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I'm sure this has probably been addressed already but I'm at work and don't have time to scroll through all the threads. I am trying to kill Flemeth but am not having any luck. I am using Shale, Wynn and Alistar in my party. Any help with is is appreciated.

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Get everyone a crossbow(except Wynne and Shale of course).



Equip Shale with Fire Lage Crystals for Fire Resistance and maybe Earth or Ice Small Crystals for elemental damage.



Have Shale tank Flemeth and everyone else pelting her with bolts/arrows. Just hope you turned Shale into a tanking specc.

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Outfit Shale with fire crystals and send him in to melee Flemeth. Spread out all you other characters out of Flemeth's melee attack ranges and switch everyone to ranged weapons. Wynne heals when needed. Result is one dead dragon lady.

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I'm going to attempt to kill her very soon. What class is your PC? Dump shale for a ranged user if you have one. Have your ranged characters spread out. Only have Alistar near Flemeth. If you are a warrior/rogue equip a bow and stand back. Have wyyne healing and Alistar chugging down health potions. Be patient.

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What class are you, and how have you built up your other party members? Usually a solid tank (Alistair or Shale) with everyone else on ranged works pretty effectively.

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What are you smoking? Shale is a far superiour tank in dragon fights than Alistair! I don't think Shale can get grappled AND you can boost her Fire Resistance through the roof easy as pie.

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Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

What are you smoking? Shale is a far superiour tank in dragon fights than Alistair! I don't think Shale can get grappled AND you can boost her Fire Resistance through the roof easy as pie.


I am a dalish elf warrior level 14 using the dragon blood armor. My only archer is Leliana. No one else has any archery training.

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Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

Get everyone a crossbow(except Wynne and Shale of course).

Equip Shale with Fire Lage Crystals for Fire Resistance and maybe Earth or Ice Small Crystals for elemental damage.

Have Shale tank Flemeth and everyone else pelting her with bolts/arrows. Just hope you turned Shale into a tanking specc.

My only archer is Leliana so if no one else has any training can they still use bows?

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Doesn't matter. They can provide some form of DPS just using auto-attacks with a crossbow/bow. The problem with Dragons is that they use a lot of AoE damage in melee, so if you're struggling it is a good idea to just have one melee character engaging the Dragon. Just having to keep Shale up and about is a lot easier than having to also worry about the health of your non-tank melee characters.

Modifié par Ulrik the Slayer, 08 décembre 2009 - 09:20 .


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xboomer wrote...

edit: I speel pourly

I'm sure this has probably been addressed already but I'm at work and don't have time to scroll through all the threads. I am trying to kill Flemeth but am not having any luck. I am using Shale, Wynn and Alistar in my party. Any help with is is appreciated.


I used Alistar, Wynn and Lil (me mage) in my fight. Choose your tank, buff their fire resist and send him (it) in. Make sure the tank faces Flemmeth away from the rest of the party. The rest of the party should stand back and useed ranged weapons.

I used force field on Alistar (my tank) every time she grabbed him with her mouth. She kept chewing on him and he took no damage, otherwise it's instant death.

Some other thoughts:
  • Avoid Fire and Spirit based damge ( I had bad results for both)
  • Solid damage from Electric and Cold
  • Use Cone of Cold when its up to stop her every so often. Even if for  a few seconds it keeps the heals down.
  • Use POTs to regen mana after casting cone of cold. You'll need it when she is active.
  • If tanking, have alistar Clense right off to dispell any buffs she has up. Seeemed to help my damage a bit the second time through.
  • Alistar should have Shield Wall (if he has it) and Tunt up at all times.

Modifié par ehcaba, 08 décembre 2009 - 09:32 .


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I did both Flemeth and the Urn dragon the same way as stated here. Spread out your party and have the main tank near the dragon. Main tank fight dragon and gets healed. Everyone else uses range attacks / spells to blast dragon.

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Can anyone confirm that Shale is immune to grabs? Don't quote me on this, but from what I recall the dragon(s) never ever pick her up in their mouth when she tanked them.

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ehcaba wrote...

I used force field on Alistar (my tank) every time she grabbed him with her mouth. She kept chewing on him and he took no damage, otherwise it's instant death.


