game. Diana Allers reports that Reapers are destroying industrial/military centers while leaving population for later. Anderson says specifically that they're using the beam to transport humans to the Citadel and when he and Shep are on the Citadel, they discuss how it looks like Collector Base and how they're using the humans they gathered on Earth and then sent through the beam to build the Reaper. Ohh and even Vendetta says that Reapers are preparing to complete the ascension of humanity = turn it into a Reaper.

[Kaelef]

IsaacShep wrote...

Yes there is a need, they have Reaper to build lol. And would the teleporter even have to do with TIM and the information that the Citadel is part of the Crucible? Nothing. Teleporter was built for construction of new Human Reaper

They were well on their way towards building a human reaper in ME2 without the use of the Citadel or a teleporter.  There's no reason to believe creating a human reaper requires either.

Modifié par Kaelef, 07 mai 2012 - 07:20 .

[Drake-Shepard]

i came to say Anderson's birthday...... but was beaten to it by like 5 people. lol

[taylortexas]

IsaacShep wrote...

SoloPala wrote...

Without this vital information theres no need to move the citadel, and hence no need to build a giant teleporter on earth.

Yes there is a need, they have Reaper to build lol. And would the teleporter even have to do with TIM and the information that the Citadel is part of the Crucible? Nothing. Teleporter was built for construction of new Human Reaper

jreezy wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

Human reaper on the Citadel?  I most certainly must have missed that. When was this mentioned and when did the Reapers begin to build it?

You're not the only one who missed that. I didn't hear anything about another human reaper.

MakeMineMako wrote...

There wasn't one mentioned or shown in the game. It's just speculation.

No offence but it seems like many people really didn't pay attention to what's said in the game. Diana Allers reports that Reapers are destroying industrial/military centers while leaving population for later. Anderson says specifically that they're using the beam to transport humans to the Citadel and when he and Shep are on the Citadel, they discuss how it looks like Collector Base and how they're using the humans they gathered on Earth and then sent through the beam to build the Reaper. Ohh and even Vendetta says that Reapers are preparing to complete the ascension of humanity = turn it into a Reaper.

While this is all essentially true, the problem is that Anderson states that something "big" is going down in London before the Citadel is brought there. And the reason the Citadel is brought there is because The Illusive Man tells the Reapers that it is the Catalyst. So, they bring it back to the Sol system where they can prevent it from being utilized. So, Anderson notes that the Reapers are specifically preparing for something before they learn about the Catalyst, which would imply they were doing something completely unrelated to the Citadel and the conduit beam.

[darkchief10]

taylortexas wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

SoloPala wrote...

Without this vital information theres no need to move the citadel, and hence no need to build a giant teleporter on earth.

Yes there is a need, they have Reaper to build lol. And would the teleporter even have to do with TIM and the information that the Citadel is part of the Crucible? Nothing. Teleporter was built for construction of new Human Reaper

jreezy wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

Human reaper on the Citadel?  I most certainly must have missed that. When was this mentioned and when did the Reapers begin to build it?

You're not the only one who missed that. I didn't hear anything about another human reaper.

MakeMineMako wrote...

There wasn't one mentioned or shown in the game. It's just speculation.

No offence but it seems like many people really didn't pay attention to what's said in the game. Diana Allers reports that Reapers are destroying industrial/military centers while leaving population for later. Anderson says specifically that they're using the beam to transport humans to the Citadel and when he and Shep are on the Citadel, they discuss how it looks like Collector Base and how they're using the humans they gathered on Earth and then sent through the beam to build the Reaper. Ohh and even Vendetta says that Reapers are preparing to complete the ascension of humanity = turn it into a Reaper.

While this is all essentially true, the problem is that Anderson states that something "big" is going down in London before the Citadel is brought there. And the reason the Citadel is brought there is because The Illusive Man tells the Reapers that it is the Catalyst. So, they bring it back to the Sol system where they can prevent it from being utilized. So, Anderson notes that the Reapers are specifically preparing for something before they learn about the Catalyst, which would imply they were doing something completely unrelated to the Citadel and the conduit beam.

maybe they were just preparing a dr. who hunting party?

[kyleshuey]

 Anderson was born in London.

[Faded-Myth]

Anderson was going to announce that he was born there. Again.

And beaten to the punch. Again.

Modifié par Faded-Myth, 07 mai 2012 - 07:51 .

[shepskisaac]

Kaelef wrote...

They were well on their way towards building a human reaper in ME2 without the use of the Citadel or a teleporter.  There's no reason to believe creating a human reaper requires either.

