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So the Silent Grove is Filling in the Picture. Spoilers.


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 About the truth about the Dragon Age world. It seems Dragons are privotal to the worlds existense they are literally the Blood that keeps the world flowing. It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull. It's also known now that Dragons possibly the Archdemons are awakened by the blood of important royal families such as Marics blood and Alistairs. Dragon Age 3 is going to get really interesting.

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So the blights happen to make sure the races band together and don't kill each other and don't get too powerful? It looks like we might be headed to another ME3

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wsandista wrote...

So the blights happen to make sure the races band together and don't kill each other and don't get too powerful? It looks like we might be headed to another ME3


I had the same thought.

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Dakota Strider wrote...

wsandista wrote...

So the blights happen to make sure the races band together and don't kill each other and don't get too powerful? It looks like we might be headed to another ME3


I had the same thought.


Still more coherent plot than DA2, that isn't saying much though

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wsandista wrote...

So the blights happen to make sure the races band together and don't kill each other and don't get too powerful? It looks like we might be headed to another ME3


Haha, this was my initial thought too.

I hope David and the writers are a little more creative than that...because it sounds exactly like ME3...

In any case, this explains a lot of things in DA. It explains why characters like Hawke ended up going missing after DA2...

Guess I can rule him out as being a playable companion in DA3.

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I don't know.................

I do not think that Thedas is 'the whole planet'. It's just a part of it. Humans came from Par Vollen which only is shown in a small part on the Thedas map, and so did the Kossith. I'm sure that if the plot for the story needs it other races will emerge from other parts of the globe.

Thedas's history is is written down only goes back for what? 2000 years or so?

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sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

I don't know.................

I do not think that Thedas is 'the whole planet'. It's just a part of it. Humans came from Par Vollen which only is shown in a small part on the Thedas map, and so did the Kossith. I'm sure that if the plot for the story needs it other races will emerge from other parts of the globe.

Thedas's history is is written down only goes back for what? 2000 years or so?


Thedas isn't the entire world. It's only the known world. So yea, it's possible they have many more continents past Thedas. The Quanari is still somewhat of a mystery overall.

I think OP is making it sound simple compared to what the actual plot will be in DA3. I find it hard to believe David and the writers would copy something so similar to the extinction cycle in ME3. I'm sure they have much more to it than the comics can reveal.

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deuce985 wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

I don't know.................

I do not think that Thedas is 'the whole planet'. It's just a part of it. Humans came from Par Vollen which only is shown in a small part on the Thedas map, and so did the Kossith. I'm sure that if the plot for the story needs it other races will emerge from other parts of the globe.

Thedas's history is is written down only goes back for what? 2000 years or so?


Thedas isn't the entire world. It's only the known world. So yea, it's possible they have many more continents past Thedas. The Quanari is still somewhat of a mystery overall.

I think OP is making it sound simple compared to what the actual plot will be in DA3. I find it hard to believe David and the writers would copy something so similar to the extinction cycle in ME3. I'm sure they have much more to it than the comics can reveal.


Image IPB I think the comics are just an addition and you should not pay to much attention to them. I for one (and I suspect many others) haven't read them/know about them. So it would not be logical to let them indicate how the story in 'the game Thedas' will evolve.

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deuce985 wrote...

I think OP is making it sound simple compared to what the actual plot will be in DA3. I find it hard to believe David and the writers would copy something so similar to the extinction cycle in ME3. I'm sure they have much more to it than the comics can reveal.


I hope not, because it certainly sounds lame.  Not to mention nonsensical, since the Blights have certainly NOT maintained any kind of "balance" between the races--the dwarves were nearly annihilated completely by the First Blight and have been in decline ever since.  So, what, dwarves don't count?  It's not like the dwarves were tyrannizing any of the surface races at the time and NEEDED to be trimmed back.  The Blights have really only encouraged human hegemony, much in the way that government programs which restrict companies hit the smaller ones worse, because they simply can't afford the kinds of expenditures simply needed to keep up with all the red tape.

I suspect the OP is inaccurately recounting a situation where maybe some of the characters theorize that the Blights may not be entirely bad in their effects because they deplete and divert the resources of the major, powerful tyrannies (Orlais and Tevinter), who have borne much of the brunt of fighting them in the past and thus allow for periods of greater freedom in the period after the Blight when the military might of the Empires is sadly depleted.  However, this has not been the case with the Fifth Blight, which was pretty much All Ferelden, All The Time.  It may result in Orlais once again swallowing Ferelden.  Or not, considering Orlais seems to be going through unrelated political upheaval at the moment.