It's actually not instant death.  I duo'ed Flemeth on nightmare with a DW warrior and Wynne.  He lived through three Flemeth snack attacks and landed on the ground with about a third of his health.  He was level 13 ish with Juggernaut set.  It takes the combination of regeneration, heal, and group heal, but still... it's not impossible to live through those attacks.  The thing to remember is to always keep your main tank (if it isn't Shale) above 70% health if possible because if Flemeth grabs him in her mouth and he has less than about 50% health, you're right, it's instant death no matter what you do (unless you use Force Field or CoC, ofc)

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Ok, thanks everyone for the help. I appreciate it.

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shale never got snacked in any dragon fight and i have used her in every. knocked down sure shale isn't the best tank to keep on it's feet but it doesn't matter in the long runs since shale can soak up so much more damage. shale can solo the final boss thanks to does crystals. probably without even needing potions.

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I had a lot of trouble with her my first time too, no matter what i did i could not keep alistar up to tank her.



I ended up ranged tanking her with my mage, while Leliana shot her with a bow and wynne heal / ranged dps, and i burned a healing pot pretty much every time she fireballed me. It was close and messy to say the least.



Having shale tank her with fire resist crystals is probly the best way to go, with everybody else ranged dps, also make sure to position your ranged so that they cant be pulled to mele. And if your tank does die, move whoever has agro away from the group so the fireball does not do aoe damage.

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I did it on Easy with a couple of reloads with everyone around level 10. Alistair and MC rogue tanked Flemeth, with Alistair attacking from the front (of Flemeth) and the rogue from behind. That way only one tank takes AoE damage from Flemeth's breath and rogue damage is maximized. Leliana took potshots with her bow, while Wynne acted as healbot, with the occasional Stonefist or Winter's Breath. Neither stunned Flemeth; they just did a little extra damage. Wynne had plenty of Lyrium potions to chug. Manage your heals intelligently; don't use group heal when single heal or regen will do the trick. I also used some Auras to improve offense/stamina regen, but I'm not sure how effective they were. I didn't/don't have Shale, so couldn't use him to tank.



As an aside, how "interactive" is Shale from an RP perspective? Talking to a robot doesn't sound like much fun.

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Jhelzei wrote...
As an aside, how "interactive" is Shale from an RP perspective? Talking to a robot doesn't sound like much fun.


If you've played Knights of the Old Republic you'll recognize Shale's attitude. Just substitute Meat bag" for "It". Having said that, Shale isdamn funny and has some good lines.

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[OT] Since I was playing a goody two-shoes in KOTOR, I dropped the assassin droid (hmm, can't remember his designation - HK-47?) from most missions. What dialog I did have with him, *was* pretty funny. I'm more or less going the light side route in DAO again, so would I catch a lot of flak from Shale?

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Jhelzei wrote...

[OT] Since I was playing a goody two-shoes in KOTOR, I dropped the assassin droid (hmm, can't remember his designation - HK-47?) from most missions. What dialog I did have with him, *was* pretty funny. I'm more or less going the light side route in DAO again, so would I catch a lot of flak from Shale?


Nah, Shen and Morrigan really hate the nice stuff. Shale is OK with it.

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I managed to beat her on Nightmare with a DW Rogue (Ranger/Bard), Alistair, Sten and Wynne.





Honestly the key was just to wait until I was lvl 12 or so and could actually stand up to her. Once you get some gear and stuff it isn't too hard.

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Shale can't be bothered with good or evil. As long as there is crushing meat-things involved, she's happy.

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I used Wynne, Shale with full fire crsytals set up Leliana and me with a bows. Flemith went down fast and shale pounded her into a large gooey puddle.

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There was another post on this forum that had the solution that got me by Flemeth at around level 11. I had Alistair, Wynne and Leliana using ranged against her and had my PC, a dwarf 2-hand Warrior, stay between Flemeth's front and rear legs on one side or the other. Everytime she moved my PC got back to that postion. The dual weapon sweep skill does not require targeting and I used that whenever it was up. It took awhile but Flemeth went down. I cannot take credit for this strategy and a search will reveal my benefactor.



Spoiler - With the other dragon, the one you call with the horn/gong, I abused the "old" cone of cold and the "old" force field ("old" as of 1.2 patch just out today. Darn, that biotch was tough even using these two OP skills.)

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This is another of those that I didn't get to until late in the game. All my characters were pushing 20, so it was relatively easy regardless of tactics. Therefore, my advice is level UP!