Which is better in both ME2 and ME3? Revenent or Mattock?
Revenent or Mattock?
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Posté 07 mai 2012 - 11:52
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Those weapons have changed quite a bit between ME2 and ME3.
[ME2]
o Revenant was a decent AR once you had all the accuracy bonuses researched.
o I did not use the Mattock in ME2 (I think it was a DLC purchase) but I've been told that it was deadly accurate and a great rifle. I wish I'd been able to use it.
[ME3]
o Revenant works best with the Turian Soldier. It is quite different to me than it was in ME2. High ROF, decent damage, large recoil, low accuracy.
o Mattock is a great rifle but suffers from a miserable total ammo capacity. It and the Phaeston are my favorite ARs but they get outclassed unfortunately in MP when playing Gold by the SRs and HPs. It also wears out my fingers trying to fire it fast enough to take down enemies in Gold MP.
[ME2]
o Revenant was a decent AR once you had all the accuracy bonuses researched.
o I did not use the Mattock in ME2 (I think it was a DLC purchase) but I've been told that it was deadly accurate and a great rifle. I wish I'd been able to use it.
[ME3]
o Revenant works best with the Turian Soldier. It is quite different to me than it was in ME2. High ROF, decent damage, large recoil, low accuracy.
o Mattock is a great rifle but suffers from a miserable total ammo capacity. It and the Phaeston are my favorite ARs but they get outclassed unfortunately in MP when playing Gold by the SRs and HPs. It also wears out my fingers trying to fire it fast enough to take down enemies in Gold MP.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 01:15
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o I did not use the Mattock in ME2 (I think it was a DLC purchase) but I've been told that it was deadly accurate and a great rifle.
It is.
Deadly accurate, practially negating need for SR on most ranges and most situations, plus quite powerful. Eats through ammo faster than hungry soldier through his ration, yes. But that's plus - best trigger in game. Of course, some folks don't like "click enemies to their deaths", but I better do that than send 90% of my rounds "over there".
One of few purchases in ME franchise I'm not sorry for.
In ME3 she's not as accurate at she was before and lost some power. They added some ammo capacity over ME2 (96 vs 64), but I think it's not honest trade-off.
Never liked Revenant - a way too innacurate then still innacurate now. Plus weight, muzzle climb, etc. For teammates it could be good weapon, with, say. Incendiary Explosive ammo, since they never ran out of ammo and don't give a damn about accuracy.
Answer is obvious - Mattock.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 01:25
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Rudy Lis wrote...
BrookNone wrote...
o I did not use the Mattock in ME2 (I think it was a DLC purchase) but I've been told that it was deadly accurate and a great rifle.
It is.
Deadly accurate, practially negating need for SR on most ranges and most situations, plus quite powerful. Eats through ammo faster than hungry soldier through his ration, yes. But that's plus - best trigger in game. Of course, some folks don't like "click enemies to their deaths", but I better do that than send 90% of my rounds "over there".
One of few purchases in ME franchise I'm not sorry for.
In ME3 she's not as accurate at she was before and lost some power. They added some ammo capacity over ME2 (96 vs 64), but I think it's not honest trade-off.
Never liked Revenant - a way too innacurate then still innacurate now. Plus weight, muzzle climb, etc. For teammates it could be good weapon, with, say. Incendiary Explosive ammo, since they never ran out of ammo and don't give a damn about accuracy.
Answer is obvious - Mattock.
Heh, I prefer the Rev over the Mattock but both are quality weapons, they just fill different roles. As you said, the Mattock is accurate over extremely long ranges and deals a lot of damage per shot. The Rev was never meant to be used at the ranges the Mattock is. The Rev's forte is short to mid ranges and instead of making every shot a headshot, the Rev is meant to put a lot of shots on target. I never found the muzzle climb too unreasonable, burst fire and AR were enough to counter the recoil. I admit the weight of it is a lot especially at early ranks but its still managable. In the end I guess it just comes down to personal choice.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 01:43
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Heh, I prefer the Rev over the Mattock but both are quality weapons, they just fill different roles. As you said, the Mattock is accurate over extremely long ranges and deals a lot of damage per shot. The Rev was never meant to be used at the ranges the Mattock is. The Rev's forte is short to mid ranges and instead of making every shot a headshot, the Rev is meant to put a lot of shots on target. I never found the muzzle climb too unreasonable, burst fire and AR were enough to counter the recoil. I admit the weight of it is a lot especially at early ranks but its still managable. In the end I guess it just comes down to personal choice.
Heh, I never said there are two opinions - wrong and mine.
I don't really care about weight in ME3 - my soldier usually runs with -200% overweight, so I don't care.
What I care is accuracy and Revenant is basically "flash-hider" range gun, on 20 meters it will send it's mag on about 2, if not 3 human-sized targets (fine for brutes or atlases, though), standing shoulder to shoulder (and that's with recoil dampner in ME3). Mattock will send rounds onto chest areat at this distance. And for short range I prefer shotgun. Burst fire can help that a bit, but it will reduce total damage dealt. So it's another morton's fork for me.
If someone want to "melt" things with IEA - Avenger, Phaeston or GPR make that much more accurately and at longer distances.
I know, we all different and has our own preferences, but this one is mine. Not most right or truest, not artistic - simply mine.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 01:48
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Revenant? Because I'm trigger happy. I kill anything that moves.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 02:29
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And here is the official answer 
ME2
Revenant was actually quite good and accurate enough to score headshot after headshot at range if you fired one shot at a time. With Adrenaline Rush it was even better. My favorite gun in the game, although it is very close between it and the Viper.
