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[th3warr1or]

I thought gifts they liked were supposed to be +10, until +6, and only were halfed IF you were in negative approval?

I'm currently around 65% for Shale's approval, but yet when I give him Gems, it's still only +5, +4... +1.

[NatOreN]

All gifts are reduced in value whenever you give them. Give Shale a remarkable mineral and all future gifts of that kind will have reduced value, but never go lower than +1.

Modifié par Saivar, 08 décembre 2009 - 09:02 .

[th3warr1or]

No, I mean it's a preferred gift, it's SUPPOSED to start off at 10, and a minimum of 6.. it's like giving Leliana chantry/andraste items or Sten paintings. they don't go lower than 6.. but instead, Shale starts off at 5 with Remarkable Gems..

[NatOreN]

Hmm, maybe the value automatically starts low if his friendship value is high? I don't recall having any sort of problem like this. Have you given him any gifts at all besides the gems? My guess would be that those may reduce value, but last I checked it only affected regular gifts and not favored ones.



Otherwise, I'd put my bet on a bug.

[Leg_lamp]

I have had the same issue with Shale as the OP, on multiple playthroughs and characters even. Playing on the XBox if it means anything.

[SarEnyaDor]

I'm on the 360 also, and never had Shale like any remarkable gem more than 5, I've had conversations that got me 12 points of approval, but the gifts, not so much.

[Zenocrate]

I heard somewhere that if you are lower than neutral in loyalty (in the negatives), gifts gain you half as much loyalty as if they were given at 0 or above. So if Shale starts off at -2 (entirely possible through dialogue options before he joins you) the first gem you give him will be +10/2 = +5. In such an example, a gem given right after that (with shale now at +3), ought to yield +9.

[DarkSpiral]

No, that isn't it.



Er, wait. YES, you are correct, Zenocrate. But that isn't the issue with Shale. I MADE SURE to max out the dialouge approval bonsues first (save, dialogue, reload if not max, rinse, repeat) and after that used the remarkable gems, and the first one was a +5. It might be that Shale simply works differently than the others, or the Remakable Gems might be missing the "preferred gift" bonus. It didn't matter much to me at the time, because I usually side with Caradin at the Anvil, and you get a sizeable approval bonus for that if Shale is present, so I didn't really need to Gems, but it does seem to be broken.

[Taleroth]

th3warr1or wrote...

No, I mean it's a preferred gift, it's SUPPOSED to start off at 10, and a minimum of 6.

Pretty sure that preferred gifts do not have a minimum of 6.  They still have a minimum of 1.

But I've also found some of the preferred gifts are just potential 5s, anyway.

Modifié par Taleroth, 09 décembre 2009 - 05:39 .

[Miss Trips]

Hmm. It may be a console glitch? On the PC, I checked to make sure Shale had positive rep, handed over the first remarkable gem and got the +10 bonus.

[th3warr1or]

Taleroth wrote...

th3warr1or wrote...

No, I mean it's a preferred gift, it's SUPPOSED to start off at 10, and a minimum of 6.

Pretty sure that preferred gifts do not have a minimum of 6.  They still have a minimum of 1.

But I've also found some of the preferred gifts are just potential 5s, anyway.

Nope, so far for all party members, preferred gifts cap at 6.