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[PJ156]

This has come up before I know and I have read some of the posts. This problem is perplexing me though.

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In the image I have set up a fire fight down the corridor. The walls of the rooms are made up of a composite of jail walls and bookcases. As you can see (I hope) the wall are placeables and have baked okay.

My idea is that the archers at the top of the corridor are better than you but you can duck behind the wall and heal up. In game this is not the case. I move behind the wall and both pc and npc fire away through the wall with impunity.

I'm guessing perhaps that the jail wall does not block LOS for obvious reasons, does the bookcase placeable. If not, what placeable can I build into the wall to enxure LOS is blocked when the PC ducks behind the wall?

Cheers,

PJ

Modifié par PJ156, 10 mai 2012 - 05:58 .

[Dann-J]

A collision box scaled down to be very narrow, with collisions turned on, inside the bookcases might do the trick. Make it non-usable and non-static (uncheck both), as well as setting the 'plot' flag.

[M. Rieder]

If all else fails, you could put some tileset walls there, although I know that probably isn't the look you are going for.

[Lugaid of the Red Stripes]

I just remember that the battlement placeable inexplicably blocks LOS, the short little dentitions they put on top of castle walls. It must just be a function of the placeable model, with the game engine using maybe the c2 or c3 data to calculate LOS.

It might also be that the AI is completely ignoring LOS, for efficiency reasons.

You could some type of terrain trigger to mitigate the arrow fire, either making the PC invulnerable or invisible (concealment, stealth bonuses, etc.), or shutting off the archer AI when the PC is hidden in a bolthole.

[PJ156]

Hello again gentlemen,

Neither the colision box nor the battlements worked so I need to try a scripted solution. I have immobile npcs so rather than affect the character in some way I am going to try to force the npc's to swith to a melee weapon when the player disappears and back to missle when they reappear. it's not ideal the other party members will get a free pop at the bad guys when the pc ducks.

Hmmm more thought needed. This is taking way more time than it is worth in game.

PJ

[Lugaid of the Red Stripes]

You could script-hide the archers. A concealment bonus, which is how the dice game handles this, would give the PC protection, though it would also give players the option of trying to shoot it out with the archers instead of just running the gauntlet, but choices are good, right?

Try not to think of it as time wasted, though. You're learning how the game works, and so as you design new encounters, you'll be able to circumvent the engine's limitations and better use the things that do work.

[PJ156]

Thanks LotRS I will think on that ... right now my script is not working either but I can fix that.

I guess it's not wasted as you say but I am very driven towards and ending on this. I am not one to linger and beat my head simply because the challenge is there. The end is my goal and it's a ways off yet. There's the next project

PJ

[Dann-J]

What about triggers in the safe zones with OnEnter scripts that blind the archers, and OnExit scripts that remove the blindess effect? PCs and companions certainly can't target enemies when blinded, so I'm assuming the same is true of hostiles.

[PJ156]

Thanks for that, Dann. In the end I went with script hidden and it works well. As you close with the archers I reset the movement rate and they come at you anyway so it all seems to work smoothly enough.

Thanks for all the help and comments guys,

PJ

[Dann-J]

I've been doing a bit of testing myself, and it seems that wall placeables block line of sight quite well if you bake them in as static. Enemies turn black when you pass behind the wall placeable, and they stop firing at you (provided they're immobile). Scaling down the short section of grey stone wall (making it very thin) and hiding it inside an environmental model would also have done the trick.

[M. Rieder]

Hey, that's really good info, Dann. Thanks for sharing.