Horrible Train wreck. Indoc. theory means the ending isn't an ending at all. Why would that make anyone happy? We'd be back at square one not knowing what really happened to all the characters we care about? How could that be a good thing? I don't know why that theory is so popular. I just don't get it. That's like hoping to get toe fungus.
Would the Indoctrination Theory be a Buzz Kill or a Touchdown if true?
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 06:41
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I still don't understand the logic of "Grrr Bioware sold an incomplete game?!@!! And then they released the ending later for FREE?!?! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!1! RAAAAAAAAGE!!!"
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 06:50
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I was partially disappointed because the ending came out of nowhere to me; if there were underlying hints during the game or even the previous two games that would link to the events that happened during the ending, then perhaps it would have made sense and seemed more like a finished product than something randomly thrown together. I like the indoctrination theory (or what I have heard from it) because when it applies to the ending, it makes sense to me. There were several convincing arguments (destruction ending is the only end where Shepard survives is the one that got me), but I could still be in furious disbelief and am clinging onto whatever viable theory that makes me feel better about the ending.
That said, if the indoctrination theory holds out to be true, then Bioware royally trolled us. A probably epic turn around as well.
That said, if the indoctrination theory holds out to be true, then Bioware royally trolled us. A probably epic turn around as well.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 06:57
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Unschuld wrote...
I still don't understand the logic of "Grrr Bioware sold an incomplete game?!@!! And then they released the ending later for FREE?!?! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!1! RAAAAAAAAGE!!!"
So the EC is expected to have a whole new ending without any gameplay ?
Edit: Oh, right. Since one of the premises of IT is that Bio's lying to us, lying about the content of the DLC isn't fatal to the theory.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 06:58
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Unschuld wrote...
I still don't understand the logic of "Grrr Bioware sold an incomplete game?!@!! And then they released the ending later for FREE?!?! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!1! RAAAAAAAAGE!!!"
That's because you obviously have the intellectual abilities of a twelve year old on memebase.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:55
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It would be quite the twist ending, I'd think it would be epic.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 08:00
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I think it's their best bet to get out of the hole they got themselves in with that train wreck ending.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 08:25
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It have to be the best bloody part of all three games combined.,
otherwise
people are already upset they already know how it all ends.
The endings have been ripped apart in the least 2 months, some have already made up their minds on everything.
Most people already know what they don't want and wont be very interested if thats what they get
Its very difficult now to make something that most people can enjoy.
It has to be very comprehensive and detailed.
Basically can Bioware do a slam dunk while in chains ?
If they take of the chains and try for a slam dunk, most people wont care even if it is a slam dunk.
Thats not what people want from the EC.
otherwise
people are already upset they already know how it all ends.
The endings have been ripped apart in the least 2 months, some have already made up their minds on everything.
Most people already know what they don't want and wont be very interested if thats what they get
Its very difficult now to make something that most people can enjoy.
It has to be very comprehensive and detailed.
Basically can Bioware do a slam dunk while in chains ?
If they take of the chains and try for a slam dunk, most people wont care even if it is a slam dunk.
Thats not what people want from the EC.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:20
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AlanC9 wrote...
Unschuld wrote...
I still don't understand the logic of "Grrr Bioware sold an incomplete game?!@!! And then they released the ending later for FREE?!?! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!1! RAAAAAAAAGE!!!"
So the EC is expected to have a whole new ending without any gameplay ?
Edit: Oh, right. Since one of the premises of IT is that Bio's lying to us, lying about the content of the DLC isn't fatal to the theory.
I don't know, isn't that the premise of everyone that's being negative on the forums now, not just IT, that Bioware is spouting nothing but lies? Could have sworn the devs said something a while ago that inferred the "no gameplay" aspect was just a rumor.
Sdrol117 wrote...
That's because you obviously have the intellectual abilities of a twelve year old on memebase.
Enlighten me.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:30
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If it is true and done correctly, it will be a touchdown for sure.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:32
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Buzz kill.
The devs have already played their hand, even if they change it retroactively now to make IT true, I'll know that wasn't their intention originally and the new ending is basiclly ascended fanfiction
The devs have already played their hand, even if they change it retroactively now to make IT true, I'll know that wasn't their intention originally and the new ending is basiclly ascended fanfiction
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:38
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It would force every character to pick the destroy ending, pigeonholing Shepard into a very specific personality. It would be even worse than to accept the ending at face value. As an example, one of my Shepards supports Cerberus ideology, but not some of their cruel methods. If IT is true, even this Shepard would be forced to pick the destroy ending to not "lose" the game.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:49
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Unschuld wrote...
I still don't understand the logic of "Grrr Bioware sold an incomplete game?!@!! And then they released the ending later for FREE?!?! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!1! RAAAAAAAAGE!!!"
Because when people bought it they expected it to complete at the point of purchase. They did not want to wait a month to have the story finished.