As for dragons, kings, archdemons, etc. being connected--eh, could be.  Not much has been revealed about how Dragon Cults work, exactly, but dragons are somehow able to commune/communicate with (at least some) humans enough to work out some kind of dealing.  The humans gain SOME kind of benefit from the dragon's blood, and supposedly the cults were a lot more prevalent pre-Andraste.  It is not impossible that ancient lines (i.e. the Blood of Calenhad) might have involved dragon-worshippers.  The Old Gods may have simply been ancient dragons with *enormous* cult followings.  Dragons may have some kind of shared-mind thing going on (propagated through their blood), that may increase in intelligence/power as they gain more and more followers.

If you carry this idea further, the Darkspawn taint, that supposedly came into being because of something the Magisters did at the behest (or encouragement) of the Old Gods which may have been dragons, involves the blood somehow.  It might have been a result of an attempt by the ancient Magisters to enormously increase the power and authority of the blood-sharing effect--mass-producing drones who could be directly commanded by blooded followers. 

Edit:  Yeah, read it.  Totally cryptic and unrevealing, and the effect/purpose/cause of teh Blight wasn't even MENTIONED anywhere in the comic.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 08 mai 2012 - 04:33 .


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idea... What if flemmeth and her daughters are basically guardians of the last untainted old god which can only be unsealed with the royal bloodline of calenhad?

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idea... What if flemmeth and her daughters are basically guardians of the last untainted old god which can only be unsealed with the royal bloodline of calenhad?


I'm not sure how they would be able to protect the Old God from darkspawn detection. Maybe the magicks in and around the Hall of Sleepers act as some kind of barrier to that?

Or perhaps the dragons of the Silent Grove are not the Old Gods exactly, but their first line of descendants - still powerful beyond imagining, and possibly tied in with various prophecies mentioned in-game.

Still, the blood of the king/king's line concept is interesting. Maybe only someone from Calenhad's line can find/wield the long lost sword Nemetos. Maybe only someone carrying that blood can unlock not only the mysteries of dragons, but the secrets that may be trapped within the lake named after that first king...

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull.


It also reads that it's entirely plausible that the above quote is full of crap. It's shown that it could be suggested that no such comparisons to ME3 exist in the comic, even though it's said that I've insinuated I haven't even read the thing myself.

At least you could have tried comparing the darkspawn to Firefly's Reavers. :P Reapers, though? C'mon.

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

 About the truth about the Dragon Age world. It seems Dragons are privotal to the worlds existense they are literally the Blood that keeps the world flowing. It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull. It's also known now that Dragons possibly the Archdemons are awakened by the blood of important royal families such as Marics blood and Alistairs. Dragon Age 3 is going to get really interesting.

Either I misread the whole thing, my memory's failing me or we didn't read the same thing, because I certainly didn't draw that many conclusions, especially about the Archdemons.

(as for it resembling the ME plot or not, I don't care. Haven't played it and probably never will).

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Its a very cryptic comic, doesn't tell us anything really.(BioWare loves being cryptic) I'm actually more interested in the end when Alistair stabs Yavana & wondering what the consequences of that will be. Did he do good or bad for the world? Will Flemeth be pissed at him?

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Not that I read the comics ... :z .. so the synopsis sound interesting at least.

Maybe Yavana is just issuing "propaganda" in that sense that the player will "think twice" about killing a Dragon or opposing Flemeth .. or so?

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I didn't get the "unite people "part neither.
There's almost always a crisis in Thedas ,or one boiling somewhere.
And the Blight are bad , land and people getting tainted or butchered , not something really good.
What might be dangerous is slaying archdemon , since the people knows nothing about them , and most of what they know is theory.
A lot of thing , we know as player can be dismiss.Since codex is PNJ thought on something , and a lot of pnj we met might be lying or in the dark.

As for the blood , dragons seems to be asleep.What happens to human when they are asleep?Their mind are in the fade.You need blood magic or lyrium to get in there.
And there's this place where Morrigan is going thru the Eluvian.If dragon mind aren't in the fade , they might be there , and it might require special blood to get them fully back in Thedas.

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wsandista wrote...

So the blights happen to make sure the races band together and don't kill each other and don't get too powerful? It looks like we might be headed to another ME3


I will nuke it from the orbit if that happens.