Mattock was just broken under Adrenaline Rush and mildly overpowered under Charge though. It had near laser accuracy and a theoretical ROF of 750rpm (higher than Revenant) which was not achievable in real time, but was achievable with time dilation, leading to the erroneous theory that it was "bugged" under Adrenaline Rush. On any other class it was a good weapon, but not a whole lot better than the Vindicator.
ME3
Revenant suffers from ridiculously crappy accuracy which is mildly improved with the Scope. If you take it to the firing range and put the target at the second range back you will find that with the scope you should be able to get most hits on the silhouette. Otherwise some shots would be off the paper. I am fine with the muzzle climb that it has, which you can mitigate with the Damper if you want, but the ridiculously poor accuracy was a bad decision by the developers, which isn't really mitigated by firing bursts. Don't fire it un-aimed at anything that is more than 2m away.
Mattock has been brought into reality, but it is still one of the best weapons in the class.
Revenant still wins for fun though
ME2
Revenant was actually quite good and accurate enough to score headshot after headshot at range if you fired one shot at a time. With Adrenaline Rush it was even better. My favorite gun in the game, although it is very close between it and the Viper.
Mattock was just broken under Adrenaline Rush and mildly overpowered under Charge though. It had near laser accuracy and a theoretical ROF of 750rpm (higher than Revenant) which was not achievable in real time, but was achievable with time dilation, leading to the erroneous theory that it was "bugged" under Adrenaline Rush. On any other class it was a good weapon, but not a whole lot better than the Vindicator.
ME3
Revenant suffers from ridiculously crappy accuracy which is mildly improved with the Scope. If you take it to the firing range and put the target at the second range back you will find that with the scope you should be able to get most hits on the silhouette. Otherwise some shots would be off the paper. I am fine with the muzzle climb that it has, which you can mitigate with the Damper if you want, but the ridiculously poor accuracy was a bad decision by the developers, which isn't really mitigated by firing bursts. Don't fire it un-aimed at anything that is more than 2m away.
Mattock has been brought into reality, but it is still one of the best weapons in the class.
Revenant still wins for fun though
Modifié par capn233, 08 mai 2012 - 02:30 .
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 03:39
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I like the Revvy the best if your playing a soldier in SP or MP , just equipe stabilizer mod. . .you will be ok if your playing a divergent class I say go Mattock. . .
I did a run with Ash and Garrus and my soldier Shep all with Revvy doing the earth mission we just burn thur reapers. . .brutes no problem . . . I let them both use widow to clear out forces from a distance while I used a scoped out paladin. . .for distance and headshots . . . Then finished up with Revvys as a squad. . . My fav in MP with human or turain soldier
I did a run with Ash and Garrus and my soldier Shep all with Revvy doing the earth mission we just burn thur reapers. . .brutes no problem . . . I let them both use widow to clear out forces from a distance while I used a scoped out paladin. . .for distance and headshots . . . Then finished up with Revvys as a squad. . . My fav in MP with human or turain soldier
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 09:14
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The Mattock was better in ME2. In ME3 I haven't really decided. I definitely prefer the Revenant in both games though.
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 12:20
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In Me3 i absolutely love the mattock. I can kill anything with it, and the revenant is just too inaccurate for my liking. Unfortunately i havent unlocked either wep in multiplayer, however for the last few weeks ive been trying to unlock the mattock.
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 12:22
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Mattock for both ME2 and ME3, That is if you have a fast trigger finger as it is a semi-automatic. Some people don't like that. Thus some people prefer the Full-auto of the Revenant.
I got bored and bought the ME2 weapon DLC and was so glad I did. The Avenger and Revenant just didn't cut it for me in the Assault Rifle department. Then I got the Mattock and enjoyed my ME2 experience from then on. The Revenant is ok once you max out all of the AR upgrades. but the highly accurate semi automatic trumps it.
ME3 depending on your difficulty you need something that is accurate and can pack a punch. Mattock brings both of those to the table. Revenant, you seriously have to stand out in the open for too long for it do reach it's damage potential. I don't see how the low ammo is an issue, especially with the added ammo , ammo powers give you. Plus ammo is everywhere in this game.
I got bored and bought the ME2 weapon DLC and was so glad I did. The Avenger and Revenant just didn't cut it for me in the Assault Rifle department. Then I got the Mattock and enjoyed my ME2 experience from then on. The Revenant is ok once you max out all of the AR upgrades. but the highly accurate semi automatic trumps it.
ME3 depending on your difficulty you need something that is accurate and can pack a punch. Mattock brings both of those to the table. Revenant, you seriously have to stand out in the open for too long for it do reach it's damage potential. I don't see how the low ammo is an issue, especially with the added ammo , ammo powers give you. Plus ammo is everywhere in this game.
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 05:14
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Rib0flavin wrote...
Mattock for both ME2 and ME3, That is if you have a fast trigger finger as it is a semi-automatic. Some people don't like that. Thus some people prefer the Full-auto of the Revenant.
This isn't why I prefer it though. In fact, I think it's easier to use the Mattock.
The problem in ME2 was that the Mattock simply did absurd damage. Combined with Adrenaline Rush it was gamebreaking. In ME3 it's a good weapon, but not by far the best like it used to be.