How would you feel if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal, got most of it, then had the last bit delayed for a week?
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:50
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THiswsandista wrote...
Unschuld wrote...
I still don't understand the logic of "Grrr Bioware sold an incomplete game?!@!! And then they released the ending later for FREE?!?! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!1! RAAAAAAAAGE!!!"
Because when people bought it they expected it to complete at the point of purchase. They did not want to wait a month to have the story finished.
How would you feel if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal, got most of it, then had the last bit delayed for a week?
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:52
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AlanC9 wrote...
I just had a horrible thought.....wsandista wrote...
No those choices are being presented to you by a magic space kid. The mass relays did explode, when they do that, they take out the whole system they are in. So why did they show that where the Normandy crashlands? ME3 was just full of plotholes and bad writing, NOT just the ending.
News flash. Using the Crucible on a relay doesn't destroy the system it's in. Also, plenty of systems don't have relays in the first place, but that's not as important.
If you want to claim Bio misled you, feel free. They don't seem to have anticipated that anyone would think using the Crucible on a relay would do the exact same thing as hitting the relay with an asteroid.
All the ending rage.... how much of it comes from players with the same wacky interpretation of the endings that wsandista has? I've been assuming that they're a tiny minority. Are they?
Well when there is no evidence that the crucible destroying a mass relay is any different than an asteroid doing it, assuming the destruction of systems that contain mass relays is the logical assumption.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 04:58
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I'd have to lean towards touchdown. I'm assuming the idea behind "buzz kill" is that the IT loses its impact because the fans figured out it before it actually happened? Not a problem for me. I just want the ending to make sense, and the IT would solve alot of problems. Although, my own problems can be solved without IT as well.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:08
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Ashep123 wrote...
Your thoughts?
My thoughts?
It would have been a touchdown if they had announced it at or before PAX.
After all this PR bull and dragging out this misery that is listening to EA and Bioware act silly about it on twitter and getting all mad that the fanbase is all mad has just made me all mad.
It will be the best they can do at this point. And no, it certainly wouldn't be a buzz kill.
The series is all but dead to me at this point. It's becomming harder to salvage for me day by day.
-My thoughts.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:18
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wsandista wrote...
Because when people bought it they expected it to complete at the point of purchase. They did not want to wait a month to have the story finished.
How would you feel if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal, got most of it, then had the last bit delayed for a week?
If you're going to make a food analogy (which is silly), a better one would be that you DID get a complete meal, which was O.K., but a few weeks later you got a surprise coupon in the mail from the restaurant for a free dessert.
ME3 DID have an ending, and taken literally is pretty definitive (even though a bit ambiguous). There's nothing wrong with adding a twist to the end, especially when it comes at no additional cost besides time. This does not make it an incomplete game any more than ME2 shipping without LotSB or Arrival made it incomplete.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:23
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Ending an epic trillogy without an actual ending is just as insulting as with a bad ending.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:23
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Complete Buzz Kill.
I've already stopped playing ME3 (on account of more things than just the ending which I found acceptable) but if IT is proven true I'll chuck the entire ME series into a rubbish bin and never look back.
I've already stopped playing ME3 (on account of more things than just the ending which I found acceptable) but if IT is proven true I'll chuck the entire ME series into a rubbish bin and never look back.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:33
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IMO it would be the biggest twist ever made in video gaming.
And a way to ME4.
And a way to ME4.
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:41
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How? Would ME4 finally let us fight the Reapers for real if IT was true?
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:50
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IT would not be an ending to the game, just an extension of it that leads to the real ending
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:51
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Unless they gave us a real ending after seeing if we pass the Indoctination test.Lee80alabama wrote...
Horrible Train wreck. Indoc. theory means the ending isn't an ending at all. Why would that make anyone happy? We'd be back at square one not knowing what really happened to all the characters we care about? How could that be a good thing? I don't know why that theory is so popular. I just don't get it. That's like hoping to get toe fungus.
But it's all academic, anyway - they're going to stick to their guns on this ending as the "reality" of their franchise.
They've overtly stated that we're just getting elaboration on the already-present ending, without the possibility of a new ending.slyguy200 wrote...
IT would not be an ending to the game, just an extension of it that leads to the real ending
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Posté 08 mai 2012 - 05:53
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Like someone said ME3 is the fight against Cerberus, and you have to prepare you army.
ME4 or ME 3 "put something here" would be the real battle against the Reapers, and you can takedown Harbinger in a fuc..... huge and epic fight. No space kids, real endings.
That would be the best thing to do, and the hell with the trilogy, if Shepards story really needs 4 games we make 4 games, period.
ME4 or ME 3 "put something here" would be the real battle against the Reapers, and you can takedown Harbinger in a fuc..... huge and epic fight. No space kids, real endings.
That would be the best thing to do, and the hell with the trilogy, if Shepards story really needs 4 games we make 4 games, period.