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...
About the truth about the Dragon Age world. It seems Dragons are privotal to the worlds existense they are literally the Blood that keeps the world flowing. It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull. It's also known now that Dragons possibly the Archdemons are awakened by the blood of important royal families such as Marics blood and Alistairs. Dragon Age 3 is going to get really interesting.


That would be an interesting theory if Archdemons or the Blights were mentioned at all in the comics.

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David Gaider wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...
About the truth about the Dragon Age world. It seems Dragons are privotal to the worlds existense they are literally the Blood that keeps the world flowing. It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull. It's also known now that Dragons possibly the Archdemons are awakened by the blood of important royal families such as Marics blood and Alistairs. Dragon Age 3 is going to get really interesting.


That would be an interesting theory if Archdemons or the Blights were mentioned at all in the comics.


Way to spoil the conspiracy fun.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Its a very cryptic comic, doesn't tell us anything really.(BioWare loves being cryptic) I'm actually more interested in the end when Alistair stabs Yavana & wondering what the consequences of that will be. Did he do good or bad for the world? Will Flemeth be pissed at him?


Yes, that exactly what I am most interested in.  What will be the the consequences of Alistair's killing of Yavana?  I hope he had a long trem strategic motive in killing her.  Afterall, as shown, it seems very spontaneous and not a personality trait you would want in a mature King. 

Also, I have a fetish for the Witches of the Wild and I hope we see much more of them.  :devil:

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Lakhi wrote...

Way to spoil the conspiracy fun.

Really though, conspiracy posts shouldn't use terms like "it is also revealed" and "it's also known now" when it's just not true. You can theorize all you want, but that's all it is, unless DG comes in here and confirms it. And there he is, not confirming anything.

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David Gaider wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...
About the truth about the Dragon Age world. It seems Dragons are privotal to the worlds existense they are literally the Blood that keeps the world flowing. It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull. It's also known now that Dragons possibly the Archdemons are awakened by the blood of important royal families such as Marics blood and Alistairs. Dragon Age 3 is going to get really interesting.


That would be an interesting theory if Archdemons or the Blights were mentioned at all in the comics.


, im just adding what i think the purpose of the Silent grove is after reading the comics it might be possible Flemeth keeps watch and assesses the world situation and then tells Yavana to release an Archdemon? if a paticular country gets to dangerous and powerfull or if theres to much fighting between countries?. Im just speculating on what was said and adding my own theory no need to get hostile good sir :D

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...
About the truth about the Dragon Age world. It seems Dragons are privotal to the worlds existense they are literally the Blood that keeps the world flowing. It is also revealed that it might be possible that each Archdemon is released when a great crisis strikes Thedas it unites the humans,dwarfes and elves together and makes sure no one country or race gets to powerfull. It's also known now that Dragons possibly the Archdemons are awakened by the blood of important royal families such as Marics blood and Alistairs. Dragon Age 3 is going to get really interesting.


That would be an interesting theory if Archdemons or the Blights were mentioned at all in the comics.


, im just adding what i think the purpose of the Silent grove is after reading the comics it might be possible Flemeth keeps watch and assesses the world situation and then tells Yavana to release an Archdemon? if a paticular country gets to dangerous and powerfull or if theres to much fighting between countries?. Im just speculating on what was said and adding my own theory no need to get hostile good sir :D


I think most of us figured it was your own theories because some of what you mentioned would definitely lead to writing inconsistencies.

However, the royal blood is interesting. That actually explains a lot of unexplained plot holes in the DA universe. Like you mentioned Maric or even Hawke at the end of DA2.

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

, im just adding what i think the purpose of the Silent grove is after reading the comics it might be possible Flemeth keeps watch and assesses the world situation and then tells Yavana to release an Archdemon? if a paticular country gets to dangerous and powerfull or if theres to much fighting between countries?.


Considering the last archdemon was released by the Architect, and this after the war between Ferelden and Orlais had finished, I don't see how your theory works. ;)

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

, im just adding what i think the purpose of the Silent grove is after reading the comics it might be possible Flemeth keeps watch and assesses the world situation and then tells Yavana to release an Archdemon? if a paticular country gets to dangerous and powerfull or if theres to much fighting between countries?.


Considering the last archdemon was released by the Architect, and this after the war between Ferelden and Orlais had finished, I don't see how your theory works. ;)


He might have used Grey Warden who's blood has royal ancestors?