But Citadel is not the Collector Base. Plus, it's just for transport of bodies. Really don't see why some people try to neglect obvious in-game facts that really any controversial. I mean???

taylortexas wrote...

While this is all essentially true, the problem is that Anderson states that something "big" is going down in London before the Citadel is brought there. And the reason the Citadel is brought there is because The Illusive Man tells the Reapers that it is the Catalyst. So, they bring it back to the Sol system where they can prevent it from being utilized. So, Anderson notes that the Reapers are specifically preparing for something before they learn about the Catalyst, which would imply they were doing something completely unrelated to the Citadel and the conduit beam.

The problem is that you are stuck on "Reapers only move the Citadel because of the Crucible thing". They don't, the fact that the beam is all up and ready right when they retake the Citadel proves that they were planning to retake the Citadel long before learning about the Crucible. Anderson mentions that they're setting up something big. I really really don't understand why are pople trying to deny it. It's all really clear in the game.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Kaelef wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yes there is a need, they have Reaper to build lol. And would the teleporter even have to do with TIM and the information that the Citadel is part of the Crucible? Nothing. Teleporter was built for construction of new Human Reaper

They were well on their way towards building a human reaper in ME2 without the use of the Citadel or a teleporter.  There's no reason to believe creating a human reaper requires either.

Silly you thinking you can apply story elements from the earlier games to ME 3 - that's not how it works.

[Laurencio]

IsaacShep wrote...
The problem is that you are stuck on "Reapers only move the Citadel because of the Crucible thing". They don't, the fact that the beam is all up and ready right when they retake the Citadel proves that they were planning to retake the Citadel long before learning about the Crucible. Anderson mentions that they're setting up something big. I really really don't understand why are pople trying to deny it. It's all really clear in the game.

The sequence of events makes it strange. Shep spends a whole lot of time around the Citadel as well as around the rest of the Galaxy up to the point where TIM learns what the Catalyst is. Just after he learns that, the reapers take the Citadel.

There's no "fact" that says that the conduit was up and running before the reapers took the Citadel...

Modifié par Laurencio, 07 mai 2012 - 08:38 .

[humes spork]

IsaacShep wrote...

I really really don't understand why are pople trying to deny it. It's all really clear in the game.

The thing that bugs me is that's a dinky-ass, weak little Conduit.

The one the protheans built catapulted Saren and his geth, and Shepard & Co. in the Mako, straight through the galactic core. The Reapers -- the race that built the mass relays -- needs the Citadel in LEO for their Conduit to work?

[Bad King]

Laurencio wrote...

jstme wrote...

They supposedly were preparing the teleportation beam (aka - conduit) to transfer bodies/people to citadel for the green ending.

The Citadel that we were in control of and that the Reapers didn't seem to care about until TIM told them about the catalyst?

It's a plothole just like how Cerberus attacked the Citadel before they found out it was the catalyst.

[The Angry One]

IsaacShep wrote...

But Citadel is not the Collector Base. Plus, it's just for transport of bodies.

What else is it for?

Really don't see why some people try to neglect obvious in-game facts that really any controversial. I mean???

Because Mac Walters wrote a farce.

The problem is that you are stuck on "Reapers only move the Citadel because of the Crucible thing".

Because that's what they say.

They don't, the fact that the beam is all up and ready right when they retake the Citadel proves that they were planning to retake the Citadel long before learning about the Crucible. Anderson mentions that they're setting up something big. I really really don't understand why are pople trying to deny it. It's all really clear in the game.

Because the narrative is idiotic. Why did they decide to do it now and not earlier?
Why, if they know about the Crucible, can they not WAIT until the Crucible is destroyed?
Why can't they just place teleporters on their processing ships that ALREADY HAVE humans and Reaper goo?
Also, why can they suddenly use dead bodies for this?

Modifié par The Angry One, 07 mai 2012 - 08:58 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

Artistic Integrity

[The Angry One]

humes spork wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

I really really don't understand why are pople trying to deny it. It's all really clear in the game.

The thing that bugs me is that's a dinky-ass, weak little Conduit.

The one the protheans built catapulted Saren and his geth, and Shepard & Co. in the Mako, straight through the galactic core. The Reapers -- the race that built the mass relays -- needs the Citadel in LEO for their Conduit to work?

I've got a better question. If Reapers can build teleporters, why didn't Sovereign build one and get agents onto the Citadel that way instead of searching for the Ilos conduit?

[Archontor]

They wanted the human reaper to have our dry wit.

Probably ended up being mostly chavs though so the reapers seemed to have actually helped us for once.