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Shale's "Remarkable Gem" gifts only giving +5 approval?


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th3warr1or

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I thought gifts they liked were supposed to be +10, until +6, and only were halfed IF you were in negative approval?

I'm currently around 65% for Shale's approval, but yet when I give him Gems, it's still only +5, +4... +1.

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I Tsunayoshi I

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Shale is bugged enough as it is. This doesnt surprise me and I honestly dont bother with buttering up that bugger.

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th3warr1or

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What other bugs does Shale have? :S

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Shale works fine.

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th3warr1or

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What about his gifts?

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Probably just complaining with the bugs, because Shale requires more attention when you use him. Specially in the lower levels. But it's normal at the point were some gifts for some people give 5 and less. Just probably depends on  the gifts Since some do give less even if their based for them. Most of Alistair's for me only give around 5 atm...

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th3warr1or

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No i mean, all of Shale's gifts only give me 5.. normally preferred gifts are supposed to give 10, and go down to 6...

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IceTitan wrote...

Probably just complaining with the bugs, because Shale requires more attention when you use him. Specially in the lower levels. But it's normal at the point were some gifts for some people give 5 and less. Just probably depends on  the gifts Since some do give less even if their based for them. Most of Alistair's for me only give around 5 atm...


Shale starts at +5 when you gift and will eventually hit 1 for any gift

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th3warr1or

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Oh great.. you have that problem too? ^^^ so restarting won't help.

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I Tsunayoshi I

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Nope. I dont really use shale and her quest doesnt do much good for her either.

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I think shale like certain gems more i don't think this is bug it just normal, leliana got plus 10 from gifts then ended up getting plus 5 now it all depends on type of gift and how negative/positive they are to you.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 décembre 2009 - 01:25 .


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in my games she normally say oooo shiney which begins at 10 then it lowers , anyhow just by doing her personnal quest and talking to her should get her at 100% i always ended up with bunch of spare gems at the end of the game , she s one of the easyest companion to raise her approval

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Torias wrote...

Shale works fine.


Lies.

Shale's Crystals do nothing to boost atk, no set bonuses for completed sets, the gifts dont raise approval properly....

Shale does not work fine.

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Sora Kitano wrote...

Torias wrote...

Shale works fine.


Lies.

Shale's Crystals do nothing to boost atk, no set bonuses for completed sets, the gifts dont raise approval properly....

Shale does not work fine.


I can see the approval thing, though I don't know if that's "working as intended" (Shale is pretty easy to get high approval with).

When you say Shale's crystals do nothing to boost atk... do you mean, the ones that actually have a +atk stat?  Also, bonuses for completed "sets"... like... a set of two?  I don't recall it being said in any of the item descriptions of the crystals that there were set bonuses (sets all say "equip this with the gloves and boots grants a...").

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Jitawa wrote...

Sora Kitano wrote...

Torias wrote...

Shale works fine.


Lies.

Shale's Crystals do nothing to boost atk, no set bonuses for completed sets, the gifts dont raise approval properly....

Shale does not work fine.


I can see the approval thing, though I don't know if that's "working as intended" (Shale is pretty easy to get high approval with).

When you say Shale's crystals do nothing to boost atk... do you mean, the ones that actually have a +atk stat?  Also, bonuses for completed "sets"... like... a set of two?  I don't recall it being said in any of the item descriptions of the crystals that there were set bonuses (sets all say "equip this with the gloves and boots grants a...").



yes it is supposed to be a set bonus if you fit lets say 2 fire crystals  i get it sometimes, i did nt really pay attention if the crystals were bugged tho (about not giving the bonuses) maybe i ll check later

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You wait until after completing his personal quest in Cadash Thaig and you won't need to worry about the gift "glitch". (In truth he is a Golem... Affection is not his strong suit.) of course.. Shale doesn't have to be happy to destroy everything in his path... just tell him your enemy likes birds.

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I can't buy the Gem gifts for Shale.

To be correct, I can buy them but they won't appear in my inventory.

Best is, they raise my Slotbar +1 so I payed for them, they take up space but I can't use them anymore. X_X

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I just don't worry about Shale's approval. His gifts are expensive and yes, they only raise +5 starting. Not worth it.

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Lol can't believe a mod says "Shale works fine" everyone I know doesn't get more then +5, +4,+3 from gem gifts. And apparently noone gets set bonuses (i didn't even know he had set bonuses) and some people don't get stat increases from his gear.

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Except the Mod isn't a Dev though =/

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But seriously though, Shale isn't working properly and Torias should never have said that.

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Forsakerr wrote...

in my games she normally say oooo shiney which begins at 10 then it lowers , anyhow just by doing her personnal quest and talking to her should get her at 100% i always ended up with bunch of spare gems at the end of the game , she s one of the easyest companion to raise her approval


Forsakerr,

Is this with your PC or 360 version of the game?

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If Shale was designed the way she is she works fine.

If the bonuses given for the gifts were designed as is they work fine.

If Shale can squish creatures that she is told to she works fine.



Seems fine to me. :P



At any rate if her head doesn't walk around a room by itself while you are in a conversation then it isn't a bug. She works just fine.



Now if the crystals say they give a bonus when used with a like crystal and they don't that are bugged. If the description doesn't and you ASSume it gives a bonus, YOU are bugged. A patch won't fix that and neither will any dev or mod.



Have a good one follks.

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What makes you think it works fine when every other character in the game doesn't work that way, not even DOG?



On top of that, the PC version has Shale start at 10, so clearly stop being annoying and saying it works when it doesn't.



You never said it works fine, but you said it seems fine to you. There's obviously something wrong with your because I don't know how you can automatically assume that the Devs wanted Shale's preferred gifts to only give 5, when only the console versions get this bull****.



So, no, SHE WAS NOT DESIGNED THE WAY SHE IS AND SHE DOES NOT WORK FINE.



End of Story. Now if you want to continue saying she works fine, you make go and make a new thread and tell yourself that.



Oh, and she doesn't appear at the end of the game, so it doesn't work fine.

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Dog doesn't even get gift bonuses so that is a poor argument.



The PC version also has many differences because they had to port it to the console. Many were changes to help make game play easier. Again your argument fails.



I can't say is IS fine because I'm not a dev. There isn't an obvious error and you can't say it legitimately because you aren't the dev. You didn't design the issue we are referring to so again your argument fails.



So, yes, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN DESIGNED AS IS SO IT APPEARS SHE DOES WORK FINE.



I've had her at the end of the game. She speaks of heading north etc. Not missing much and the gameplay isn't broken so it seems fine.



Score:

Shale +5

th3warr1or -5



I mean really. "Ooooh the dragon flys away when I'm hitting it! BUGGED!!!"



Unless a dev says so or a patch comes out to change things, you are just making an assumption of how things should be.



What if I believed you should be able to have gay hairy dwarf sex with Ogren but since we can't it is a bug? I can't keep Alistair and have him complain to Logain, I have to pick one or the other! BUGGED!!!!! The devs didn't design the game this way so why would it be a bug just because it differs with my expectation of how things should be?







Bottom line, you can play the game with Shale, her quest works, you aren't kept from finishing the game with her. Seems fine to me.



I don't get why people need to sweat the small stuff and have such a closed mind. Their view is always the right one and there can't possibly be an explanation that contradicts them in any way.

Good lord we have so many deities running around playing games and complaining instead of using their omnipotence to fix real bugs and making sure drinks ferment...